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Do you guys think that some people knew something was going to happen?


The day Dale died, doesn't anyone think that..they knew something was going to happen. The day before, Dale was hanging with some friends in his trailor. Dale said something and everyone laughed..and Dale was like.."Yep, thats if i make it that far." Everyone just laughed..they didn't mean anything by it..but I just find this rather ironic and I want to know if you guys think that...Something told Dale and Teresa that...something would happen that day. I'm not saying this in a bad way, I just want to know if anyone found this ironic.

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i think childers motorsports had a plan for its drivers to have the 4 of them finish top 5 that day i think thats what dale was refering to pre race and the day before.

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In my case I think Dale planned on killing himself thats just my theory...not that its true. Remember how we was always wanting to win Daytona every year, well he wasnt winning that year, so ironically i think he killed himself. Because if you look at the footage of the wreck nobody tapped him on the back of the car nor in front, He just turned right into the wall. Thats just my theory!

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Dale was tapped by Sterling Marlin. It even showed that! I don't think he would kill himself just because he wasn't winning! If it was up to him, he would probably want to stay alive so he could race more! Anyways...this was an awesome movie! I loved it!

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IT WAS A FLUKE ACCIDENT - STERLIN BUMPED HIM AND THE SEATBELT BROKE .. IF YA WATCHED TONY STEWRTS WRECK ( I CALL IT A BARRAL ROLL ) OVER 2 CARS 45 LAPS B4 DALE CRASHED IT WAS A MUCH WORSE WRECK.. DALE ALWAYS KNEW THE RISKS OF DEATH IN A CUP CAR OR ANY CAR FOR THAT MATTER.. DALES BEST FRIEND NEIL BONNET AND HIM ALWAYS LAUGHED BOUT NOT GOING TO EACH OTHERS FUNERALS.. THE ONLY THING TO COME OUT OF ALL DEATHS ON THE TRACK IS THAT SAFTEY UPGRADES ARE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY...

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ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! OH MY GOD ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! you have got to be kidding me
dale got tapped my steling marlin and went into the wall...DALE WOULDNT WANT TO KILL HIMSELF!!!i cant believe you think that..he wasnt suicidal...he didnt kill himself...cuz he didnt no he was gonna die cuz his seatbelt broke...wow...i cant believe u think that..thats the stupidest theory ive ever seen.

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Dale didnt kill himeself your a moron. marlin got him loose and put him up in to the wall. dale did it 1000 time to other drivers. he was blocking for JR and waltrip cause if he didnt marlin would have won because he had a faster car. marlin even said this himself. oh and dale didnt die from a broken seat belt he died just like adam petty (sad day), kenny irwin , and tony roper. they all died of basal skull fractures.if he was wearing a head and neck restraint like the hans device even with the belt breaking earnheardt could have lived. lets just hope weve lost enough of legends and future legends to learn that safty should always come first and not whats comfortable.

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Everyone knows Dale didn't kill himself, at least I hope they know that. All that happened was that the air was taken off his spoiler while trying to fend off a hard charging Sterling Marlin. There was no hit in the rear from Sterling(I even have a tape of the race which shows no contact between the two). In trying to save the car he overcorrected and we all know the unfortunate and tragic outcome.

Sadly it took the death of one of the sports biggest legends to bring about change. Had NASCAR not hesitated after losing Adam Petty(left us way too soon) Kenny Irwin, Tony Roper and Dale Earnhardt "may" still have been around with us. Now racing is not the safest of sports, and it will never be 100% safe. Little things like the HANS device make the big differences in safety.

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when i said "get him loose" i was implying he took the air off him and thats what put him in the wall. i never said marlin hit him.

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You guys are all wrong.

The only person who took the air off of Earnhardt's spoiler would be Rusty Wallace, who came flying in tucked behind Earnhardt. Earnhardt got loose, tried to correct, couldn't, and we all know what happened.

It's the last lap of the Daytona 500. It's every man for himself. No one was at fault. I can't believe people are still blaming Sterling Marlin for the wreck.

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that was tasteless............ tastless but funny!

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hey that is so stupid to think that dale earnhardt killed himself i swear do u even weatch racing at all. i mean he got loose. it wasnt even sterling or dales fault it is something that happens all the time in nascar its just so that this time it killed somebody. but ever since then they have made nascar alot more safe. nobody has died in nextel yet. thank u god!!!!!!!!!!!!

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First of all i was there in the stands in turn 4 the day he died. I got good pictures of the enitre incident. Rusty didn't get him loose. Marlin got him loose and slightly tapped him in the left rear. Sh!t happens. The most depressing thing about his Dale's death was that it happened on my dad's B-day.
Dale was both mine and my dad's hero. Anyone here witness the death of their hero? One more thing in the Daytona 500 Earnhardt said he would wreck his own mother to win that race. Most people would probably do the same.

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Neil Bonnett died the same way and at the same turn at Daytona that Earnhardt did. Ernie Irvan almost lost his life by cutting a right-front tire at Michigan. Earnhardt just unfortunately caught the apron which upset the car after either blocking Marlin or being tapped by him. If you watch the race over, you'll see a couple of very close calls between Marlin and Earnhardt.

Earnhardt was definately blocking. Due to the restrictor plates and the power of the draft, the pack of cars would be a lot closer. Instead, there was a huge gap between second and third. It's incredible that a single driver could hold up this much traffic without losing position. It's just a shame that he wasn't able to celebrate with his son and his good friend Michael Waltrip in victory lane.

"The winner isn't the one with the fastest car. It's the one who refuses to lose."

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they say that you know when you are going to die like you can feel it or sense it. i don't know if i believe that but they say dale knew he was going to die before he got in the car. it was a sad day and racing is not the same without dale.

MasterJedi

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damn straight. these rookies are alll over the place these days!

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yeah i thought i would like dale jr. but he has not shown any skills. dale pushed him but he will never be half as good as his father. on top of that my brother in law was sent to the race last weekend to display a heilacoper for the army and when he got back he told me every driver was the nicest person ever but he could not stand dale jr because he was a gaint dick head. he would not talk to the boys or even look at them so that right there also made me dislike the man. dale was just a great man all around and i do not know if i will ever be able to watch another race with what they are putting on the track today.

MasterJedi
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From what I can tell he was trying to throw the block over the whole field, so his cars could win, he got tapped, and when he jerked the wheel to the right to try to save it, he hit the apron and shot into the wall. If he had let it spin, she would have went into the infield, and would have been fine. I think the only mystery surrounding his death is the seatbelt controversy. My opinion is that he wasn't using manufacturer specs on his belts, which caused them to rip. So why would Nascar let Bill Simpson take all the heat? Because, Earnhardt being a 7-time Champ, and being Nascar's biggest star had the clout to do what he wanted. Nascar didn't make him follow proper safety guidelines, which means they were negligent. I know Andy Petree (Dale's crew chief in 93,94 and 95) said Dale mounted his seatbelts different to make them more comfortable. They probably don't want anyone to know that. I had heard before that Earnhardt always used what was comfortable, not necessarilly the safest. They concluded that he would have died whether the belt had ripped or not, which is also a load of crap. I've seen other drivers hit like that (watch Ken Schrader's practice crash from the '97 or '98 Daytona race) and walk away. The only variable is the seatbelt ripping. When his belt ripped his face hit the steering wheel. I have seen the inside of the car. His head bent the steering wheel. Now I don't blame Nascar, I just think they've been less than honest. I think if a driver chooses not to use the safest stuff, that's his mistake. Anyway, I sure do miss Earnhardt. Nascar hasn't been the same. And the movie was good, but they left a lot out. They should've done a miniseries.

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I heard that no matter what Dale used for safety nothing could've saved him. Hitting a wall at 180mph is a very hard hit. They said the HANS device would've saved him because then his head wouldn't have shot forward.But,even if he used the HANS device his head would of stayed in place, but his brain would've went forward and hit his skull....causing swelling. There still would've been internal injuries. Think of it this way: no matter how good you are strapped into the car, nothing is keeping your organs from moving....at least not in the type of collison. I don't think Dale done anything wrong in his choices concerning safety. And he DEFINATELY didn't wreck on purpose. He said he was gonna race as long as he possibly could.

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redneckgal_8908
it was safety issues for what we know. plenty of drivers have hit at 180mph and walked away. there has been worse wrecks then his. His is a freak accident. If he had the Hans device on it may have saved his life. But you know what, its only an "if". I am not trying to be a jerk but being an amid nascar fan and from someone who races dirt bikes and grew up in car racing, there has been worse wrecks. Take a look at the link below. The King Richard Petty flips the hell out of his car the proceeds to get t-boned and he lived through it. Also Jr has hit the wall head on since Sr's death. not at 180mph but he has hit a 150mph. Again not to be a jerk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsVOk7TRTfo

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Kwo, I agree with you 100%. NASCAR is hiding something and it was a shame for them to blame Simpson for Dale's death.

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i dont know if this was posted before cause i didnt read all the posts but ironicly there was a huge crash before the one on the last lap that had aa large amount of cars involved and one of the anouncers said that nobody was hurt because the cars are so safe

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Actually in the months and years following his death, NASCAR and a separte investigating body found out that on the day of the race that Earnhardt had a considerable amount of heroin in his blood stream.

The medical examiner determined that he must have shot up just prior to the race and the high or the euphoria caused by the heroin may have prompted him to drive his car into the wall on the final lap of the race.

It was interesting to see someone post the idea that he may have committed suicide because he was seeing a psychosomatic therapist during weekdays because he was feeling extreme pressure to win from NASCAR. The people who run NASCAR were threatening to pull his license and stirp him of sponsorships if he didn't start winning more races.

In the end Earnhardt lost the biggest race, with heroin.

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this is ridiculous! save these dumb comments for youtube. you all seem to forget your mocking someones death, not cool. i dont care who it is, dale, sadam, hitler, jesus. you dont mock how someone dies.

unless of course your peeing through a fence and lightning strikes the fence, travels up the stream of urine, blowing up your penis and killing you as well. now thats an awful way to die and a way to die we all can laugh at.

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Rusty Wallace once said the night before Earnhardt died, they were hanging out and Earnhardt mentioned in about a year or two he'd quit driving. Plus, I don't know how reliable this source is but I heard after the big wreck a few laps earlier, Earnhardt took off his seat belt but didn't put it completely on. Don't hold me to that statement, BUT after he died, several drivers said Earnhardt didn't put his seat belt on properly.

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Thats a very legit theory. I've always felt that on the last lap, Dale unbuckled himself, because thats the kinda thing he would have done.

I beleive the cut belt was a result of somebody from the safty crew not wanting NASCAR, or Dale to look bad.

Of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

If someone asks if you are a god, you say, "yes!"

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Dale wouldn't have killed himself on purpose, how silly. He was self admitted in a pre race interview that he was at the time "the happiest he ever was" with life at that point, he wouldn't be so silly to kill himself on a high like that.

He had a crappy belt system in his car plus an older helmet than everyone else. If Childress would have updated he might not would have died, probably been hurt though. 2001 could have been a good year for him, we will never know though.

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