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Why do the men in this movie forgive these SLUTS?

posted 18 years ago by booklady1-1
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I personally thought it was really stupid that Sarah had sex with a guy she barely knew when she was engaged to someone else, and her boyfriend actually FORGAVE her almost right away. It's also really gross that about an hour before she slept with him she thought he might be her FATHER--maybe she "learned" that he wasn't but for me just the fact that I had ever thought that would turn me off. And her dad's story about how he knew that her mother had slept with another man the week before their wedding and he didn't care because he was just happy that she had come back to him--I was like, WTF?! You don't care that the woman you're marrying is a s1ut, you're just glad to have her even if she cheated on you?

If I were engaged to a guy and he fooled around with another girl, I would dump him right away. The fact that he would do that would show that he had no respect for me and no value for our relationship. When Sarah slept with Beau, she completely disregarded her relationship, just like her mother did to her father. I thought this was really stupid because in real life, I don't know many guys who have that little self-respect that they would allow themselves to be treated like that by a woman. Basically, these women were s1uts, and the men in their lives didn't care and married them anyway. So stupid.

[–] kelticman 18 years ago

sluts are women who sleep around ALOT.

jennifer plays a character that is really messed up about her relationships. also she was drunk. if i am sober i can keep it in my pants but if i drink...no. some women are the same.

i have met the woman i want to marry. i have been married. i don't think my love for my ex wife could have lasted an affair. but if the current one cheated on me ONCE, i could forgive.

bonk!

[–] abstract848 17 years ago

don't think the women in the film are sluts,
But i think it's Unrealistic that Jeff (Mark Ruffalo) would ask Sarah (Aniston) to marry him again at that ball just after seeing her making out with Beau (Kostner) considering how upset he was. Not sure if his love was that unconditional

[–] swayback80 17 years ago

Thank you!
This is soooo typical in these types of films-
common sense does not come into play.
In order to facilitate the "happy ending"-
Hollywood figures that we'll all buy this type of
garbage- no questions asked!
The father, the fiance, even her sister's new husband,
were all cut from the same cloth.
Weak, wimpering male characters, who were thoroughly
lacking the "balls" to stand up to these sluts!
The scary part is that there are plenty of posters who
can "understand" some of the actions that took place.
I actually feel sorry for such poor, pathetic creatures!

[–] mail-924 8 years ago

She not only slept with him drunk, but went on a trip with him and was his date at that event. That's what made it so sick... she basically swapped her husband out with a rich prince charming. That's slutty! but no more slutty than a guy cheating on his wife on his stag party or something.

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[–] pgFiSheYe 7 years ago

Aniston's character if you think about it she sucked his cock and swallowed his cum

[–] bullock607 17 years ago

in hollywood that happens but not in REAL-LIFE, she slept with the man that slept with her mother and grandmother - nasty

[–] MinnieBegosh 17 years ago

I agree! Not only do they cheat but they do it so extra cruelly! They take off without warning and make people worry about them. My heart broke when Mark Ruffalo's character showed up at the party where he saw Aniston and Costner kissing. She'd been ignoring his calls for days, and here she is in a formal gown at a party kissing some other man. If I'd been in his place I would have left her that night and never forgiven her.

[–] tgomez-1 17 years ago

" in real life, I don't know many guys who have that little self-respect that they would allow themselves to be treated like that by a woman."

but im sure you know several girls who allow men to cheat on them and keep coming back...i sure do.

[–] SpiffyAngel 17 years ago

when she slept with him, all i can think of was "eww.... a few hours ago she thought he was her FATHER... and he's so... OLD!" and the fact that he slept with her mom and grandma disturbed me too

I was actually surprised that in the end, Jen Aniston's fiance (sorry I forgot his name)STILL wanted to marry her... WTF?!?!?! she just CHEATED on him... ON THE SAME GUY WHO DID HER MOM AND GRANDA..... EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW thats just wrong

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[–] Director-21 17 years ago

And usually they are the ones who will always be cheated on as long as they are with that guy. I can't imagine a movie where the female lead boyfriend/finance goes off and cheats on her with some bimbo and the happy ending is that he comes back to her. The happy ending would be her kicking him to the curb and meeting a nice guy.

[–] charlotte_goldenblatt 17 years ago

Just caught this movie on satellite.

I also thought it was a bit unrealistic how all the men forgave these women so easily. First thing came to my mind was "what's so special about these chicks?"

Taking aside from the potential father aspect (gross), the whole cheating itself was already enough to dump her yet Mark Ruffalo's character kept giving her second chances and taking her back. Made him seem so desparate.

[–] cuttingedgenyc 17 years ago

Because it's a romantic comedy and it's a rule.

Also because sometimes people do forgive people who cheat on them, if they really love them and think they can work it out.

on a related note as I posted below. I would be curious to know if the people who think the women in this movie are "sluts" also disliked the Graduate. Which had basically the same plot.

if not, why not? Is it because that movie was from the man's perspective?

[–] goavs 12 years ago

They should make a sequel called "Rumor Had It..." where Mark Ruffalo just cheats on Aniston for an hour and a half and then throws it in her face at the end :D

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[–] one189teen50five 12 years ago

It's just a movie.

[–] ricardo78 10 years ago

it is NEVER just a movie. it is the most fcked up kind of feminist propaganda and in general called "cultural hegemony"

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[–] RRozsa 12 years ago

If I recall "The Graduate" correctly, Benjamin had already been having an affair with the older married woman (which I agree, is immoral) BEFORE he fell in love with her daughter, and the affair had ended before he became engaged to the daughter. Sarah cheated with the older guy after she was already engaged. I don't see how you can say the plots (and moralities of the characters) are the same.

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[–] NettaS 17 years ago

I think Jeff was a little bit stupid: he ignored all the signs and saw what he wanted to see. I don't call that love.

In theory, I could forgive once. But I think you must be blind to end up in a situation like that in the first place. Love is not blind, infatuation usually is.

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[–] beethoven76 17 years ago

They didn't day much about his family. Maybe they are in to some weird stuff and she'll get what's coming to her.

[–] numb505 17 years ago

Okay just a movie get over it... plus who could pass on fooling around with Kevin????

[–] glocktwentyseven 17 years ago

LOL, but how would you feel if Susan Sarandon slept with your dad, your husband, and then your son?

would you really accept "Who could pass up fooling around with Susan?" as your son's reason?

[–] mizwyld 17 years ago

<i>LOL, but how would you feel if Susan Sarandon slept with your dad, your husband, and then your son?

would you really accept "Who could pass up fooling around with Susan?" as your son's reason? </i>

Oh but therein lies the double standard. If it were men that did it no one would be calling them "sluts" and yes,they'd be trading off high fives for it.

I kinda felt with the way the movie ended, they did it for the happy hollywood ending,but most people probably knew in the long run the relationship wouldn't last anyway.

[–] alancontact 17 years ago

I admire some of you posters who have such personal scruples that you could walk away from someone you love just to save your ego. There were no sluts in this movie. A slut is someone who sleeps around for the enjoyment of sex and with little regard to how it affects them. They are people who are hedonistic and just don't care about the consequences. The women in this movie were confused and scared of commitment... not sluts. In the case of Mrs Robinson, she was just terribly bored and wanted to spice up her life, so maybe she deserved the worse. Anyway...

As a man, I can recognize the difference between a slut and a woman that isn't commited or is having a crisis. If you could easily walk away from someone that you love when they are down, then you don't really love that person. I'm not advocating foregiveness of someone who maliciously and intentionally hurts another person, but you really have to be in the shoes of the man or woman in order to know what you would do. It's easy to sit there watching a movie munching on popcorn and say the characters should do this or that, but unless it's you, you'll never know for sure. Have you ever loved someone so much that losing them for any reason is more painful than accepting the betrayal? You know on an intellectual level that you should walk away and not look back... but if you truly love them, it is much, much more difficult. Especially if you think they truly are sorry and you believe that it won't happen again! It's easy to say "how do they put up with that crap!!" then one day it happens to you and suddenly you realize it's not so easy.

Finally, the men in this movie were not stupid and they did care about the women. What's wrong with loving someone and forgiving them? Are you all that shallow that you couldn't see this in the characters?

[–] disdained_heart 17 years ago

All your points are valid ... I must say that I don't know many men like you.

However, regardless if someone who sleeps with another person other than her(/his) spouse(/significant other) can be termed a slut or not, the fact of the matter is that that person has cheated and betrayed the trust they had.

Let's just say that some 17 yr old saw this movie, or any other movies like it, they would assume that it is ok to have doubts and sleep with other people and cheat on them because in the end they will be forgiven. What kind of a moral is that? I agree, it's not fair to blame movies for teaching values or lack thereof, but let's face it ... today's society is taught by television and the internet and parents are not as in tune with their kids as they think they are.

A lot of people look up to girls like Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan ... can you honestly tell me that these can be termed "role models"? Hell no. Same thing with the premise of this movie, to me it says: find someone who loves you, but don't fully commit, be afraid, but if you happen to find someone whom you find somewhat attractive, sleep with him and maybe you'll figure it out. Instead of breaking up with the guys and figuring things out a rational way and not hurting him or yourself. No ... be an idiot and hurt people ... don't mind other people's feelings.

There is nothing wrong with loving someone ... there is nothing wrong with forgiving them ... it just can't be played around with. There is a difference between forgiving and being stepped on ... how much can a person take before he breaks? Who can garantuee that it will not haunt him for the rest of his life? who can garantuee that she won't do it again? she did it once ... she may not stop there. How many times does she need to do it again for the other person to finally put an end to it. Or will she be forgiven all the time? Why does it make a difference if she does it 1 time or 3 times? The higher the number the more just cause for it or something?

it is just ... painful @>-;-

[–] fairygrammarmother 17 years ago

Actually, I feel rather offended by one of your comments. Not all 17 year olds look up Paris and Lindsey, in fact, most of my school lives to make fun of those two and many others. I watched this, and I ended up really feeling for Mark Ruffalo's character, honestly, I was angry at Jenn Aniston's character (I really want to call her Rachel for some reason...*wink* sorry, ADD) because she did disregard him altogether, but I understood her feelings. She wanted an adventure, she wanted passion, she wanted everything she saw in the movies. But she felt like she didn't have it with Ruffalo's character...he was sweet, charming, smart, and the perfect husband and father. Maybe those things made her happy, but she needed a fling. And I'm not endorsing it! In fact, I'm the type of girl that only likes serious relationships, so yeah, that's my character. So honestly, we don't assume that it is okay to just "cheat" and neither does this film affect it in any way, in fact, it endorses quite the opposite. But that's just my opinion. :D

Sorry, I use actor's names instead of the characters, bad habit.

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[–] disdained_heart 17 years ago

A_Killer_Queen;

nothing personal, 17 was just a number; could've been higher, could've been lower. Yes, there are some people that are mature for their age, I don't deny it ... but there are also those who seem to never get there no matter how old they get.

Maybe she did 'need' a fling ... maybe then she would discover her 'true' feelings ... but it is still wrong to do it when you end up hurting someone, other than yourself. And that is the problem ... a trite formula in movies that justifies cheating ... as long as it's for the 'right reasons'. Meaning, yeah ... it's ok if they are confused and unhappy and need a fling ... because they can say they're sorry and they will be taken back as if nothing ever happened. Forget being faithful, forget having respect for the person you are with ... no need for integrity, because everything will be O-K.

it is just ... painful @>-;-

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[–] TheBad2012 12 years ago

You're a weak individual if you would forgave Jennifer Aniston's character at the end.