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'Non-partisan' about the murder of 3,000+?


Absurd. Almost as absurd as dramatizing this event.

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This is not absurd it's a great portrait of the people who created the acts of 9/11, nothing more.

"Everybody be cool... you be cool" George Clooney as Seth Gecko in From Dusk Till Dawn

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Who said anything about ignoring 9/11? Do you think a sloppy HBO reenactment of it equals progress? Try politics.

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Pardon my lack of research. I know who Antonia Bird is, and respect some of her other work, and I was referring to the fact that HBO was the only network to release it stateside. As to whether this movie was 'sloppy,' 'brilliant,' absolute *beep* or a 'masterpiece,' I'm not going to argue with you on taste.

I agree with you that cinema should reflect the world we actually live in. I'm not a fan of fantasies. My problem was with the touting of this movie as 'non-partisan,' because it was not.

I knew someone would bring up the Holocaust sooner or later. Would you like to see a movie about the Holocaust two years after it ended so that you could probe the troubled and human minds of those who carried out the killing so automatically? Or would you like to water the massacre down to a quasi-Freudian psychodrama of misunderstood but well-intentioned religious extremists?

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Fair enough. I was comfortably ensconced in Brooklyn when it happened. But no one, regardless of their proxmity, should forget. I think you and I simply disagree on how it should be remembered.

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I caught this movie one night, unannounced and unpromoted by HBO. It's hard not to get emotional about these events. Some people feel that any attempt to show such publicly demonized people-- be they the 911 hi-jackers or Adolph Hitler-- as mere humans is inherently wrong, because it might make us understand and maybe even sympathize with them. But such an attitude is no help to us in trying to better understand these terrible events and to better anticipate and maybe avoid the next one. We can't just allow ourselves to simply think these things are done by inhuman monsters and let it go at that. That notion only fools us into thinking that such people are boogey men from some nightmare world and not our neighbors next door and that is a dangerous fantasy. I felt no sympathy for these killers while watching this well-made movie. But I did feel I gained some insight into how this was possible and only increased my contempt for any philosophy or belief system that could so easily twist, bend and exploit the minds of these disturbed men for its evil purposes.

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i hope your being sarcastic i quote rudi gullani on hbo special 911
"you need to relive the events of that day, that way you can think of ways to not let it happen again"

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