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ps3 2x as powerful as xbox 360?


I've read in several places saying the ps3 is twice as powerful than the new xbox. Is that really true or is that a lie?

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Its true. The PS3 has a better graphics processor than X-box 360 does. See to me the new games on 360 look just a tad better than what we've already seen on X-box (thats not neccessarily a bad thing). But thats just me.

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The PS3 does have a better processor than the 360.

"to me the new games on 360 look just a tad better than what we've already seen on X-box (thats not neccessarily a bad thing). But thats just me."

The reason for this is because at the time of E3, the developers were only issued alpha kits, which only represent 25-30% of the 360's full power. The PS3 "demos" aren't even in-game. They are videos done to specifications, and represent what the games may look like, but it isn't a garauntee. Other than a game titled I-8 (Which looks amazing by the way) the PS3 hasn't released any real in-game footage unlike the 360.


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Fuuck ps3 or xbox I am buying the new nintendo!

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Not even close, when you are dealing with multicore processors of these consoles throw the numbers out the window, they are meaningless.

The first thing to not is that they are what is called in-order processors rather than the out of order processors you find in pc's, so you can half there performance figures to get a better comparison with to of the range pc's. By the time of there release these processors are only likely to be maybe twice as powerfull as your average pc.

Don't be confused by the face that it has 3 or 8 cores that makes little differnce its more about the the management of these cores on the chip, and to that end the ps3 is only slightly better than the 360.

The gpu chips are roughly equal but the 360 has seperate anti aliasing so it runs better at high res, they are likely to reamian pretty equal to the end.

Don't just take my word for it many games designer including in particular id's lead programmer have said similar comments.

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X-box 360 is just an x-box painted white.

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Interesting point of view... :)

Just to put another angle on this. Currently, the PS3 has twice (yup, it's confirmed) the processing power of the Xbox360. I say currently, because it all depends on HOW the architecture of the boards rate. So far I've seen a full res verson of the KZ2 promo, which I have been assured is IN-GAME graphics! That is just IMMENSE!

Now, with the XBOX360, the graphics on certain 'in-game' previews are indeed outstanding, but let's be honest; would a slightly smoother line mean spending an extra 140 quid more than an XBOX360? Not really.

THis battle is going to be down to Games. End of.. It doesn't matter how good a machine each of the three are (I've now included the Bimbembo - thank GOD they've gone away form the Fisher-Price look!!), it's down to out and out quality of games!

Halo broke the back of the Microsoft duck, and Splitters did the same for the PS2. One game from each will win players votes, and then they will be hooked on that console :)

Just another view point :)

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I agree that it will come down to games, Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 but the PS2 still outsold it becuse there were alot more quality games for the PS2 than there were for the xbox, and if Killzone 2 looks even close to what they showed in the supposedly pre-rendered trailer, microsoft will have a problem
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ill probaly end up gettin the Xbox 360. ive hadtoo many problems with my Playstation and PS2

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Before the anouncement of these new consoles I had always liked the x box a little more (although ps2 had more games)

however so far it looks (to me) as though the ps3 is going to be better. The games I have seen for the ps3 look more inovative than the xbox360

but what about the price?
i heard that the ps3 is going to cost like 900 dollars (i'm canadian so maybe thats canadian dollars. Does anyone actually know what the prices are like for each console?

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Dude i Work for Gamestop and right they have finish the Ps3 and if it would come out this dicember it would cost about $1.000.00 US Dollars right know what they r doing is making the price go down like around the $500.00 Us Dollars but trust me is going to be worht it not like the xbox 360 i will probali get it only when halo comes out. but come on the Nintendos Revolution is going to be really good, u r going to be albe to play all the game that nintendo has made for his console for free.excep the nes titles.

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I work at EB, and the sony representative came in recently.

Rumor has it that they are cutting the Blue Ray (For those not in the know, Blue Ray is a format of disk that is going to be used for High Definition Movies) out of the PS3 to cut the cost down. A low end Blue Ray player costs around $1,200 right now and I don't think a lot of people would pay $1,000+ for a PS3. They have also been consistantly cutting out minor things from the prototype they announced at E3. Even after the cuts in the promised technology the system is probably going to cost $500 at launch. From what I understand Sony is not going to give you anything more than a wireless controller and the wires to hook it up with the system. I also have heard that they do not plan on having the hard drive available immediately either, so those buying the system will HAVE to buy a $40 memory card with it, and then pay another $100 later for the hard drive. They are doing the same thing they do every time. Making you buy extra accessories that could have easily been built into the system, or making you buy one accessory because the one you really want isn't going to be available for a convenient amount of time (making you double dip).

The XBOX 360 is coming out in two weeks, and the $400 Premium Bundle comes with an XBOX 360, 20G Hard Drive, Headset, DVD Remote, Wireless controller, Standard AV cables, HD Component Cables. $300 system, with $240 worth of accessories for $400.

Regaurdless of what they take out (unless they dump the CELL processor) Sony will still have a more powerful system. But it will probably look like a Next Gen difference between PS2 and XBOX (maybe a little closer...the 360 can do some crazy stuff).

Personally, I'm going to eventually get both. I need my Halo on the XBOX, and GTA 4 and MGS 4 on the PS3. But, given Sony's track record for horrible customer service, poorly built defective systems and obvious attempts at squeezing every last penny out of their customers to line their own pockets with everything they do, I'm more excited about giving Microsoft my paycheck.

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I dont understand why people complain about PS2s, I bought mine in 2001, and I never had a single problem out of it(except for replacing a controller once), and it still runs fine today. I dont know, maybe I have just been real lucky.

I bought an Xbox last year, and it was alright but besides Forza and Doom3 ,there was really no "GREAT" games for it, so I sold it and bought 4 PS2 games.

Killzone never got the cridit it deserved, it was a true masterpeice. One of the best games of all time in my opinion, way better than that stupid Halo game. Microsoft will be crushed by Sony in sales if they do not come up with a game that can counter KillzonePS3, becuse they have 0 good games for the 360 right now.


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You were very lucky with your Playstation. Most people who bought it at launch have replaced theirs at least once.

As for good games...that really depends on what you like. Killzone is an awesome game. I think it's on par with Halo (the first one anywho...the second one as was a disapointment in the single player department). But XBOX does have some quality software out there. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is probably my favorite game ever, the second one was great too. Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive 3, Fable, the Mech Assault series, Forza (Considered to be much better than Gran Turismo 4), any games made by Ubi Soft (Rainbow 6, Splinter Cell, Brothers in Arms) are much better on the XBOX because completely different development team worked on the games for the seperate consoles and the PS2 versions were not so good. There's more, but again it's all about personal tastes.

As for XBOX 360. Microsoft has gained the support of japanese game companies. Capcom has decided to put Resident Evil 5 on the 360 as well as the PS3. Square is making Final Fantasy games in the future on the 360 starting with Final Fantasy XI, with more to follow. Elder Scrolls IV is set for next year, Perfect Dark 0 (a first person shooter made by the same team that made the original Golden Eye and Perfect Dark), Dead or Alive 4, Project Gotham 3, Amped 3.

Don't count Microsoft out on the software department. Their main focus seems to be putting out quality games. And as I said before...Sony's main focus seems to be getting you to spend more money.

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I dont understand why people complain about PS2s, I bought mine in 2001, and I never had a single problem out of it(except for replacing a controller once), and it still runs fine today. I dont know, maybe I have just been real lucky.

I bought an Xbox last year, and it was alright but besides Forza and Doom3 ,there was really no "GREAT" games for it, so I sold it and bought 4 PS2 games.

Killzone never got the cridit it deserved, it was a true masterpeice. One of the best games of all time in my opinion, way better than that stupid Halo game. Microsoft will be crushed by Sony in sales if they do not come up with a game that can counter KillzonePS3, becuse they have 0 good games for the 360 right now.
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Reasons why i wont buy ps3

I went through 4 ps2 and one ps1.

ps3 system crashed, at the Tokyo Game Show.

At the e-3, they showed the power of the blu-ray disk, there wasnt a blu-ray disk drive in the game.

they will only send 400,000 copys of the system to North America and no more shipments till past Christmas

No good launch titles in my opinion. Assasins creed looks amazing, but its coming out for pc and xbox 360 also.

I already have a 360, i havent had a single problem with it. I had an xbox for 2 years, and didnt have a problem with that either. I could get the ps3 for 250 dollars (lucky me, my friends, cousin is the owner at a local best buy)

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I've had my PS2 for 4 years also. Not one problem. Except I had to replace a controller which I wore out doing non stop cheats on GTA.

Give the PS3 A BLOODY BREAK!

The only reason why you guys are having a go at it is because the 360 has been out for a few months, slightly raised the graphics above the XBOX, and the PS3 has nothing to prove. When it comes out, which it already has, it will blow the "competition" away. Your complaining about a few things like cords and crap. But have you spoken about the games and graphics. NUH! There the important things.

So chill out. AND HAVE A GO OF THE FRICKIN PS3 before you bag it.

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Jm1985 Killzone never got the cridit it deserved, it was a true masterpeice. One of the best games of all time in my opinion, way better than that stupid Halo game. Microsoft will be crushed by Sony in sales if they do not come up with a game that can counter KillzonePS3, becuse they have 0 good games for the 360 right now.
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what i admit kill zone was fun but halo is way better it looks beeter and any way at least halos got a jump button,and any way have you actually played black which is the best looking shotter on ps2 and is beeter than killzone
although killzone is agood game but it does get a little bit repetitive however killzone 2 looks amazing but what about halo three huh and gears of war , f.e.ar,saints row and battle for middle earth

no refunds!!!!

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Ever notice how the only ones who are hating on the PS3 are the ones who couldn't get one? They're also the same ones who are saying they wouldnt get it if they saw it right in front of them....yeah right, they were probably one of those who actually waited in line for 3 days in the rain and didn't get it so now they're bitching. Any gamer in their right mind would buy the PS3 without hesitation if it were actually available right in front of them. Ever notice how the folks who own both the 360 and PS3 all agree that the PS3 is the more powerful system and the one to definately watch out for?

Anyways, its too early to even compare systems true capabilities right now, especially since the PS3 has only been out for only a little over a month. We all can talk all day about system specs and why apples are better than oranges, but it all comes down to the games and what the game developers can do to exploit the true power of each of the system. We already saw the true power of the 360 with Gears of War, and it took them over a year to finely polish it to look so freakin good. Sony is going to be pushing Killzone 2 as a response to Gears, but they've been really hush-hush about it. Statements have been made that the video clip we saw 2 years ago will either match have been exceeded by the PS3 real time gameplay. If they don't live up to their former statement, then Sony would of dug the grave for the PS3. The real battle will be seen next year, not right now.

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The problem is the stupid fanboys out there who blindly believe there system is the best, no matter what. I prefer Playstation,but thats me, someone else may prefer the Xbox,but thats just them, its just wich ever one suites you,wich one is the best is really a matter of opinion rather than fact.just like wich car is the best(Corvette,just my opinion), wich soft drink is the best(Mountain Dew,just my opinion),wich computer is the best(Compaq,just my opinion),wich TV is the best or wich cellular company is the best(Verizon,but thats just my opinion)

I got the 360 has a birthday present, I am going to buy the PS3 has soon has my taxes come back,and I might buy the new nentendo later on,then there wont be a game that I cant play



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Lollerskates, the 360 will produce better looking games.

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PS3 sucks, their HD hookups wont work, it over heats, there is only one good game, IT COSTS 600$, the xbox 360 can play at 1080p with a 30$ upgrade, much better library of games and alot of them got good reveiws. on the other side the nintendo wii is horrid graphics wise but there is more to a game than just the graphics, all of the game released have a good reveiw, the legend of zelda won game of the year, it revolutionizes(sp?)the way you play games and more people own a wii than ps3's and xbox 360's combined. the way i see it the PS3 is also a copycat, it took the motion sensitivity from the wii and did it horribly(wii has rmble and a little speaker in it and PS3 has no rumble), the plastation button...is the same as an xbox button, removable hard drive same as 360, the list can go on forever.

"freakin sweet!"

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the xbox 360 still curently can only make games that are limited to the dvd capacity discs. ps3 has the new format built in. no doubt 360 will bring out a hddvd attatchment (which will probably cost £100 more, making it more expensive than the ps3) but all in all sony has always been honest about their pricing and what they are giving you. i have just heard that microsoft have got a hddvd attatchment but it will only play the films not the games. i think microsoft are going to have a problem there.

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ummmmmmmmmmmmm...xbox 360 can play games in 1080p

"freakin sweet!"

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to reply Jm1985 microsoft wont have a problem they have Gears Of war, Halo(I,II,III), Lost planet and some more Killzone wont cause as much as a problem its going to transfer to multi platform 6 months after realese i know i have a cousin that wors for microsoft Console division

MAIN CHARACTERS HAVE TO DIE

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Sorry theonewhoneedsall you're mistaken. Killzone 2 is being developed exclusively for PS3. It takes advantage of the SPUs so has to be programmed in different way to an Xbox title. It's also being developed by Guerrilla Games who are solely owned by Sony and clearly Sony will want to keep it a PS3 exclusive to promote the sales of more consoles.

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the PS3 is such a wise investment. The graphic power of an Xbox 360, the motion sensoring of a Nintendo Wii and a Blu Ray player all in one shinny black case. I still dont get why people complain about it. $600 is cheap for what they are offering.

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And what do you think of your stupid post now? MORON

Best looking console game ever, and one of the best looking games EVER, and NOT, and never will be, on 360.

Stick that up your cousin's *beep* ass

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wow two years after my original post you call me a moron? why? you must be real pathetic. i mean seriously how am i a moron after Unofficial news i got from my cousin??? wow your such an ass hole

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ok i have both systems and really there isnt much of a difference in the graphics so really buy it for the games you like not for wat otherssay but they do have there advantages like ps3 has a blu ray player but 360 has better online play so pick which one you want not what other say you should get.

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