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'She deviated'

posted 17 years ago by HORRORFAN-13
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Is that supposed to be bad? What does it mean and why was it such a big deal, she almost won because of it.

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[–] anya_angie 17 years ago

Not really. It means that she changed her program moves. Skaters CAN do that and they are allowed to do whatever they are comfortable with in the free skate or short program as long as it complies with a set of rules.

Short Program Requirements for Ladies: Time: 2:50 max, 2:40 min

These elements can be done in any order.

1 Jump Combination: Triple-triple, triple-double, or double-triple; I think double-double is also acceptable but I don't know any skater that does that.
1 Layback spin
1 Spiral sequence
1 Footwork sequence
1 Flying spin (usually you see a flying camel)
1 Combination spin
1 Double Axel
1 Jump preceeded by steps: Most skaters do triple Lutz or triple flip.

Whatever jumps they do they cannot be repeated. If, for example, you do a triple Lutz-triple loop combination for the first element lised, you can't repeat either of these jumps for the jump from steps.

Long Program Requirements: Time: 4:10 max, 3:50 min

3 jump combinations AT MOST but 1 at least. Only one of these can have 3 or more jumps in it though.
1 footwork sequence
1 spiral sequence
1 Double Axel
1 solo of every triple. Triple Axels are not required but skaters can do them if they wish. Mao Asada has a breathtaking one.
4 spins: 1 flying spin, 1 layback spin, and 1 combination spin, the other spin can be whatever the skater wants

A note on jumps: You can not repeat a jump unless it is in combination and then you can only repeat 2 different kinds of jumps twice.

I think that's it, that's basically a blueprint of what can be done in competition.

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[–] The_Only_Real_Thalia 17 years ago

.....Someone did their research. In essence she wants her to stick to what she's comfortable with, but in the end she was wrong.

[–] anya_angie 17 years ago

Not exactly what she's "comfortable" with, but what was planned and outlined for her in the choreography and element placement. Hey, most skating fans know this LOL.

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[–] silver_randomocity 16 years ago

It wasn't in her routine and it could've set off the music/choreography. Also, Tina was always telling Jen never to deviate from her program.

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[–] rosek102 11 years ago

You could try deviating to make up for some mistakes, but there's no guarantee it will be successful, which is why coaches advise against it. Casey got lucky, but she could have gotten herself into a bigger mess if she fell again.

[–] mloessel 10 years ago

I agree that deviating from her program was a HUGE risk but she did it and it paid off. I like that the writers wrote that in to show what a skater has the freedom to do. I've watched skating for over 30 years and I've seen the best make changes. Most of the time they did well.

[–] whitespirit26 10 years ago

Coaches can get super-pissed when their clients deviate, often adding something they were told they weren't ready for and just decided they could do anyway, risking points and even possible injury because they put their judgement over their coaches'. This also happened in "Ice Castles", "Make It or Break It" and "Mckenna Shoots for the Stars." Casey lucked out.

[–] nancy-mitrione 7 years ago

Exactly. I think it is somewhat of a "control" thing but no matter what sport, including football, coaches typically do not want their players to deviate from their instructions.