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If Jeremy had raped Gloria instead of the other way around...


And then she decided she liked it afterwards, and they got married, do you think it would piss people off?

R.I.P. Paul Walker

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You act there haven't been any rape jokes about woman. Have you ever watched Family Guy?

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do you think it would piss people off?


Yup, it would. And so did this scene; I had to remind myself that it was a movie and I didn't have to go after her with nunchakus.

BBL

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Such a hot and controversial topic this is, with or without double standards in question.

And more so than the likes of murder, other forms of violence, poverty and life's problems overall.

And yet it causes a hell of a lot more emotional responses and larger replies than those topics separately or combined, regardless of how well or not someone understands it or not.

Oh well.

(P.S. What IF, for instance, I or someone, while still being AGAINST IT mind you, was to treat it in discussions no differently than murder or other social issues, would they be THAT wrong in doing so?)

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We humans are sexually sensitive social creatures. Fact of life 101!

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Also, was that scene in the movie inspired in any way by the similar one in the notorious romantic sex comedy "40 Days and 40 Nights" (2002)?

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By the way, to all of us who had seen the movie, besides it being what it is, what is the difference including in the way this controversial albeit black comedy-oriented scene is portrayed here, in this movie, and in say the notorious "40 Days and 40 Nights" (2002) released 3 years before this one?

We know that the latter scene has caused a massive outrage with audiences etc and this one hasn't been as commonly spoken about.

Cheers.

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was the guy in 40 Days and 40 Nights" (2002) raped also? I havent seen the movie.

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Well... He was, SPOILER, sexually assaulted by Nicole at the end of the movie.

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oh interesting, I am sure he "erupted" everywhere after holding back for 40 days.

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Its possible, HEY, you read the plot synopsis of that film? Yes, he does indeed plan to abstain as part of own's lent and celibacy for 40 days and 40 nights without any type of sexual activity. The title by the way is apparently a biblical religious reference too. You might want to see the film first as I also don't want to spoil it (mind you, I don't think its a particularly good movie myself and about a 4 out of 10 is what I give it).

Funny how I didn't disagree with people's stances on that scene. But I kind of had to wonder if we should be that offended by it or just treat it as a black comedy type of trope used with a controversial twist but OK people are entitled to their opinions.

Interestingly also. That film is directed by Michael Lehmann, although I am not a huge fan of most of his works but I LOVE "Heathers" (1989). Its lead Josh Hartnett has been in some solid films too including "The Faculty" (1998) and the very good "Lucky Number Slevin" (2006) gangster crime thriller. But oh well...

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And that notorious scene even had the audacity to do a kitschy parody of "The English Patient" (1996) desert scene in it, besides how it also in many eyes rather inappropriately played the scene for "Naked Gun"-type of Leslie Nielsen-esque "laughs".

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You could maybe use either term, if you believe for instance, that the r word basically applies to ALL forms of sexual abuse and unwanted sexual contact, to describe that scene or you could say sexual assault if for one you believe the 'r' word more officially applies to, well, acts that involve forced penetration, which of course male perpetrators sadly are possible of doing.

Although its probably more a semantics argument than anything.

Is there much difference between say murder and homicide? Pedophilia and ephebophilia? Theft and robbery? Etc etc etc.

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