How did you like Sack Lodge? Me I've totally couldn't stand him and I thought he was WAAAYYY over the top and really obnoxious, I was so glad Jeremy decked out Sack at the end of the movie and that Claire ended up dumping that loser ass.
shareThat's the *beep* point.
... and that was the second time I got crabs.
They could've at least toned down his character and made him a little more likable
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Firstly, IMO, Bradley Cooper played a typical, rich, spoiled never-worked-a-day-in-his-life a$$hole perfectly. Guys like Sack wind up in Congress as senators. That's why politics is so effed up. Secondly, there's no way they could have made his character likeable at all because he had to be a bigger douchebag than Owen Wilson's character otherwise that sweet and gorgeous Claire would never have left him for Wilson's character. And let's face it, both characters were douchebags. Sack was an obnoxious, abusive, cheating son of a bitch and Wilson's character was a lying, cheating, sleazy womanizer. But he still had to get the girl in the end so the only way to make that plausible - other than to have Claire be a complete moron, which she wasn't - was to make Sack's character more reprehensible than Wilson's.
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@ CromeRose,
You hit the nail on the head, saying just what I was going to say. I really think Sack was on par morality wise with John Beckwith. His behavior towards John was exactly the way any man would behave towards a guy trying to steal his fiancee. Though, really, John Beckwith really never did anything wrong by sleeping with those girls from weddings. Two to tango. They participated because they were unintelligent enough to believe his out there stories.
>>I really think Sack was on par morality wise with John Beckwith. His behavior towards John was exactly the way any man would behave towards a guy trying to steal his fiancee. <<
Not really. Sack could have made his case with the fiance by professing and showing love Instead, Sack made his case by physically attacking and threatening the competition. Sack wasn't willing to change to get the girl. If you're vulnerable to competition, you need to fix the vulnerability, not the competition.
I heard an interview with Brad Cooper yesterday, where the interviewer said that during his critic screening of Hangover, someone had to remind him that Cooper was the guy from Crashers.
I think it's testimony to how good an actor Cooper is. He said this role was a composite of several obnoxious guys he knew in High School. Egocentric morons, that for some reason, women are attracted to.
I think it's fair game for a guy to beat the $hit out of dudes creeping on his woman.
Cooper's behavior in the Hangover was basically just as bad as his behavior in this film, Wedding Crashers. The Hangover shows how Sack would have behaved five years in the future, with a wife and a kid.
>>I think it's fair game for a guy to beat the $hit out of dudes creeping on his woman. <<
You think it's fair game to hire thugs to do it for him? And by the way, the 'creeping' was a two way street. What do you figure is fair for him and his thugs to do to her?
>>The Hangover shows how Sack would have behaved five years in the future, with a wife and a kid. <<
In what sense was Phil knowingly or willingly engaged in bad or agressive behavior in the Hangover? Forget knowing and willing...in what sense was he engaged in anything like that at all?
Sack may be an *beep* but it's understandable why he acted that way to John. This is the only romantic comedy I seen whose leads are anti-heroes.
share>>This is the only romantic comedy I seen whose leads are anti-heroes. <<
The Breakup was kind of the same way. And I thought that Dilemma was very much that way. It's interesting that Vaughn was in all three. I think the Dilemma did so poorly compared to the others, because the casting of Kevin James made no one suspect that it was a 'serious leaning' romantic comedy. His fans went in looking for 'I Pronounce You Chuck and Larry', and got 'The Breakup'. Fans of movies like 'The Breakup' turned away at the door, because of him as well.
Kevin James was an odd choice, and I think Vince Vaughn made it. Jon Favreau would have been perfect for the role. Ironic, since Vaughn and Favreau are best friends. Lord knows Favreau has his hands full with the Iron Man franchise, but it would have been worth doing whatever you had to do for his schedule.
James is kind of like Adam Sandler. He's capable of doing something comedic but also serious, but as a movie goer, you'd never bet on it. When Sandler did Spanglish, you knew the director, James Brooks, was not going to produce Slapstick. Still, Spanglish did not do well at the Box Office. Casting Sandler was part of it. Middle Age females (sweet spot for serious rom-com) do not go to Adam Sandler movies.
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Well, Sack and Jon did both have good jobs, so they seemed like responsible guys. I just feel like althought Sack was mean, he was more responsible. He would have provided for Claire, even though he cheated on her.
share>>He would have provided for Claire<<
Provided what, exactly? I assume you're referring to his money. Sack was not just "mean," he belittled her and was completely misogynistic. He made her feel like her emotions weren't valid and was incapable of dealing with his own. He treated her like an object, and he didn't even really love her. He just wanted to get married because it's what people are "supposed" to do, especially well-off men who want to hide their excessive promiscuity.
Jon provided for her emotionally. He valued her not only as an attractive woman, but also as a person.
Wife and a kid? The main four guys in The Hangover are unmarried and childless. Doug is engaged and Stu has a bitchy long-term girlfriend, while Phil and Adam are unattached.
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phil had a wife and at least one child they are seen at the wedding near the end of the movie....i think you need to rewatch the movie again.
shareFirstly, IMO, Bradley Cooper played a typical, rich, spoiled never-worked-a-day-in-his-life a$$hole perfectly. Guys like Sack wind up in Congress as senators. That's why politics is so effed up. Secondly, there's no way they could have made his character likeable at all because he had to be a bigger douchebag than Owen Wilson's character otherwise that sweet and gorgeous Claire would never have left him for Wilson's character. And let's face it, both characters were douchebags. Sack was an obnoxious, abusive, cheating son of a bitch and Wilson's character was a lying, cheating, sleazy womanizer. But he still had to get the girl in the end so the only way to make that plausible - other than to have Claire be a complete moron, which she wasn't - was to make Sack's character more reprehensible than Wilson's.
Oh I hated him. He was the perfect arrogant, cocky prick.
shareIt's amazing the clarity that comes with insomnia. I just now, at this very moment, was watching this on cable, (this is only a movie I've seen a few times) realized that was Bradley Cooper. I saw his eyes and was like "No...that's not..." yea. I guess I don't get out much or something.
shareI really liked Bradley Cooper in the Hangover movies but not so much in this movie
shareHe was way worse than the usual dick boyfriend you see in romantic comedies. Glenn Gulia for example was just your average stuck-up cheating douchebag. Sack was a Complete Monster.
shareI agree that Sack was a lot worse than the usual dick boyfriends you see in romantic comedies, I thought Glenn Gulia was overall a likable character for most part, the only scene I've hated him in was when he punched Adam Sandler's character, Sack on the other hand didn't have any likable qualities in him, the only moment I liked Sack Lodge in was when he'd gotten punched by Jeremy at the wedding.
shareHe was way worse than the usual dick boyfriend you see in romantic comedies. Glenn Gulia for example was just your average stuck-up cheating douchebag. Sack was a Complete Monster.
My question was why Claire was going to marry this guy. He was a jerk throughout the entire movie.
shareWho was Sack's friend that played football with them at the house? Was it his friend, or was he a family member? He was obnoxious too. But Sack's character was supposed to be over the top and rude, that was the point.
Also, John could provide for Claire. He was technically a lawyer, he was a mediator for the courts. And plus, Claire comes from money, they would have been alright. Nothing wrong with the woman making more.
I get that Bradley Cooper was meant to be an obstacle of sorts - i.e. Owen Wilson has to get Rachel to fall out of love with him - Cooper - before he - Wilson - can get a chance with her. He seemed a bit cartoonish at times, tho, like when he all but knocked out Vince Vaughn during that football game.
shareI've seen this movie a dozen times and just learned his name is Sack and not Zack
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