Glaring plot holes

I haven't seen all of the puppetmasters and I know that you're right that it's a plothole with Six-Shooter being missing from 1 and 2 but I think they liked to add a new puppet per film and he was just the one for part 3 so he hadn't even been thought of before, there isn't a proper explanation behind it (I don't they actually tried to explain these things in the films did they?)

For 3) yes Leech woman was killed and it was never explained how she came back.

Just noticed 1) and again there isn't an explanation behind it, he did seem like a kind and fairly decent man in the first and third parts who got just a tad ticked off (I think we all would) when his wife was shot.

6) I've always wondered that and again no explanation.

I haven't seen Retro so I couldn't answer but the series has left big plotholes that are just not explained in anyway and I'll bet it's the same for Retro. It may have been that they didn't want people to actually think about it.

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1)Why is Toulon evil in part 2? He seems to hate his puppets, but why?
TOULON WENT NUTS WHEN THE CHARACTER REMINDED HIM OF HIS DEAD WIFE ELSA, AND HE TRIED TO THE FLUID FOR HIM AND HER (THE FLUID KEEPS THE PUPPETS ALIVE) AND THEY START FIGHTING OVER IT, BUT EVENTUALLY ANDRE GETS WASTED, AND LEARNS THE ERROR OF HIS WAYS IN PART 4.

2)If Six-Shooter was built and 'alive' during WWII, where is he hiding during the first two movies?
NEVER EXPLAINED. HE WAS MADE UP FOR PART 3, IT WOULDN'T OF HAPPENED IF THE SERIES CREATOR "DAVID SCHMOELLER" RETURNED, BUT HE WASN'T ALLOWED, AND THE SERIES SCREWED UP FROM AFTER PART 1.

3)Didn't the old fat lady kill Leech Woman in part 2, and if so, who rebuilt her for part 4?
LEECH WOMAN (OR SHOULD I SAY "MS. LEECH" AS SHE'S CALLED IN PART 1) NEVER EVEN APPEARED IN PARTS 4 AND 5. SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD, YET TUNNELER REAPPEARS AFTER ALSO DYING IN PART 2, AND THEN MS. LEECH COMES BACK (WITHOUT REASON) IN PART 6.

4)Where was Torch hiding in "Curse of..."?
NO EXPLAINATION. IN REAL LIFE THEY PROBABLY COULDN'T PAY TO HAVE HIM DO ANYTHING, AND IT COULD BE THE SCRIPT WRITERS FAULT.

5)Come to think of it, how the hell did the old crazy doctor get ahold of the puppets for "Curse of..."?
DR. MAGREW MENTIONED IN THE FILM "I BOUGHT THEM AT A AUTION YEARS AGO." PUPPET MASTER 8: THE LEGACY, WHERE 'RICK MYERS' FROM PARTS 4 AND 5 IS DEAD.

6)More "Curse of...": Since we see Tank building a humanoid puppet out of wood, how the hell does he end up with a vehicular puppet made of metal?
ROBERT (TANK) WINSLEY DIDN'T BUILD THE METAL MACHINE PUPPET. DR. MAGREW DID, AND ROBERT'S WOODEN PUPPET WAS REMOVED WITHOUT SHOWING IT.

7)If the original puppets included Cyclops and that crazy doctor thing ("Retro...") whatever happened to them, and why did Toulon leave them out of his future versions of the puppets? Accepting that Toulon loves his puppets as children, which we see he does in parts 3 and 4, doesn't it seem odd that he would just abandon these two?
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. THE 'RETRO' PREQUEL MADE THE CHARACTERS UP, CHARLES BAND NEVER THOUGHT OF DOING SUCH A THING UNTIL A SCRIPT CAME TO HIM. THE RETRO PUPPETS ARE DEAD, YOU WOULD KNOW WHEN ANDRE FOUND CYCLOP'S HEAD IN THE TRUNK. I WROTE A FAN FICTION EXPLAINING THIS, BUT ALSO IN REAL LIFE I BET, THE PUPPETS EVENTUALLY WERE ALL KILLED BY EITHER THE EVIL GOD SUTEK OR SOME FRENCH GUARDS OR NAZIS.

8)Another "Retro..." question: We specifically see Toulon creating Blade (the coolest puppet, IMO) in part 3. We specifically see the person that inspires the creation of Blade in part 3. So how in the name of all that is sweet and holy is Blade in "Retro...", which takes place some 30-odd years before part 3?
THEY'RE NOT THE SAME PUPPETS. IN "RETRO" IT WAS JUST A KNIVED PUPPET WITH A BROWN TRENCH COAT AND HAT. HE JUST CALLS HIM 'BLADE' CAUSE OF HIS HANDS BEING LITTLE KIFE BLADES. PLUS: THEY MADE THIS PREQUEL WITHOUT SEEING WHAT SCREW UPS IT WOULD MAKE, LIKE 'PART 2' DID.

9)Last one: In "...Legacy" the woman claims that 'they' sent her to kill the puppets. First off, who are 'they'? Secondly, if she was just there to kill the puppets, why did she even bother talking to Peter? The puppets were right frickin there in plain view, why didn't she just shoot the little wooden buggers instead of hanging out and subjecting us to bad acting for half an hour?
I'M ASSUMING SOME NAZIS SENT HER TO RECHIEVE THE SECRET. THEY WERE AFTER IT IN PART 1 AND IT CAN'T BE SUTEK FROM PARTS 4 AND 5, HE'S DEAD. I'D SAY SOME OLD (NOT STOPPING) NAXIS WANTED THE SCERET.

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These questions can all be answered by one simple sentence: The continuity in the Puppet Master series sucks.

Seriously, I knew that trying to summarize all the entries in one movie would be a disaster and I was right. Don't get me wrong, I love the first three movies, and even the fourth one is kind of fun, but everything after that....ugh.

The "Puppet Master" continuty does suck. I think its apperant that Charles Band made stuff up as he went along and didn't really think about smooth plotting. For years I figured one and two existed in a different universe then the rest of the series since the tone was so completely different and Toulon was such a different character in one and two compaired to the rest of the series.

Legacy seems to say that it goes like this:
Retro
3
4
5
Curse of
1
2

To try and answer your questions:

1. All I can assume is that being dead so long has rotted his brain and changed his personality.

2. Good question. Which puppets appear in each film seems to be chosen at random. Even following the continuity set up in "Legacy," it doesn't explain where Leech Woman was in four and five, how Torch showed up as if he'd always been there in part five, where Six Shooter went before one and two, etc.

3. According to "Legacy," 2 takes place after four and five. Of course, Leech Woman wasn't in either of those. (See the last question)

4. The writers really just seem to throw in which ever puppets were their favorite in each movie. Again, a reoccuring thing in this series.

5. Apperantly, in-between five and "Curse of," the puppets got sick of their immortalitly and turned against Rick Meyer, so he sold them. This explains why they betray their master in 6, 1, and 2.

6. The general answer to this seems to be, the puppet the doctor made wasn't the same as the one Tank was working one throughout the film. But this makes no sense to me. My answer? The effects department that designed the puppet didn't read the script.

7. We can only assume that something happened to Dr. Death and Cyclops before the events of three.

8. Well, Blades is the most popular of the puppets, so a verison of him obviously needed to be in "Retro," so they stuck him in there. For a in-universe answer... Well, the only thing Toulon took from the Nazi general for Blades design was his look, not his weapons. Maybe Toulon just decided to incorporate the look of his new enemy into an old design of his?

9. "They" are the puppets. The puppets' souls are immortal so she couldn't just shot them, she needed to learn how to destroy them once and for all first. Plus it gave Charles Band a way to make a new movie without having to film barely any new footage, since Full Moon apperantly had no money then.

Just to clarify, "Vs. Demonic Toys" wasn't made by Full Moon so it isn't within the rest of the series continuity.

I would love to see a new Puppet Master film. I grew up with this series. However, I like to see it as a new beginning. The original eight film's storyline is so convoluted. Obviously, when they made the first film they never planned for the events of the future installments, especially three onward. So a new sequel would be a totally new start. And, hey, let's actually plan for sequels this time so their aren't huge holes in everything.

1. The formula itself tends to mess up when used to bring a human body back to life. The guy from the first one seemed a little off too. He obviously was nuts in the fact he thought the girl was his wife reincarnated when her soul was in Leech Woman.

2. Well we have many reasons to question it. Without formula they are inatimate puppets and it's very likely he got lost. Although with AoE coming out now, Six-Shooter is said to only have a small role. We do however know that the trunk was not Toulon's only hiding place in the Bodega Bay Inn. The guy in one had to of found Leech Woman, Pinhead, and Tunneler somewhere else since Toulon didn't put them in. More than likely The other Puppets found him after they left Camille.

3. The obvious answer would be Rick did it with advice on how to do it by Toulon via Decapitron. After that Rick was probably killed and the Puppets got to the place where McGrew found them.

4. Torch must have been missing from the time of Rick's death or something. It might very well be possile McGrew didn't want to animate the one with a damn flamethrower.

5. Already answered above

6. That is a very good question. However McGrew just wanted to make a living puppet. Apparently somewhere he decided that making a Decapitron style one with lighting was going to be easier than one by way of wood, he just never told Tank to stop making the wood.

7. We know the original puppets died but we don't know how. Cyclops' head was in the trunk where Blade found it. Also while they made the retro ones look like the main ones on purpose, to apply logic really is to say Toulon just happened to meet people in real life to inspire him to make modern puppets like his old ones. But the soul is linked to the puppet even after destruction. I guess this could possibly open a new door to..."Did they betray him?" But remember there is also Mephisto who appears in the flashbacks. It could be possibly Mephisto helped defeat the older ones and that was why he was weakned. Although maybe Toulon didn't know the soul didn't pass back on when the puppet was seemingly killed. Which would make sense to why he never rebuilt The retro guys or Mephisto.

8. Answered in 7

9. The best answer is the Retro one and Mephisto. Because as I mentioned Toulon must not of known despite the bodies being destroyed the souls are trapped. However do notice if the current puppets wanted out of there bodies. Why did they not help kill Peter? They obviously weren't the ones asking to be liberated.

For me, the big ones were Tunneler and MS Leech dying and coming back. But I guess Tunneler really didn't die, they could have fixed him. Ms Leech should have been explained in Legacy that she was brought back since they showed her burning.

In Axis of Evil, there is a scene where they find the parts of Six Shooter in a lower drawer and the main character mentions how he'll "get around to fixing him" so that leads me to believe that he never fixes Six Shooter and he remains in pieces until after PM 2

One question that I wish was resolved was what ever happened to the full size female puppet at the end of PM 2. You see her take the puppets and drive off to the mental institute but that's it.

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Why does everyone think this movie sets part 2 last, after all the others? It doesn't. The clips of the second movie are shown right after the ones from the first, with the puppets attacking the characters in the hotel then the fat woman in her house and the resulting death of Leech Woman. That all was from part 2.

Yes, Maclain mentioned other events of part 2 at the end of the film, about Andre Toulon being resurrected as an undead zombie and turning evil. That was only because Weiss didn't know about that and she was trying to make a point that the puppets were always used for malevolent purposes. That didn't at all mean the flashbacks were in the exact order that they happened. If it did, that would mean some events of part 2 took place after 1 then others took place after Curse, which would be completely ridiculous. The chronology is still Retro, 3, 1, 2, 4, 5, Curse, Legacy, Vs. DT. And I believe the two Axis films take place after 3, with the latest one taking place after Toulon shoots himself at the beginning of the original. I haven't seen them yet though so I'm not completely sure.

I don't get why everyone seems to be confused by this.

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