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So Pocahantas is never gonna be in KH?


I'm assuming she is too contraversial a character to have given the story that's based around her and the fact she has yet to make an appearance makes me assume were never gonna be seeing her.

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It could work, however, I think a Pocahontas world would be too similar to Mulan.

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I was just thinking the issues that relate to the Pocahantas story such as racism and xenophobia would not sit well in the kingdom hearts universe.

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Yeah it does have pretty dark themes in it, but so does Hunchback, perhaps even darker than Pocahontas. They could easily have the new crew of Englishman show up to dig their land and with them they bring heartless because of their greed. The story there could be about protecting the land.

They mangaged to do Tazan's world just fine I don't see why not Pocahontas'

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Because the Pocahontas sucks!

Troll Alert!

Now back on topic. If they did do the world. Who would fight alongside you? John Smith or Pocahontas herself.

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It's not a matter of whether someone would prefer a different world. There is seeminlgy only one game left and I doubt they are going to fit in too many new movies in one.

They might as well do Pocahontas since they have done every other movie world of the 90's. I think the film is good, it was more of a dramatic/ serious turn for Disney, along with Hunchback.


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I am not a troll, asshat.
Ugh yeah you are. And you just proved it with your childish insult. Good going troll.

I'm saying that Pocahontas should not be in Kingdom Hearts because the characters are flat and the material subpar. Name one person that would prefer a Pocahontas world over, say, a Tangled world.

I'd prefer a Pocahontas world to the boring Winnie the Pooh world in the first game and I sure as hell would prefer it over a Lilo and Stitch world or a Chicken Little.

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Dude you really need to chill out, you are definitely borderline troll just because you don't know how to control yourself. Your insult was definitely more childish than the other poster calling you a troll. If someone doesn't agree with you, you lash out. Pocahontas is not a bad film at all. It has won many awards and 'Colors in the Wind' is one of the most well known Disney songs.

You need to learn how to control yourself. And you did deserve to be called a troll. You posted just blatantly saying Pocahontas sucks without any explanation. If you think it's a bad movie, good for you. But now you are just insulting people because they call you a troll.

Also, to the other poster, KHIII is not the last KH game. Just the last in the Xehanort saga. There will be more games for the series, though.

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I proved nothing, moron. Going "Troll Alert" before I had done anything is far more childish.
Keep it up troll your only digging yourself deeper.

And I had every right to call you a troll. Anybody who comes to a board and comments sucks without an explanation or not even trying to get a good discussion going. Is nothing but an attention hungry Troll!!!.

I insulted you because you earned it.
Good to know you lost sleep over my comment

So yes, to me it is a bad movie if only for being a rape of history.
Yeah because Disney Animated movies are suppose to be 100% accurate and realistic.



Anyway... time for a discussion thats worthy of my time. If there is a Pocahontas world. I hope there is a summon attack that involves the Colors of the Wind. And yes that was a good song(good call Higherhusky) and the animation during it was fantastic. With stronger graphics on the PS3 I hope they focus on the animation style of each world. Like they did with Steamboat Willie in part 2.

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No, you didn't.
Ugh yes I did. And someone here thats not even me confirmed it.

I am not an attention hungry troll. Stop calling me that.
Ugh no, stop acting like one and maybe I'll consider it.

You just prove what a dimwitted mewling little quim you are with each new comment.


Mewling Quim? Your the only one doing the whining here baby. A whining baby Troll.

I never said it had to be 100% accurate, but they could have at least been somewhat accurate. They weren't even trying.
Yeah because Disney is known for trying to be accurate. Thats why they make movies about Mermaids and talking animals.


That's funny, you have yet to say anything that's worth any time to anyone.
Oh my how did you figure that? Let me guess you mind read everyone here . Sure what ever you say Proffesor X. As for what you think, I could care less Troll.

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No, you didn't, and that someone who isn't even you is also an idiot.
Oh what a surprise. The childish baby troll insults someone.

I'm not acting like a one at all. You have nothing to consider.
Sure you are troll. Your the one who asked me to stop in the first place genius .

Movies with Mermaids and talking animals aren't based on real life.
Nah really, my 5 year old sister could have told you that

The story of Jamestown really happened, and real people really struggled there. Disney should have made an effort to capture the reality of this significant period of our history. You DON'T rewrite history like that.
Ahh poor whining baby troll. You sad because Hollywood rewrites history. Well get over it because they've been doing it for years. Especially Disney who make billions of dollars on make believe stories. You must be really niave or just plain retarded to think they would be realistic with their movies. Next time go read a book or do some research on Jamestown. Otherwise get over it troll.

As the result, I come across far too many idiots who think that Pocahontas actually did have a love affair with John Smith.

Well thats your fault troll . Maybe you should get friends who are smarter and who don't believe Disney animated movies are real. Don't blame a Disney movie for your choice of friends.

Sorry, but you're pathetic excuses hold no weight where things that actually happened are concerned.
Pathetic? Your the one arguing the realism of an animated movie from Disney troll .

No, I can just tell what a moron you are just by this conversation.
Feeling is mutual troll.


I don't care if you care. You are an ant to my boot.
Your petty childhood insults say otherwise troll.

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No, you didn't, and that someone who isn't even you is also an idiot.


Dude grow up. I love how you called the other poster a mewling quim, by the way. Someone has watched The Avengers =D Amazing movie btdubs.

Awards do mean something. Especially when they are academy awards. Award shows where the public votes are horrible, but when it's the academy, it means a whole lot. I understand that you don't like Pocahontas cause it's not accurate, but Disney never goes by accurate. Even the stories in Disney movies are changed completely to meet the younger audience.

I would not consider you borderline troll if you didn't constantly attack people and calling them idiots and/or morons. You are just a giant tool. Grow up, go to school, and get a job. Stop attacking people, and stop being rude. People don't respect anyone who just insults others for no reason. And don't say you had a reason because you were called a troll.

You call me an idiot but your the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. Let's go back to our last forum. You still don't understand to seem why KH3 hasn't been in development, granted you tried to fight me for days. Doesn't seem like you read any interview from nomura to understand, either. I get why you don't like pocahontas, and I will appreciate your opinion, but not when you act like a dick.

I do love how many Avenger references you mentioned. Seriously. Ant to my boot lmao

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Wow, you graduated college AND have a full time job? I never would have known by the way you act. You obviously still don't know anything about Nomura and KH's development. You're just disrespectful and need to pick up some social skills because you lack them severely.

And the Academy does mean something. It's all opinion, and you don't seem to agree with any of them, but they do mean a lot. Even if they don't win. Being nominated is still a huge deal.

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Yeah...if anyone's a pathetic child of a troll here, it's you.
Troll make it easy on yourself and just write "I know you are but what am I" next time like a good little baby troll.

When did I deny that Hollywood's been rewriting history for years?
When you said Disney shouldn't be rewriting history like that. That basically meant films period shouldn't be rewriting history at all. Which is stupid since they do it all the time troll. Films are make believe especially Disney films. Which you seem to have hard time getting into that troll head of yours.

I've written entire papers on Jamestown, moron. YOU go read a book and do some research.
I don't care if you've slept with the corspe of Pocahontas herself troll. And no, because I could give a 2 sh!!ts about Jamestown. Your the one whining about it.

I never said the morons who believe that the Disney Pocahontas is accurate are my friends. I said I've "MET" a lot of people who do (and so have you, admit it).
So you talk to random stupid people on the street or where ever you go. Then again thats your fault troll.

And no I've never met people like that nor do I want to. So your wrong again troll.

Also, don't talk about me friends. You don't know them.
Didn't say I did troll. You brought it up and I assumed they were your friends. Since you obviously talk to them. Other wise you must be some weirdo who talks to random people about Disney films all the time.

No, you're the pathetic one, for accepting how they butchered history.
No, I'm just not some whining troll who cries about realism in a Disney Animated Film. I don't watch movies for realism or to be educated by something thats not true. I watch movies to be entertained and to appreciate the art and craft on screen like normal people do.

I don't care what you feel, troll. Believe whatever you want, insect.
Okay troll.

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The fact that Nomura is prioritizing FFXIII Versus over KHIII tells me enough. I guarantee you that a poll would show what fans/paying customers actually want, and it isn't FFXIII Versus. THAT is a FACT. No, I have social skills as you'd see if you ever observed me in public. What I lack respect for is people attacking me out of the blue for stating my opinion of ONE movie. Not even a good movie, at that.


I never said that fans wanted Versus more than KHIII. I agree, I want KH3 way more than Versus. But as I said, (I think in the other topic) I don't think he meant for Versus to take as long as it had. And honestly, I think Nomura wants to make KH3 more than Versus at this point, but he's locked onto to finish the game.

And I agree about people attacking you out of the blue, but you did come off kind of harsh. Honestly, I would just like to call a truce with you. We keep going back and forth and it's not going anywhere lol. We seem to have some stuff in common, (obviously not everything haha) but it's just getting tiresome going back and forth. I understand where you are coming from, but opinions are opinions.

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I think it will be, but one of the reasons it's taking awhile is because he's doing in game environment interactions. Like some things that would normally happen in a cut scene are going to happen in real time during just regular game play. Like you could be walking and a plane could crash while you're just walking through a town. Apparently, that has been taking up a huge portion of the development.

One of the reasons I think so many of the spin-off titles were created was because he felt bad because of how long it was taking. Birth by Sleep, coded, and 358/2 Days were all planned ahead of time. KH3D was kind of created because Nintendo came to him because they thought KH would be great for the 3DS. I don't think the story for 3D was made up on the spot because it's supposed to lead right into KH3, but I don't know what would have happened otherwise.

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I think it will be, but one of the reasons it's taking awhile is because he's doing in game environment interactions. Like some things that would normally happen in a cut scene are going to happen in real time during just regular game play. Like you could be walking and a plane could crash while you're just walking through a town. Apparently, that has been taking up a huge portion of the development.
I just hope the graphics for the worlds. Will look as beautiful as Final Fantasy XIII. That to me should be the barometer for how the game should look. Anything else would be dissapointing to say the least.

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Wow. That sounds very unappealing to me, actually. I would rather just have a cut scene.


I love the idea of it, kind of like what Fable II did. But since it is taking as long as it is, I would honestly just prefer a cut scene as well.

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You are hypocrisy defined. You call me troll as many times as you can, yet you act just like one, yourself.
Eh no troll, I'm just treating you the way you treat me and other people.

Idiotic comments like that prove my point here. I'm not even going to dignify this one with an answer it's so stupid on every level.
No whats stupid is that you made a big deal about meeting people who think the Disney Pocahontas is real. And when I tried to make sense of your pathetic stupid story. Your now denying it since you just figured it makes you look really stupid.
Don't act like you have some kind of mental superiority when you can't even spell.
Ugh thats not spelling troll. I just used the wrong "your". Just like when you wrote ["me friends" its suppose to be "my friends" idiot] on an earlier comment you made. You must be one pathetic troll if your using one simple mistake to show how superior you are. The funny part is you did it too hypocrite.
Yes, I also watch movies to be entertained...when they're not based on real life. It is not too much to ask for a little respect to something that really happened and continues to have an impact on the world today.
Ugh no, because unless its a documentary movies are never based on real life. Some live action movies may take some inspiration from real life. Like "Braveheart" but 85 percent of is made up. Especially animated ones.

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Ahh the poor baby troll can't take it anymore. So long baby troll.

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