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Epic Fail

posted 11 years ago by angelthman
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I know it's supposed to be a mockumentary, but it's ultimately just an ugly film. All races come out looking bad. It's supposed to be an anti-racism statement, but it defeats its own purpose and the end result is a work that feels mean-spirited and racist. And most of all, a pointless exercise.

Whether the south won or not, slavery would have ended. The abolitionism movement wasn't limited to Lincoln and the northern US. Anti-slavery sentiment had built momentum all over the world by the 19th century. So global pressure would have eventually toppled the institution of slavery.

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[–] daniel-teague21 11 years ago

Agreed, and the basis of the south winning the war was because of the english and french siding with the confederacy? Feeble minded , and arrogant. certain things like the great depression would not have happened. in the film, the C.S.A.goes to war prior, which btw is a period of solid production, in turn boosts the economy of the host nation.so the event depicted would not have happened. in addition things like the south calling themselves aryan back in the civil war? before the term was coined? this is not even close to accurate. somewhat unnerving and slanderous.the statements at the end were moot as well. "Judah P. Benjamin's negotiations lacked one key victory to succeed." What victory, the capture of D.C.? first off that's politics , you don't cut ties with either side in the event one wins, but you don't help either side, in this way you can create the illusion of support so no matter who is the victor you can claim allegiance to them the whole time and stay in good graces. this is like an uneducated Dan Brown novel, take historic facts and ddates and fill in the rest with story. only Dan Brown is Talented and entertaining. Just because you own a camera and have an idea, that does not give you the liberty to call yourself a journalist.

[–] Promontorium 11 years ago

So many dumb people commenting. "Epic fail" really? Are you a 12 year old girl or just really dumb? You don't back up any of your ridiculous assertions.

Also, slavery has never ended. So your point is idiotic. There is sex slavery globally. Massive sex slavery. There are also more African slaves in Africa now, than ever in history. Actual outright slaves. Globally.

Blah blah blah you didn't actually get this movie, and you're dumb.

[–] Cypher_Angel 10 years ago

Wrong. You don't get the movie, or life. This reprehensible bigoted piece of crap has no grounding in reality. Only an ignorant dupe would find anything of value in this anti-white, anti-Semitic, ahistorical garbage.

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With trenches full of poets,
The ragged army, fixing bayonets to fight the other line

[–] arkayenether 10 years ago

He backed up his "ridiculous assertions" with historical facts about how the slave trade was viewed at the time, also, sex slavery...illegal in most countries. African slaves...viewed as reprehensible by every civilized country in the world. Your argument is completely invalid

[–] Cherrydc2 10 years ago

Obviously you don't get Satire. I only one you paid attention in English class you'd see this movie as just that SATIRE. Read some short stories by Kurt Vonngut before you post something.

[–] Error_PC_LOAD_LETTER 9 years ago

Its been said before in this thread, but in order for something to be satire, the topic being "roasted" must have an element of truth -- or be lampooning REAL social / societal conditions.

The only thing this film "satirizes" is the way some/many libtards want the masses to THINK our societal standards are.

For instance, a "satire" showing white cops shooting black citizens at random in small town America is not satire. It is intended to create a stereotype that such an incident actually occurred -- based on a popular news story where a black thug tried to kill a cop and was shot in the struggle. It is an attempt to create a fabrication where there is video, autopsy, and forensic evidence to the contrary.

Hate speech, by the way, is not satire either. Portraying some public figure you hate in disgusting and retarded ways is not satire, though many people seem to think it is.

The thing which makes this particular film so reprehensible is that it attempts to depict the south and Americans in general as being racist -- no, not the extreme that the film depicts, but is pretending to magnify to the extreme a supposed element of racism that exists in America today. I am fifty years old, and I have NEVER known racism to be acceptable among white society or in any mainstream American segment of society. I HAVE seen a subculture of Black America crying racism any chance they get, however. And I have been shot twice in two separate robberies and both times the criminals were black.

Then again, so were the cops, arresting officer, and judge who put them away.

White racism does NOT EXIST in mainstream, multicultural America. It has not existed at least since the 1970s when I was becoming socially aware. You cannot "satirize" something that does not exist; if you do, its propaganda to make others believe it does.

[–] agracier-574-436194 9 years ago

White racism does NOT EXIST in mainstream, multicultural America. It has not existed at least since the 1970s when I was becoming socially aware.

You have got to be kidding or selectively blind or just not interested (which last is totally acceptable since such items and phenomena are quite depressing).

But, just from my perspective from across the Atlantic: just the way that so many American treat and comment on their president really and truly makes it difficult to believe there is no racism any more. If anything, since his election it has made quite a resurgence.

But at least in defense it can be said that racism is virtually everywhere making a resurgence: in countries like France, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Scandinavian countries, in all of these places we can see a cranking up of racial hatreds and resentments. Where I live it is just the same.

[–] krypton_son 9 years ago

agracier-574-436194, you assume we comment about our president like that because we're racist? Have you ever thought that maybe we don't like him because he's a very bad president?

[–] agracier-574-436194 9 years ago

And yet he was elected twice. So I wouldn't use the plural.

But that aside, the consistent vehemence against moderate policies give rise to suspicions that for many Americans, it is not about the message that the president is spreading, but that the hate and spite is because of his ethnicity.

It is so blatantly obvious that denying it is really very lame.

[–] dbryantvfx 9 years ago

I only one you paid attention in English class

Oh the irony