Bloody shirt
I'm confused. So the bloody shirt ennice found him jacks closet, this was ennices shirt? I remembered when he said I can't believe I left my shirt up there. So then jack took his shirt? Plz explain.
shareI'm confused about this too. So in reality jack was beaten and killed? Why didn't his wife know that? Was it that the men who killed him staged his death?
shareNo, jack disappeared in mexico. Everyone was lying to create confusion.
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It's always important to note that the murder scene occurs while Ennis is on the phone with Lureen.
Note that the action moves from Ennis listening to Lureen's explanation of the tire-rim accident to the murder, then back to Ennis's face as Lureen is no longer sure he's still there: "Hello? Hello!" Then he "comes out of it," so to speak.
What is distracting him at that point? The obvious answer: that Jack's beating death that we see is entirely a vision in Ennis's mind. He'd convinced himself that he and Jack would end up like Earl, the old man whose mutilated body Ennis's father had taken Ennis and his brother to see (and whom Ennis thought might actually have been murdered by Del Mar senior). As it says in the short story, Ennis just "knew" that they'd gotten (Jack) with the tire iron.
But Larry McMurtry, who co-wrote the screenplay with Diana Ossana and who has lived in tiny Archer City, Texas, a good part of his life, says that accidents with tire rims on large trucks are not at all unknown in that part of the country. Annie Proulx, who created the characters and wrote the original short story, also vouched for this. In real life, a report of such an accident in a place such as Childress, Texas, would be accepted without question.
There is the possibility that Jack WAS murdered (although if it happened just as Ennis envisioned it, he'd have to have been remarkably clairvoyant). In which case, the locals could very well have told Lureen the "tire rim" story to protect one of the ladies of the town from having to face the truth about her husband's death and his double life leading up to it. (Also, Jack had been dead for some time when Ennis called Lureen. By then, whether she knew the story was bogus or not, she would have been weary from repeating it over and over to new inquirers--a likely explanation for her emotionless, rote description of Jack's death.)
I prefer to believe that it was an accident. There's no proof that it wasn't, and I don't want to have to imagine Jack's last thoughts being of his Ennis, whom he realizes he will never see again.
"You can't have Ennis without Jack."--Annie Proulx
lol; you really can't tell the difference between a troll and a sincere poster! Too funny.
Btw, do you think ennuise drove a truck because he wanted to appear more manly? And, was jake really his boyfriend, or was he just trying to get to alma? I'm confused.
Seriously, Ron.
Oh, they've taken gullible out of the American dictionary because no-one understands irony in the US. They are replacing it with the word 'foreign'.
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Hi Ron, hope your ok my friend! Thanks for your comprehensive reiteration of the possibilities surrounding Jack's death, with which I agree completely, as you may remember!
I see here that an 'Ignored' message follows your two items, which leads me to assume, sadly, that even after 10 years, and the supposed liberalisation surrounding gay issues, at least in the 'west', we are still plagued by knuckle trailing dinosaurs spewing their bile!
Best Wishes
Sam
Jack leaned against the steady heartbeat
News from the ignorant-and-proud-of-it. How enlightening. Another one who can't tell a troll from his own elbow, but this one doesn't even try.
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Hi, Sam! Yes, I take no chances--our infamous trio of Lester, Mike and Phydeaux remain on permanent Ignore.
When they learn to like the film instead of trolling it, I'll see about letting them return from the Phantom Zone. (Don't hold your breath, though.)
"You can't have Ennis without Jack."--Annie Proulx
How absurd- you don't read the posts but you will condescend to respond when you decide that our responses are to your tastes. How is that not trolling, dopey.
lmfao
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Yes, as he has shown us time and again Rontrigger is in fact 'dopey.' But he enjoys his dopiness and that's all that matters, isn't it??
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Dopey and sackless. I once considered the idea of putting someone on ignore, but I just couldn't bring myself to be so weak. Does it never occur to these hard-right-wingers that others disagree with their opinions yet still manage to cope with that? There's just a few things a person can't really afford to be wrong about, such as tolerance and awareness of others' positions.
Anyway, it was funny that Ron fell for troll bait. He really got into his answer. Too much smoke blown up him has made him precious about his opinions.
The activity about BM has all but died in the arse. The politics surrounding the movie was its mojo. All that's left to discuss these days is in the form of social autopsy.
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