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Is there ANYONE who can appreciate/understa nd a good film?


No plot? Bad acting? Sorry but there IS a plot, if you're not a complete imbecile to follow the story. And the actors weren't that bad, even though some people seem to think that "actors" in porn movies do a better job, which is unlikely considering a million of the movies I've seen, these people should get an Academy Award. It was a great movie. If you've seen Freeway/Freeway 2, they both take a different twist on Hansel and Gretel, this movie is a different fairy tale with a more murderous and sinister undertow. Watch it. Watch it again. Let the movie sink in, and don't try to think too hard. Ahaha.

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I agree with you. There is a good plot (this time grandmother visits little red riding hood, in tha classic tale the girl visits the grandmother), Acting is good (Kathleen Archebald as the grandmother and Susanna Sata as the grandaughter do a good and believable job). I can understand if someone don't like the movie, this one is a love it or hate it one. But I can't believe the reason is the lack of a plot or the bad acting. Technically this movie is well made and I think it deserves a more intelligent way to see it.

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I think it was a fascinating movie. I liked the fact that the true nature of "George"'s existence was not spelled out from the very beginning of the movie. It was only later we discover that the wolf was not only a hallucination but an extension of a young girl's psychotic mind. Her strange behaviors and reactions to things around her in the movie seems not to be the evidence of bad acting but rather it seems to be an interesting interpretation of a wanton sociopath. The actions and situations were quite shocking and gripping and kept me at the edge of my seat.

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I figured the "George" character out the first time he was on screen. If you've seen Fight Club you saw this one coming. This movie was nothing special and certainly not worth watching multiple times. The horrid acting of the young girl made me laugh. Not shocking, not horrific and certainly not thought provoking. Bad movie all- around.

The only redeeming part of this movie was the hot blonde in the shower.



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I just saw this one tonight and it was just plain awesome. I don't know what the problem with the poster who wrote about this film, obviously they didn't see what we saw, but of course "they" gave up on it in the first 10 minutes.

Brilliant work!!!!!!!!

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If you think this movie is brilliant, you are just trying to be artsy and seem intellectual, which is funny, because liking this film automatically nullifies your credentials in either department. This movie might have been good, and I'm sure the scrpt was decent. A few times you even see the faintest flickers of innovative filmmaking, but a good film does not the exception make. If you can't admit that this movie was bad, you either don't love youself enough to be honest with yourself, or you get don't get out of the house as much as you should. And if you do spend alot of time out of the house, you might consider doing society a favor and head back inside.

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Fans of this film need not cower under the jackboots of those who feel this film shouldn't be called "good". I enjoyed the film and IN MY OPINION...it was a good film. Whether it really was a good film or not is completely up to each individual who sees it and being honest or loving yourself has nothing to do with allowing oneself to be entertained by a movie. Some people need to stop feeding their overblown self-esteem with harsh critiques and moronic insults. There most certainly was a plot and it was quite interesting as well. The dialogue was definitely stiff and unnatural in some places but not all b-movies have to rise above that in order to be entertaining.

If you don't like the movie...say so and leave it at that. Stop slamming others in order to continue those feelings of superiority you so desperately need but rarely receive offline.

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Its a bad movie. If Hollywood made this, and Tom Cruise was in it, with Katie Holmes as Jenny, you hypocitical psuedo-cinophiles would slam this in to the ground and crucify the actors involved. But you don't here, why? Because it's not Hollywood, the acting and actors stink up the whole screen(with exception of the Grandmother and the Half-blind hobo), blah blah blah. IT STINKS..... get used to it. You are allowed to have an opinion, fine, but there is a difference between you liking a movie and a movie being of good quality. A MOVIE ISN'T OF GOOD QUALITY JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT!!!!!!!! You like a pile cr@p, and thats fine, but that doesn't mean you can go and say the movie is good. That just means you can like bad movies. And I'm sure we all have a pile of cr@p or two in our collections, but those of us who are honest don't TRY TO PAWN THEM OFF AS QUALITY MOVIES. They are good, or there fun to watch , but they are peices of sh*t. I DON'T care what you think because I am honest, about myself, about what I like wether it's crap or not, and especially about what YOU like, especially if IT IS garbage. And most of all because you think this is a good film. If it was so good, it wouldn't need some 2 dollar would-be agent of social justice to defend it. Do you really think this is a good movie? or are you here because all the other bad movie bandwagons rejected you? Oh yeah, whoever said -- "Stop slamming others in order to continue those feelings of superiority you so desperately need but rarely receive offline." Don't be such a fool and describe your mirror to us. Please. I'm only on-line because my successes off-line(outdoors) allows me to take a vacation and have the time. You know what I say to you. "Go pretend to be a caring humanitarian/savior somewhere else in order to continue those feelings of superiority you so desperately need but rarely receive offline. "You know you are drawing from your own feelings, it's just so transparent. Like a really bad movie. Like "Red Riding Hood"

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Once again, IN YOUR OPINION, it's a bad movie. If Hollywood made this it would probably have been much better. I, for one, would have gone to see it. Nice try on the whole "you hypcritical psuedo-cinophiles" (I'm sure you meant pseudo-cinephiles right?) tactic but simply because people enjoyed this film and you are trying so hard to shed a negative light on peoples characters for it doesn't prove anything except that you feel derision will somehow make your point more valid.

Furthermore, allow me to use your own comment on you. "A MOVIE ISN'T OF POOR QUALITY JUST BECAUSE YOU HATE IT!!!!!!" You may feel that you're being "honest" but the truth is your reactions aren't the reactions of somebody who allows others to have their own opinions. You keep attacking in hopes of forcing others to fall in line with your own opinion. From what I'm seeing...if they don't fall in line you'll continue to bash them over the head with insults until they do. Grow up man.

I'm not sure where you're going with the whole "bad movie bangwagon rejects" thing but it's obvious you've made up your little mind to attack and insult until everybody goosesteps to your sorry tirades. I don't care why you're offline or online or where you vacation. Obviously, you're hoping somebody is impressed. Unfortunately, nobody is impressed.

People like the film and felt it was good. You don't. Get over differing opinions and if you can't, at the very least, knock off the 3rd grade rock throwing. Are you holding your breath and turning blue while you type too?

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now this thread is some funny *beep* i love it.

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Yeah, some people get mighty upset over entertaining crap like this movie, and their psuedo-intellectual arguements are just as entertaining. Well, I enjoyed the movie, and I don't care if it is crap.

I must agree, however, eith the arguement that if this were high budget Hollywood with Tom Cruise, etc. we would be slamming it into the ground. I expect better of Hollywood because they have the best money, talent, experience, etc. When I watch indie films, I don't expect them to be 'good.' I enjoy them when they are far fetched, or in some either way completely absurd. Hollywood never does anything like that, though Wes Craven comes close sometimes, like with 'People Under the Stairs.' But where else can one see a teenage girl, home alone in Rome, punishing people sadistically for their sins with her imaginary friend, who used to be her puppy, with that broadway sounding song 'Family' thrown into the mix? That's my kind of crap!

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it was decent. jenny really seemed to have thought everything thru

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Why would I want to get out of the house more, so I can engage myself with wonderfully arrogant people like you? No thanks. You can stay out in "society" with the rest of the people like you, and have at it with each other. I'll do myself the favor and stay inside with my *beep* movies, which would be better company than people like you any day.

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Why would I want to get out of the house more, so I can engage myself with wonderfully arrogant people like you? No thanks. You can stay out in "society" with the rest of the people like you, and have at it with each other. I'll do myself the favor and stay inside with my *beep* movies, which would be better company than people like you any day.

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Mind-numbing garbage. That's what this is.

Here's a newsflash: when people say "there is no plot," it would be a good guess to say they mean "the plot really sucked." But there are always people who will b* tch about the presence of some alleged "dramatic storyline." Yes, we get it. We understand perfectly. You're the same people who play the word game when other people say "your vote doesn't count." Oh, I can definitely understand that logic: 1 vote of 200 million accounts for 0.0000005% of the entire nation's voice. Well, I concede; your vote DOES count, all 5 hundred-millionths of a percent of it. So yes, this so-called plot DOES exist. That bit about the parental units leaving the 12-year-old girl (around 12, rather) alone in a foreign country is DEFINITELY plot, even if no parent in the world would let a 12-year-old girl take charge of a penthouse apartment with an endless credit card cashflow. That part where the grandmother reveals that George is a hallucination to that one guy is part of the plot, too! We don't care that the Grandmother never expressed even the slightest suspicion, did not formally acknowlege the character was there until was convenient for the feeble story, and never even confronted the child about her psychosis even though that makes essentially no sense for a parent to do. Yes, I agree. The plot may have more holes than a screen door, but it is certainly there.

That aside, you assault the people who compain about the feeble structure of this sad, sad movie, saying, "if you're not a complete imbecile to follow the story," they would understand that it is there. Yes, if you're not a complete imbecile to follow the story, you realize there is a plot. I see perfectly now.

You also make the claim that the actors aren't "that bad." Well, you see, they actually were. In some circles, I would get the whole "well, acting depends on the person" schtick. No, it does not. That girl was a horrible actor. No one acts like that in real life. Believable, my @ss. The grandma sucked, too. Everyone in the whole movie just sucked. It was like a demented grade-school play, directed by deaf 6-year-olds (as demonstrated by the musical choices, which seem like a puzzle peice jammed into a spot to which it doesn't belong), and acted by a bunch of foreign exchange students. Speaking of production, you know how they say that an infinite number of immortal monkeys given an infinite amount of time (and typewriters) would eventually hash out the works of Shakespeare, just based on pure random chance? Well, I'm convinced that a few dozen monkeys given a couple hours would hash out something entirely comparable to "Red Riding Hood."

I don't understand what people like about this movie. Honestly. What were the producers thinking? The few would-be-rewarding qualities are completely kicked in the balls by the sequences immediately after. For example, when the little girl is emailing someone at the end, the clicking of the keyboard morphs into the tap-dancing of someone seen at the beginning. This could have been a classic end to a crap movie. Very Hitchcockian: center on the villain as it smiles malevolantly, reverting to its past behavior. But no. No, Cimini decides to f* ck that up major. Instead he has the little girl WANDER OUT OF A MENTAL HOSPITAL FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE. Oh yeah, that's really easy to do: just walk out of a the secured place that is paid to keep you strapped to the bed. As if this wasn't enough, out of nowhere George chops this guy off at the knees. So she follows him to find her Dad, who rises from the dead.

It was just so horrible.

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Ummmm... All I can really say is.....*wipes a single tear* .. That was beautiful. I mean. Thank you for being the rational ying to my ranting yang. Thank You.
So now that both extremes of people agree, it's official. This movie sucks.

Oh, and to indiegoof.... I used cin O instead of cin e because I was thinking of the face your mom used to make with me before you pa was in the picture.
Tootles

"....Not Only Was It Authentic Frontier Jibberish..."

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anonymous_freakin_bob, You are my hero ^^ I myself wondered how she wandered out of the hospital at the end--and for that matter, was she even still in the same city with the tap-dancing guy? My best friend and I laughed ourselves silly--sure if she's still insane, but what the hell at her ability to go out and murder? The movie had potential, but really... The murder scenes were so hilariously unlikely that it's impossible to take it seriously.

You forgot to mention that her Zombie dad sings with her to end the movie ^O^

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i will definitly agree with this thread, it was a great movie. Not bad acting, I've seen worse, but not worth any awards. This movie is appreciated by those who like watching movies, that don't have all this f/x and barely any acting. I have recommended this to many of my cliental and they have apposolutely loved it. Especially, the wolf's mask and the drilling of the grandmas knee caps. Awsome. I've come to noticed american films, that show on big screens, won't show you things foreign movies can and it is definitly a shame, considering a bunch of movies I've seen this year are worse than Red Riding Hood.

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It's such a curio that I just can't help liking it.

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The fact of the matter is that you people who sit here complaining about it are just giving it hype. when you complain, people wonder. and when people wonder, they rent. so whether you think it sucked or not your making people go rent it. round of applause! most of you probobly actually went out and spent money to rent it. so you actually boosted profits! ISNT THAT WONDERFUL! and im sure there will be one post saying "i didnt spend money on it, i saw it with a friend! oh and another blah blah blah" It's all stupid *beep* And whether you realize it or not, for a low budget film that never went to theatres and was made by and starred people that most people have never heard of, it did pretty good as far as profits are concerned. I hardly ever post. why? because theres always some *beep* who thinks they are almighty and amazing! So if they say it sucked, it sucked. i happen to think a lot of movies suck. Do you think im going to go to the punch drunk love imdb page and bash it? no. I will continue to keep my opinions out of places where fans linger. so if theres any fans of punch drunk love I apologize. But the fact of the matter is people liked this movie. If you happened to hate it, keep it to yourself AND PISS OFF.
And i mean that as nice as possible, cause im not an ass. Unlike some of you.

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I found it more amusing than anything else. Mainly because I went to school with Susanna Satta (the new title for my autobiography: "I Went To School With A Homicidal Maniac!"). But still.

I think it had great POTENTIAL that it didn't live up to. It was an interesting idea, what with the links to Don Quixote and George and all, but the writing was SADLY lacking. And Susanna I suppose can be forgiven for the somewhat mediocre performance. I mean, really. An eighth-grader whose biggest claim-to-fame was a god-awful (and by that I mean take-that-nail-gun-to-your-own-eyes terrible) version of The Magic Flute on a budget of ten euro. She did improve after that. Really. Getting an actual actor for a drama teacher can work wonders.

So, to summarize: awesome potential, laughable outcome.



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Can we bake him into a quiche?

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Quite Possibly the ... best work of art i have ever seen
you get to see some titties!!!!!!!!!!

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this movie was great!!!! except for the acting. and the plot. and the setting. and the characters and music and every other aspect that goes into movies.

i would pay to watch this again! if they remade it and had more tits!

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It is wildly creative and strangely inspired. A well-photographed movie too, with the cityscapes adding a great deal of mystery and depth.

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Yes, there are people who can appreciate and understand good films, but obviously not you. This is easily one of the worst movies made in the last ten years. There is not a single redeeming quality of this cinematic abomination.


Actually there was one minor redeeming quality. After the first few minutes of realizing just how god awful this was, I was able to literally fast forward through the entire movie and feel like I did not miss a single damn thing. I think we stopped once or twice just to assure ourselves we were watching what possibly could be one of the worst films we had ever seen.

I sure have seen a lot of movies, and I think I have a pretty broad taste. I love all kinds, even some bad ones. I have always liked horror films especially because the bar can be set so low for them. They don't need award winning acting, directing or production. But this movie, my god it was as if nobody involved gave a *#&@ about working. As if they were so pissed off at the pay they decided to just focus their energies on making a really bad film.

But that is not it though. What made this truly an abomination is I believe some actually believed this was worth making. At least some of Uwe Bolls worst movies are honest in that nobody involved seems to think what they are doing is worthwhile.

Claiming this as a great movie only leads me to the conclusion that people from the production have registered accounts here. Well that is certainly nothing new, how many horrible movies always start off with the first 20-30 reviews all giving it a 10/10? For the life of me I can not understand how anyone could give this anything above a 1 or 2. This truly was one of the worst movies I have ever seen, or at least fast forwarded through (what can I say, I just am not a sadomasochist.)

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Honestly for the first half of the movie I felt like I was watching a horrible middle school play that I was forced to watch because I had some family member in it. I kept telling myself that it might get better, but sadly it did not. There were glimmers of hope, but those were few and far between. There were so many holes in the plot that I found myself too busy thinking about those to actually enjoy the movie. I did get a few good laughs though! It was a good start to my quest to watch at least 20 ridiculous horror movies...

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ok, honestly how can you compare this to the Freeway movies? They are both works of genius, and the first one is without exaduration one of the best movies of the past few decades. They took a demented twist on old fary tales... this one just set up some random murders and then cald itself after one. They were full of witty lines that had me laughing through the whole thing... I was laughing here, but at all the wrong places. I'm not sure what school of acting considers this good, unless they are trying to be as unconvinving and groan inducing as possible. And don't tell me that the characters decisions make sense. (ie you see some girl is going to kill her grandmother do you A) call the police B) tell the ambulance people to call the police then runn off to save her or C) run off without telling them, then dress up like her imaginary friend and try to talk her out of it?

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