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Why does this film confuse 99% of Americans?


I don't mind you believing Frankie Wild exists. At the end of the day, it was the intention of the film makers to convince you of this, so even though its not true I'm not going to p*ss on your bonfire.

What I am frustrated about is the amount of people that think this film is about a guy called Pete Tong!!!

I can see the confusion about the title - because the whole "its all gone a bit pete tong" isn't ever said outside UK shores.

HOWEVER, if you actually paid attention to the film you will here the word "Frankie" said about 30 million times. his name is not Pete.

ALSO, As has been mentioned on this board before, Pete appears in the film, playing himself, talking about Frankie.

What's so hard to get you guys?

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Haha, wicked post. Couldnt agreed more <3

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i think we all know why alot of americans don't understand this.


It's our significant lack of DJ-based education in schools. REFORM!!!

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haha that is sooo true...:))

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Pete Tong just isn't as familiar a name ... change it to (ignoring the slang) "... all gone Moby" or "...all gone Chemical Brothers" ... people in the States would "get it" ... Lazy folks just assume it's _about_ Pete Tong and confuse Frankie/Pete Tong. No excuse, though ...

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not true... Pete Tong is a familiar name on the club scene!

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You are a moron, that is all

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Dance music culture is lower profile in the USA. Maybe there's still that "disco sucks!" backlash hanging around. Or maybe it's the "War on (some) Drugs" that has law enforcement sending in night-vision equipped helicopters and cops dressed like Rambo to bust peaceful raves in the Utah countryside. And that "crackhouse" law that makes venue owners liable if any drug dealing happens on the premises...

In contrast, the UK and Europe have many massive dance festivals. DJs like Pete Tong have regular shows on national radio stations. Perhaps the closest equivalent in the USA are the DJs that have sets on Sirius or XM. In Canada, about the only nationally known DJ would be Chris Sheppard.

I'd also suspect that few Americans have the slightest idea what an Ibiza is. If you told them it was an island, I'm sure they'd all support invading it to protect democracy from WMDs (or sunburnt Germans wearing Speedos) and secure the suntan oil reserves.

Instead of making an elaborate in-joke, what would have been so wrong with the original idea of making "Human Traffic 2" but set in Ibiza? If there's boobies and drugs and debauchery and at least one hot American actress, and a basically good story underpinning it all, Americans will be entertained.

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The American club scene is getting better. Thanks to XM, Sirius and MySpace, there is a lot more exposure. There are a few events on the west coast that are ok... I spend NYE with Tiesto, Robbie Rivera and Roger Sanchez...a few Ibiza veterans!

But I agree with the original post...this film is confusing to most American's! But look at us...we depend on Iowa to figure out who gets to be President! Ask an Iowan what is Ibiza and the might tell you it's fancy cheese. I've been to Ibiza and I can tell you - Ibiza is....

oh yeah...this is a great film!

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Maybe it's because we're not douchebag Eurotrash listening to horrible music. Sorry we can't all be like you!

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Wait, Douchebag Eurotrash? Come on. You can do better than that. Europeans have Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, The Orb, Laidback Luke, Alex Kidd, Carl Cox & Paul Oakenfold and these guys have charmed the world more than any of your stupid American bands & rappers have ever done. You may call European EDM horrible, but atleast it has soul and feeling, unlike those stupid Soulja Boy & Jonas Brothers music.

And you sound like a hypocrite. I'm pretty sure for a guy who hates "Eurotrash music", i'm pretty sure you have a song by the Prodigy, Daft Punk & Nine Inch Nails. Congratulations, you fail.

Tony Wilson: you're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is *beep*

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hahahahah since when is Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails European?

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I believed he's influenced by "European Industrial"

"If Turntables are not a musical instrument, then Skateboarding isn't a sport."

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Uh but you're not talking about influence? You can't claim him, he's an American. If we're going to talk influence, how about the influence of delta blues on the very fundaments of rock. Or Chicago house. Or where and how disco started. Not to mention jazz.

I realize you're using the typical jingoistic line of attack, but it's weak. Talk about other faults, but American music is highly influential, just like European music. It's very much a two-way stream.

edit: oh and that rap is spreading everywhere around the world. It's more popular than any electronic subgenre. Whether or not this is due to the homogenizing power of global capitalism, isn't really an issue when you're talking about the very same capitalist-created DJ dance culture. So you say "Souljaboy" and "Jonas Brothers" and I say the hyperreal amalgam of *beep* that is "Ibiza" and "Eurovision."

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Jesus, do you listen to ANYTHING made without a computer? Music with, you know, instruments? "Soul" and "feeling"? This s##t is the epitome of cold and soulless. I'm sure it's cool when you're wearing plastic pants, dropping E and dancing for 10 hours straight though. Have fun with that.

Boddicker: "Bitches, leave!"

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Hahahahah...Im american and that was funny as hell.

Just doing some research on movies like this, and I found that as "with it" as I thought I was in regards to dance culture, I am still way far behind.

I'll be checking this one out along with many others.

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I'm not British, but I've seen Pete Tong play and I know what Cockney rhyme slang is, so it didn't confuse me.

Anyway this movie featured a guy in a bear suit beating the crap out of the protaganist, you'd have to be a certifiable moron to think it was a real documentary.

On a side note I thought the movie was hilarious.

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I thought it was a badger.

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It was a skunk.

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... badger!
From the credits:

Gideon Gold .... Coke Badger
Gordon Skilling .... Coke Badger

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Jesus Christ it was a bloody badger!!!! Skunk? Bear? I'm surprised no one has said it was a sodding racoon.

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LMFAO

"I want to be able to trust you. You know; It's about trust". -A.Rothstien

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that was to illustrate his drug induced hallucinations... it wasn't meant literally...

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possible answer>
Cause their history is barely 300yrs old unlike other`s.
so they are a little bit close minded.

One day I am going to grow wings.

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Or it could be that 95% of Americans can't name a single DJ that isn't Fatboy Slim. It isn't their fault, since 95% of the clubs in the US feature "hip-hop" (which really isn't hip-hop at all, but that is another issue). And unlike other Americans, I took Electronic 101 in college, so I know exactly what this movie is about. Blame the clubs, not the people.

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Wow...apparently the sarcasm was lost on you, so I guess I must be the moron. Maybe I should have put quotations around electronic 101, as in "electronic 101" so you would understand. My apologies...

I meant that most people find their music niche in college. I happened to discover elecronic. Actually, the concept of a university teaching electronic music appreciation isn't a bad idea...

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I'm an American and I got it. I am a big of fan of the "Madchester" scene, and can remember the Hacienda days even though I wasn't there. I understand this movie better than most Mancunians probably do. The gay american clubs don't play hip hop. (unless it's Lesbian.)

Electronic 101 lol! so that makes you an expert? Do a little more research on Kraftwerk.

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excuse me but if from the 350 million are 200(dont know exactly but its obvious' that are a lot.!.!) million idiots I guess i could characterize you as all idiots as u characterize all arabs as terrorists... its not fair to them and i guess(!) its not fair to u 2 ...
as for the film i did not know that its all gone pete tong means all gone wrong but from the beginning of the film u know that its not about pete tong

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Trust me, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans that can name club DJs. The world does not revolve solely around the over blown commercial hip hop junk on the radio. I'm 52 and name a few hundred but then I'm in the music industry and that wouldn't be fair.

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because if i want lessons on hip hop i'll go to the british

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If the coke badger isn't real then why is he in my room right now?

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Don't you get that the man in the bear suit is a symbol of frankies cocaine abuse?! It's tricky to show somenones deamons in a movie but this is how they showed frankies fight with his addiction, the bear being the addition which he finally killed. Metaphors and symbolism, have you heard of it?

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wow. I gota say. What a sad pile of steaming crap. This post the elitist insecure bashing, pitiful racist tripe. I was going to write a scathing few paragraphs asking how many of us do you know, have you spent any real time here, point out there are 350 million of us and making any sweeping 99% comments about a bio mass that large is both simple minded and ridiculous, and that your ideals are probably formed by a mix of satire, stereotype, and ignorance, stemming for a dislike of a gov most of us dislike far more than you ever could. But why bother? A post like this and the several posts that followed just weary me. It’s sad. I guess instead I would ask you if you own any music made by an American. Do you dress in a fashion cooped by one of our plentiful subcultures? Do you go to any American movies, or ever read a book by an American you liked? You do? You did? Of course you do and you have, know why? Because your ideology about Americans all being ignorant, simple fascist, is born not of fact but of need to feel superior. And every time you get on your computer (invented and developed by Americans) and log on to the internet (guess who!!) or talk on the phone (hehe) or turn on you f-ing lights (wow), remember that We don’t hate You, we love you. We thrive on you. We accept and welcome all that your wonderful and exquisite cultures have to offer because we are but a mixture of all of you. The fact is if you can’t see through your silly little stereotypes to the truth that we have the single most diverse and influential culture that you indeed thrive on then your nothing but a parasite whose hate will keep us apart. And that is a god damn shame. Hate the .0001% that makes public policy or the .01% that makes up the stereotypes you believe in but leave the rest of us alone till you’re willing to learn a lil more about us. Thanks xD!

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Actually, the telephone was invented by Alexander Graham Bell - who was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland.

Some say that Antonio Meucci actually invented the telephone. But he was Italian.

Last time I checked, neither Scotland or Italy was a US state.

P/S You didn't understand the film either, did you...

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See here in lies the problem. Not so concerned with the gist of the post were you. But only in appearing right and superior. I guess I could point out that once you change your citizenship that you intact become a part of that country and since all non native Americans are immigrants thought thee ancestors blah blah blah blah... pointless. And I guess I could point out that simultaneous invention is a well documented phenomenon. But I gota say in lew of a long winded antagonistic discourse on the relative importance of invention by those who could or could not be Americans.. I would rather converse about your relative lack of primary argument. To whit, I point out major contributions the world tech and culture and all you can do is call into question the ability to claim an outdated technology as possibly American. I called you a parasite that enjoys the fruits of a culture that loves you, while you bash it in print, and whom you most likely if you were to take a realistic look at your wardrobe and music/movie/videogame library would realize you to some degree emulate. Your primary response is to debate the origins of the telephone. Look m8 I don’t hate you im not even trying to make a big argument here. I’m trying to help you. See you look like a wank when you say things like 99% ... of anything. It’s silly. It seems to be born of a need to feel superior. And believe me you probable are to a certain degree superior to some of the 350 million people livening here. But the problem is in the number 350 million. How many of them do you perceive to be the stereotypes that your local media and your limited exposure to the culture represent? Very few I would think as your ideas from what I can see are indicative of a young mind with very little experience of a culture you doubtlessly live very far from. In short, your post makes you look silly. And I hate to see that.
And as far as my ability to understand this movie. I feel I should take a moment to give my feelings about it since you have already made a baseless assumption about my ability to understand the subject matter at hand. And of course discussing the movie is the primary focus of this forum. Well lets look at the film then shall we. Interesting ideas I spent a year in school in London so I am familiar with cockney slang. I had never heard "it’s all gone Pete tong but I knew this movies origin and the tendency for this subcultures slang to incorporate rhyming in its slang. I also know who Pete Tong is. B4 watching I read a synopsis and the catchers/actor list so I realized this was not about him. I must say the movie is interesting and funny. I felt that it was fractious in its delivery as it explores two different moods during the film. the juxtaposition of the a wacky coked up DJ who is revered but not much respected (the tendency to look foolish while spinning and the frequent unknown sexual encounters of Frankie’s wife, even his son who is obviously the son of a black man), against the more serious second half of his career as a deaf dj whose morals and willingness to grow shapes his eventual choices in life. I believe it’s this "growth" that gives the movie the weight to be more than a silly "wouldn’t-it-be-weird" piece. I like the visual ideal of making music based on the visual wave symmetry alone, and more so when he uses the skills acquired by learning to lip read to find patterns in life and then by applying that to looking at his old music patterns in his new compilations. all this in the sharp relief of the numerous well place jokes such as the crowing shot about needing two auzie m8s when in fact there Austrian. I personally use visual wave symmetry in the music I make and all the major music editing programs have this capability (REASON, cu-base, protools). Perfuse 73 uses this tech to great effect in his wave cutting and micro programming of vocal stuttering effects. This adds a level of realism, especially as it would seemingly tend to make the movie a proponent of the new wave of sequencing that has been the driving force for so much electronic music over the last 10 years (as apposed to plugging it all out with manual 303s and 808s or the like). I think that this movie could very well have played as a strait drama though certain changes in atmosphere and characters would be necessary. Primarily a producer like say Dabrye who is much more into the heavy base driven minimalist seen, instead of a goofy Ibiza DJ and his coke addiction manifesting itself as a violent coke-up badger (fav character in movie btw). All in all I would say this movie, especially considering the shoe string it was shot on, was a very good examination of the premise it set out to explore. It was funny and it had some soul. Good job all around.
One more thing b4 I go. We are all a product of our environments. As an American I git angry because so many of you out there have no idea what it is to live here. You dont seem to relize that the silly goofball American stereotype, callously sucking down cheeseburgers while driving our V8 ford to the drive in to try to date rape our girlfriends as were watching a Vietnam war movie followed up by a night of drinking Budweiser and commiserating what a great job Gorge bush JR is doing killing all the brown people is about as accurate as a French guy in a barrette and tights with a loaf of French bread riding a bike with a great big front wheal around the big funny looking tower. Or perhaps the English man at a cricket game drinking a cup of tea with his pinky sticking out taking about what a capital fakin job the quean is doing. ITS all Crap. It doesn’t fit the facts. And when im saying that i don’t hate you man I mean it. Just stop the silly stereotyping... all of you. It’s ridiculous. Like the poster who says most Americans can’t name a DJ who isn’t fat boy slim, yeah prob right, but we who like electronic music can and there are probably more of us then there are of you by friking exponents. There are 350 million of us here and even small subcultures are huge in comparison to countries who aren’t even the size of Texas or California. I guess that about wraps up this rant. I don’t have any last admonishments or a great big conclusion. Knock it off. It’s getting old already. There are pleanty of good reasons to dislike us, But no good reason to hate us all. Most of all nothing aplys to 99% of us

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Why do you keep saying "I don't hate you" ??? I couldn't care less if you hated me or not.

And besides, the only person that mentioned the word 'hate' in this thread is you! I think you're thick, a bit simple, uncultured and you certainly have your head up your ass. But I never said I hated you. After all - you're American - it's not your fault.

There is something amusing in the way that you analyse this film like it's a Shakespeare play - as if to prove that you understand it.

Congratufockinglations - You do indeed understand what is, lets face it, a pretty simple comedy.

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Jezz you’re angry. God I thought I was off on a jag, but you m8. You’re pissed. I keep saying I don’t hate you because I don’t. You don’t need to say the word hate because you do. And every syllable of every word drips with it, I feel bad that you’re in such a lil bubble of disgruntled petty rage. This will be my last post on this subject here. I think vie made my point as well as im going to. I don’t know what happened to make you hate so many of us you never met and know nothing about. But I do hope that as you use us to focus your anger that perhaps it won’t grow to define you. And as sad as it is to say there is a long queue of little boys in lotsa little counties who hate us, one more, while far from alleviating the problem, does nothing to worsen it. Look, just take one thing away from this discussion. You can’t hate what you do not know, so ask yourself what you really know about us. IS it first hand or did someone tell you to hate. Maybe we aren’t as different as you have been lead to believe

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I think its the self righteous psychobabble thats annoying

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Take the time to read "hero_antagonist's" posts. The points he's making are fair and valid.

Some of the posts on here have been insultingly vague genralisations. All the fella is saying is not all Americans, just like the British, are the same.

Not only that, but he has been polite and respectful.

I'm as English as they come (born in Westminster hospital, grew up in Pimlico), and I find it wearisome that, as countries, we still have these exchanges.

There are greater goals to work towards.

Yes, Bush is a semi imbecilic, warmongering knobwit.

Blair is a qualified barrister. To have that level of academic skill, yet follow blindly into an illegal war, is as bad if not worse?

C'mon people, it doesn't matter what country you're from, a film is a film. If one was made about Tom Paine, who was English, I get the feeling a whole lot more Americans would know who he was than we would.

Get over it.

Besides, It's All Gone Pete Tong was pretty mediocre.

Whatever. I'm increasingly realising that the IMDB message boards are just embarassing.

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thanks m8. :) . good looken out

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I just though the film was ok, with a totally mexico soundtrack.

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I actually read you postings - and I find your points are valid and true, to a large extent. Btw, I am from Norway, and I am glad to find out that not all Americans thinks Bush are a swell guy. Yes, stereotypes are in most cases misleading, the human experience is more complex than a few words can express.

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Uh, i know americans like to take credit for everything invented, but Bell was indeed a Scot, and though he studied in the States for a period, he moved to Canada in i believe 1870, and later died in Canada in 1922. so he was more of a canadian than an american if you want to talk citizenship.

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DJing, turntablism, dance/electronica in general, certainly aren't as prominent subcultures (at least not in the mainstream) here in the states as they are in the UK. subsequently, not many people are likely to have heard of Pete Tong, or many other dance DJs, as internationally notable as they might be. we don't really have such a thing as radio one, to begin with (except through broadband streaming). that said, this movie received limited release in the US, and its probable that the people who did go to see it had some interest in independant film, music, and british culture. so it seems a brash, elitist, frankly obnoxious generalization of this INCREDIBLY wide and varied population to ask a question like "why does this film confuse 99% of Americans???!!!" it makes you sound like a bit of a hooligan, actually. and an untravelled one at that, who really hasn't an understaning of the complexity of American culture, both musical and otherwise. furthermore, there's no need to be so fiercely nationalistic about the British dance scene - just as in the smaller U.S. cities, where bad hip-hop IS rampant in the nightclubs, many British cities play the most obtuse, provincial house music you've ever heard, written by, and performed for uneducated blue-collar wankers, who "dance and drink and screw, because there's nothing else to do" as Jarvis Cocker of Pulp once said. so, YawnPro, why don't you take a look at your own little parklife, and your own country's social commentary on itself, before you go on making generalizations about Americans.

do you know what your statements equate to? here:

*beep* NME, *beep* Doherty, *beep* Liam and Noel, *beep* Massive Attack, *beep* Kate Moss, *beep* A Guy Called Gerald, *beep* the Happy Mondays, *beep* the Futureheads, *beep* the Prodigy, *beep* Madchester and the fooking Hacienda. *beep* Steve Coogan, *beep* Twigletts, *beep* fish n' chips, *beep* the Peak District, *beep* Picadilly Circus, *beep* Primrose Hill, *beep* Johnny Lee Miller that god among men, *beep* Danny Boyle, *beep* James Bond, *beep* Flake Bars, *beep* Crunchies, *beep* sherbert saucers, *beep* British imperialism, *beep* football fanatics from Birmingham, *beep* Dover, *beep* Bath, *beep* Wordsworth, *beep* Shakespeare, *beep* Sir Francis Bacon, *beep* the queen mother, *beep* princess Di, *beep* Oxford, *beep* Charles Rennie Mackintosh, *beep* the Beano, *beep* the BBC, *beep* the tube, *beep* the Chelsea Flyers, *beep* Mr. Bean, *beep* Are You Being Served, *beep* Monty Python, *beep* Maggie, *beep* the Streets, *beep* Dizee Rascal, *beep* the pound, *beep* all queues everywhere, and *beep* your mum, you intellectual lightweight.

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I had more fun reading this thread than I had watching any movies I've seen in a long time. Thanks!

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Yo blokes, mates, and even wankers. Why the bloody hell is Pete Tong in the title? Is he Deaf? Is the film in some way about his life? I just don't quite know? In the movie his role consists of sitting and listening. And why hasn't anyone pointed out a comparison to Spinal Tap. This movie is da bomb, but I AM confused about "Pete Tong." I also DO know that he was on Radio 1 and what not.

Sorry I may not ave read most portions of some of the posts.

*beep* Ibizia. I vacation in Detroit. Peace

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"Its all gone pete tong" is cockney rhyming slang for "its all gone wrong"

the film has nothing to do with him, although he does feature in it interviewing frankie.

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Ok Ok
After some readingI think I get it now. I get the Cockney slang part. Is Pete Tong that notoriously bad *beep* musically or otherwise) to enter into the UK popular lexicon of negative expression? I know a lot about most techno and house and other dance music, but I'm fairly oblivious to most trance and house trends in the UK. Could I say that something has "gone Pete Tong" when a situation goes from great to horribly awry?

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yes you can.
Pete Tong is a famous house music dj in the uk and ibiza. He has a show on bbc radio1. hes not that bad.

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Yeah, I know who Pete Tong is; but if he's not that bad, then why is his name used in a negative context; like the man is a walking trainwreck or something? The closest American expression I can think of is to "go postal," meaning to go crazy and become irrational and possibly violent. It this an apt comparison? Feel free to shed some light.

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there is no reason. tong just rymes wrong. thats it!

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http://www.fun-with-words.com/crs_example.html one of many sites that has examples. Watch the movie "Green Street" for a quick immersion in the speaking style. I have to admit while American sub-culture slang can be colorful it tends to minimalistc and direct, single word exchange. E.g. "I got wicked spun at the casa last night" equates to " I got really high(spun specific to amphetamines) at home last night". Each word being changed out for a slang term. Cockney rhyme slang is a substitutional cipher based on single word replacement from a more complex rhyme set. E.g. *beep* m8, we're in Barney" equates to *beep* m8, were in trouble". Now instead of a simple substitution the term Barney is in reference to the rhyme slang "Barney Rubble" (Hanna Barbara cartoon charter). Trouble rhymes with Rubble and the subsequent word replacement is the non rhyming counterpart Barney. This may seem simplistic in form but is a very ingenious coding that allows someone in 'the know' to understand while leaving others stumped as to meaning. This is what is known as an "immersion cipher", referring to the code being imbedded in a set of unrelated terms that are not present in the current word set, but are known to the people using the code. It is quite complex and is very difficult for outsiders to understand.
Since first posting on this thread I began to look into this sub-culture rhyme slang and it is very ingenious and wikid fun to try to emulate. I began Downloading interviews with British artist who talk in this style and it is very fun to listen to, but renders the actual topic of the interview almost undecipherable. I have tried to find an American slang that is as involved and there is just nothing that come anywhere close to the complexity and need for shared background information (rhyme sets). It makes the inner city coding of adding "izel" to words or hip hop single word substitution look ridiculous in comparison.
IF there is anyone from the UK still reading this thread, What I would really like to know is if this complexity is a recent development or if Cockney has always been this intricate. My favorite style of Cockney was always the dialog used in Kubrics "Clockwork Orange". IF you can, tell me if that style of speaking was really in common usage and if it was accurate in inflection and content. To Whit did anyone actually talk like that? It wasn’t a rhyme slang but a single word substitution slang, but fakme it flowed like a *beep* Anyway I guess that most who use rhyme slang probably know little about slang from 37 years ago, but if you live in the UK you probably have a better idea about it than I do.

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in short

cockney has been around since the 19C and was, as you suggest, was originally to foil outseiders especially police spies and narks who might overhear nefarious plans.

whereas the argot in CO according to wikipedia

"...contains many words in a slang dialect which Burgess invented for the book, called nadsat. It is a mix of modified Russian words, English slang and words invented by Burgess himself. It serves two functions, firstly Burgess, while wanting to provide his young characters with their own register did not want to use contemporary slang, fearing that this would "date" the book too much. Secondly, the novel graphically describes horrific scenes of violence, which would be shocking even by today's standards, so nadsat is used as a "linguistic veil" to distance the reader from the action on the page."

there's a nice piece on it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadsat

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ok. to put it simply (people seem to be giving realy long-winded replys to this)

1) This is a mockumentary - Frankie Wilde never actually exixted
2) The DJ in the movie is the fictional charachter Frankie Wilde - not Pete Tong
3) Its All Gone Pete Tong is Cockney rhyming slang for: it's all gone wrong with reference to the Real Pete Tong (it's meant to be funny)
4)the real Pete Tong is actually a Radio 1 DJ - and he didn't go deaf!


I wish I could think of something witty to put here... but I can't.

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for serious. this is hillarious.

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WELL SAID gunknifebattleyo Yawn wanted some attention and and to stir things up. We have to just learn to ignore the ignorant...

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Thank you for you candid response. Its sad that we live or rather still live in a world where ignorance is taken seriously or as truth. Yawn Pro has a small mind, he probably has neve even been to the States or has even been out of his country. Thanks for your posts and your intellegent responses to these simplistic minds, and representing us as a people. I could not have said any of it better.








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Yeh and who was it that invented the internet?...Tim Berners Lee (British), you prove the stereotype of americans being ignorant when you start believing they invented everything, idiot.

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TBL designed HTTP and HTML. Ie, "the web." The Internet predates the WWW by, what, something like 20 years. Good try, tho.

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you spelled embarrassed wrong. You can edit it but it will show in the time stamp.

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YawnPro, I'm pretty sure your real name is Kevin and you wear a track suit.

Pfft. Bloody wanker.

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This thread has gone way off topic, so I'll try to get back on track...

I still think it's funny that many people think that this film is about a guy called Pete Tong. I've read lots of reviews that start along the lines of: "This film is the story of a DJ called Pete Tong, a real British DJ who goes deaf, he's still heard today on BBC radio". I'm sorry, but not knowing who Pete Tong is in "real life" is no excuse for this madness... Frankie is clearly the main character of the film, his name is frequently said, and since the "real" Pete Tong only appears as a cameo briefly once in the film, this shouldn't cause confusion about the direction of the plot and the main characters involved.

In defence of my American friends, it's clear that this confusion is less likely to occur in the UK because Pete Tong is more well known. However, those outside the UK should remember that despite Pete Tong being fairly popular here, most people only listen to him on the radio, or CD. He's not often on mainstream TV. So many (most?) of those in the world that DO actually know who he is, DONT know what he looks like! And they don't know his life story. But they do still seem to understand the film okay... and the fact it is about a guy called Frankie.

I'll refrain from questioning intelligence, but I do think it is bewildering that people are confused by what is a pretty simple film.

Explanations/Comments appreciate... but no more irrelevant politics, please.

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ya those guys are pretty funny, fighting that way. btw, the coke animal was a badger! i thought that was hilarious

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I'll explain the confusion as best as I can. I am an American woman who has been going to clubs and listening to electronic music for about 8 years. I have heard of Pete Tong and even have several Radio 1 mixes on which he appears as the radio DJ over the people spinning the music.

Last night my friend came over and told me that he had just watched this movie called "It's All Gone Pete Tong". He said that it was about this British DJ that goes deaf but continues to be able to DJ by seeing the beat. I was like, "Wow, I had no idea that Pete Tong was deaf! That's crazy!" I could not have told you whether Pete Tong actually spun music, or if he was just a radio announcer. He did not say anything about Pete Tong being the main character, but by the title I assumed that it was the case. I also had no idea that it was a mockumentary.

When I thought about it, I began to think that maybe Pete Tong wasn't the main character because, inferring from the title, it sounds as though the main character is telling Pete Tong that he can no longer hear.

Now that I know that the movie is neither about Pete Tong, nor any other real person, it makes much more sense. And I do get the whole Cockney jargon word replacement thing, but I don't think I could ever even attempt to try it myself.

Now, my friend who saw the movie is very into electronic and especially UK jungle, but I don't think that he realized that the movie wasn't about a real person, and he is very intelligent. The reason that "99% of Americans" don't get it is because less than 99% of Americans listen to any form of electronic music. The most electro they get is Moby or Madonna. When my friends try to DJ some electronic records out at a club, mostly they get the response, "Can you play that new 50 Cent song?" People are just narrow minded, and I don't think that it is because they are American. It's just a relatively new genre of music over here and many peole that do like it are embarassed to say so because most people think that it's just "squacking and bleeping."



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I don't listen to Electro music and I got the film straight away.In fact I even missed the first 20 minutes and still got the film.it is not even considerably confusing and only those that do not have any clue at all about the phrase "it all gone Pete Tong" should be spared of their blushes.

People who keep going on about electro music can shut up,it don't matter whether you like it,listen to it or buy it,it is just part of the holiday,spanish,raving theme of the film.

Lastly,yeah I enjoyed the film.

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