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Devastating, heartbreaking, and the title is ironic


There are so many conversations on this board that are trying to make this movie into some kind of Hitchcockian thriller. It's like the overanalytical comments during the televised book discussion that Georges hosted in the movie. The movie isn't a thriller, it's about colonialism, privilege, and not being able to see what's right in front of your nose. Also about the cluelessness and paranoia of oppressors who accuse the less privileged of ruining society.

Georges tells Anne he thinks he knows who's stalking them, then he refuses to say who. He is clueless that there is anything at all wrong with this. He is incapable of putting himself into her shoes to see why this could drive her crazy. Then he tells HER, "Do you realize how crazy you sound?" Later he apologizes to her again. She says,"You think that makes everything OK?" It's like trying to atone for centuries of genocide by saying, *beep* happens." His attitude is, life goes on and what can you do about it? Yes, life goes on. People slit their own throats all the time, don't they.

Georges stumbles out into the street between two parked cars without looking, then accuses the black cyclist of running into him.

Georges' mother wanted to adopt Majid, which Georges made sure did not happen. He deliberately ruined Majid's life. Majid grew up in a French orphanage for Albanians, who were treated like dirt. When Georges goes to Majid's flat for the first time, he sees a small, cramped low-income hovel. That was the life Majid was consigned to and he could never hope for anything better. George has no idea that he had anything to do with that. In George's mind, that's where Majid belongs. Majid says to him, "You haven't changed a bit." In other words, Georges once was and still is a sadist who can do whatever he wants and has no idea he's hurting anybody, just like when they were kids and George accusing Magid of killing the bird to scare HIM. Paranioa, self-absorption, clulessness. Just like all the rest of the entitled of the earth.

Majid's son said to Georges, "Go ahead, hit me. You're stronger than me." The same words Majid used when Georges first came to Majid's flat.

Georges has no idea how unbearable Majid's life is now that Georges has had him and his son arrested for kidnapping Pierrot. But there was no kidnapping, Pierrot just couldn't stand being at home any more. Georges has now ruined not only Majid's life but Majid's son's life as well, but he continues to think THEY'RE the guilty ones.

Why is the title ironic? Nothing is hidden, it's all right in front of your nose, but no one wants to see it. Or acts like it's nonexistent. Just keep staring at your nice piece of Parisian real estate to remind yourself that all is well.

Pierrot, the son, isn't having any. When he gets home after everyone thought he was kidnapped, remember how he wants nothing to do with his mother and pushes her away? She's part of the cluelesness. She'll just continue to hide and pretend it's all OK. He's given up on them. The blood-spewing drawing is trying to say, "Don't you see what you're doing to people?"

There's a scene at the beginning in the kitchen where Anne is setting the table and you only see her from behind. It's the point of view of an awkwardly placed camera, like a hidden camera. Pierrot made the tapes and the drawing. Or maybe Majid's son did, or maybe they did it together, or maybe they had someone else do it. It doesn't matter. They see what's hidden, what no one else can bear to face. All that happens in the final shot is you see Majid's son crossing the screen below the steps of the school. That's the revelation: Majid's son is at Pierrot's school -- they know each other. Somehow they found each other and have uncovered the truth.

There are some user reviews of this movie on IMDB that say all this much better than I did, one in particular that was posted 16 May 2005.

p.s. One of the most amazing things about this movie is that it didn't occur to me till days after seeing it that Daniel Auteuil, one of my favorite actors for decades, actually was not Georges. :)

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I really enjoyed reading your post, but I'd like to say something about the "irony of the title". Maybe hidden is not the right word, but it's also not easy to see, because the audience is distracted by the more literal events. This is a lot like what happens in the debate about national atrocities. It's not easy to discuss them because people are caught in explaining how it's not really their fault and that's not what happened and everything was really completely different and I am not a bad human and <my country> not a bad country and others are no better!

I will now end this debate with you.

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very true that it's not always easy to see.... in fact I didn't see it completely till my 2nd viewing so thanks for saying this

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yes!

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Strange to slowly grow to despise this harmless man, this victim. But each moment where he wouldn't acknowledge what he had done to Majid, wouldn't talk with his wife, wouldn't be accountable, wouldn't open his eyes, didn't have the decency to call the police (did he leave that bled out man there to be found by his son???) built and built.
Speaking of not calling the police...I thought that was an indication of how guilt and shame have been eating away at Georges through the years, adding to the warped perspective he exhibits, which makes him behave in the odious manner described above.

I mean, who doesn't call the police (or at least a private detective) when they're feeling threatened by an unknown person? People who are ashamed of something, who have something to (ahem) hide. That's how blackmailers succeed, for example.

And, yes, this also applies to countries which are in collective denial about the nefarious parts of their own history. Guilt, shame, and denial warp us.



last 2 dvds: La tarantola dal ventre nero (1971) & The Portrait of a Lady (1968)

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Good analogies, i agree with most if it.

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After seeing the movie for a third time after a few years, I'm still mystified by many aspects of the story and have a feeling that the story is deliberately obfuscated and omits far too many details that would have helped viewers make sense of the story.

Also, after reading so many responses and comments on IMDb I'm even more mystified as it seems that I've a somewhat different take on the story.

First off, aside from Mahjid committing suicide and really getting the worst outcome in the plot of all characters, my second tier sympathies actually go with George/Daniel Auteuil. Why?

Granted that he did something quite awful when he was young, but few people here seem to take into account the very young age it all happened - at 6 years old. Who can truly and well say that a 6 year old has much, if any comprehension of the implications of anything he does? Holding a 6 year old responsible for the ruined life of Mahjid is shifting the blame on the sending away of Mahjid. It was George's parents who sent Mahjid away, not Georges. They made the choice, not the young 6 year old. If they had had any doubts about what happened with the blood/chicken incident (or if it had even really happened at all) then it should have been up to them to find out more. Not to take a 6 year old's word for something serious enough to warrant being sent away. In a moral world, 6 year olds do not get blamed for such things.

Second - while not immediately obvious at the beginning when the tapes first start arriving, George's wife is more concerned the tapes might be aimed at her, for her affaire with Pierre. And she therefore immediately takes the moral high ground, gets mad with her husband and tries to brush things off as inconsequential and unimportant. Then she takes to blaming George for everything, even though he doesn't know what to make of things. Yet she already thinks the tapes are about her and Pierre. Yet she is the adulteress and George knows nothing, is even mystified at his wife's reaction.

Third, the incident with the black cyclist: George is made out to be quick to insult, but given that his family is has been receiving mysterious tapes, it is not more than normal that he is very nervous and suspicious of things. Moreover, cyclists in European cities do tend to act as if they own the moral high ground as well as all public space. Consequently they are often insufferable and thumb their noses at traffic laws not to mention common courtesy. George was absolutely within his right to be mad at the cyclist. The cyclist was being irresponsible and reckless and moreover made it a point to use his ethnicity as an unwarranted and unspoken point in intimidating George. It's true that George has a temper, but given the circumstances he was in that is understandable.

Fourth - George's boss having received a tape is now also in a position to hold that above George's head should his boss ever think it useful. And while the boss says he destroyed the tape, his tone makes it obvious he has not. Is it any wonder George is unnerved and upset at this as well?

Fifth, Mahjid's son comes to George's place of work and threatens to make a scene. And for what? Yes, his father killed himself, but I can't really see that as George's fault. George did not set everything in motion by recording the tapes. Someone else did, presumably Mahjid's son and Pierrot. Which in my eyes, makes them the guilty party, instrumental in causing a suicide not to mention potentially wrecking a marriage. If the two youngsters are indeed the instigators of the taping (which isn't all that certain in the first place), then it is they who are lacking in insight into consequences of their actions and they who are the real 'villains' of the story.

We're also supposed to think that George not recognizing Mahjid after some 40 odd years is somehow a manifestation of George's callousness and indifference. But seriously, if the last time you've seen someone is at 6 years of age, how in the world would anyone be expected to recognize them 40 years later? That is simply not a realistic expectation.

So I say it's George who's gotten the worst of it all, after Mahjid. His wife is cheating on him, someone (probably his son) is sending him tapes, his boss has serious leverage on him now, his son runs away and won't explain things afterwards, is sullen and resentful (granted, a typical state for teenagers) and because of someone else's machinations, Mahjid commits suicide in front of him and he has to contend with the police as well. And no one likes to have to explain things to the police. That alone would be enough to give a person bouts of extreme anxiety.

All of the above is enough to make any man irritable and nervous. No wonder poor Georges just crawled into his bed at the end and pulled the covers over his head, hoping that maybe everything would go away when he woke up again. He didn't have one bit of control over events. What else could he have realistically done? He is a victim of events set into motion by someone else.

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I liked your comment. I think, it is a good counterbalance to the genocide-national guilt angle of view, that so many comments present. Not that this does not also apply to the movie. But, i also find, this is not the primary thing to extract from this movie. Which is again, something that characterizes all good works of art: the multiple ways of translating and perceiving them.

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Was Georges wife actually cheating? I didn't catch that (although i had to pause the movie a bunch of times and get back to it) Did i miss something? I mean, i got that she had a close relationship with her boss (mostly) and his wife but i didn't know if there was actual proof besides her confiding in him at the restaurant/shop.

Genuinely asking if i missed something here.

I read this in a chola accent.

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That's the thing with the whole movie. We never really, definitely know much of anything. There is so much hinting at things, showing circumstantial happenings that are often ambiguous and at first sight seemingly contradictory. And there are so many multiple interpretations possible.

When the tapes first arrive, George's wife is upset and seemingly mad at George. Why? Maybe because she is afraid it has something to do with her affair, or maybe that George, like herself is also having an affair and that the tapes are a beginning of blackmail. Whatever she thinks though, she never seems worried about her son, which i thought odd. Wouldn't that be one of the first worries in a situation like theirs? But I interpret that as guilt on her part because she only has her affair on her mind and is afraid the tapes have something to do with that.

But then again, are we as viewers 100% certain she is having an affair? Probably not as far as proof goes, but certainly as far as circumstances and reasonable interpretations go.

Which is why the movie is so challenging and multi-layered and maddeningly hard to pin down.

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"Moreover made it a point to use his ethnicity as an unwarranted and unspoken point in intimidating George". How did he do this?

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He had complete control, and always did. He was always a privileged man. He just saw himself as a victim in any given situation.

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