Not to sure myself, i'm sort of thinking the B-Cell termination order was activated when Yuji communed with the Earth. It was the only way to cut the population of the species to sustainable levels without the Earth creating a new form of the Blue.
shareso that means that only the people on earth are the only living people now?
shareI never understood that part in the show. To me that was the defining WTF????
moment of the series.
Oh yeah one thing that might be even more of a WTF moment
would be all those people having sex all over the spacship and the slutty
way that the women acted ( they let anyone feel them up without giving it a
second thought or even noticing.
Also am I mistaken or was there somebody getting a casual blowjob
when marlene was talking with that guy on the spacestation????
At times I thought I was watching a hentai movie. I like both genders of
anime. But it just came accross as weird when they put those elements
to a series that was supposed to be regular anime not hentai.
I gave this series a 2 out of 10 stars for three reasons
1: They kept killing characters off in each episode and bringing in new ones.
2: The weird hentai theme scattered throughout the series.
3: And the ending where everyone went nuts and blew up the ship.
How do you rate this series compared to others? Did you like it more
than another series or do you consider it the worst of the lot.
Here is my list of my personal anime collection and how many
stars I gave them. I am counting TV series and movies combined for each
series. Here's the ranking.
1: The Big O 8 stars
2: Cowboy Bebop 8 stars
3: Final Fantasy (games 1 through x-2) I give the series a combined 8 stars
4: Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 7 stars
5: El Hazard 7 stars
6: Martian Successor Nadesico 7 stars
7: Tenchi Muyo 7 stars
8: Transformers (G1 season 1-victory) 7 stars
9: Ah My Goddess 7 stars
10: Dragonball (DB-gt and the movies for a combined) 7 stars
11: Evangelion 6 stars
12: Slayers 5 stars
13: Outlaw Star 5 stars
14: Blue Sub 6 5 stars
15: Airbats 5 stars
16: Gunsmith Cats 5 stars
17: Inuyasha 4 stars
18: FlCl 4 stars
19: Gasaraki 3 stars
20: Blue Gender 2 stars
I just started watching Inuyasha I have seen the first four volumes
and I have four more DVDs to watch. I always start my ratings at 1
star went I am watching a new series. So far it looks to be pretty good, at
this rate I would probably give it up somewhere between a 6 and 7 stars.
I don't rate higher than an 8 because only the fanatic fans give something a 9 out of 10 and the 10 star rating is so played out I don't even consider it on
the charts.
The only animes I liked less than Blue Gender were most of the DB movies and a
couple of the Slayers movies.
Hmm, my ranking would be along these lines
1: Evangelion 9 Stars
2: Cyber City 9 stars
3: Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children 8 Stars
4: Space Advenbture Cobra 8 Stars
5: Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 7 stars
6: Escaflowne 7 stars
7: Martian Successor Nadesico 7 stars
8: Zone of the Enders 7 stars
9: Ghost in the Shell 7 stars
10: Dominion Tank Police 7 stars
11: Ninja Scroll 7
12: Teknoman 7 Stars
13: Macross Plus Movie 6 stars
14: Akira 6 stars
15: Guyver 5 stars
16: Angel Cop 4 stars
17: Excel Saga 4 stars
18: Lensman 3 stars
19: Bio Hunter 2 stars
20: Urotsukidoji 2 stars
"God is Dead and no-one cares"
i liked Blue Gender a lot. i just want some theries on the ending that's all.
and i'd give it a 9
here are some animes i want to give ratings:
Berserk: 10
Blue Gender: 9
Neon Genesis Evangelion: 10
Ghost in the Shell: 8.5
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence: 8
Akira: 8.8
Ninja Scrol(the movie): 7
Right now I am working on Inuyasha, I want to finish this series completely
before buying any more DVDs, I still need to go back and buy up the rest
of Dragon Ball, I was getting kinda bored with the series and lost interest in
anime all together about 8 months ago.
I just recently got back into it. I was caught up with the Transformer collecting.
I picked up Optimum Online about two months ago and saw Vandread on Starz. Now
I am hooked on this series too. It's kinda like Nadesico, but the space
graphics are actually good for computer made, I don't care for much of any
digital Anime.
I would give Vandread a 5 star rating, on a scale of 1 to 8. I have only seen
about 8 complete episodes.
Anybody else here seen Vandread? What is your ranking on this series?
well I have to disagree with you on your 1st point that killing so many characters is bad, I think it was good to finally see a series where is not everyone immortal, at least you don't know what will happen next
and it's quite logical, they were normal people and they were in war and as you probably know, people are dying in wars ;)
"Not all who wander are lost." -J.R.R.Tolkien
"LOTR, loved by millions, hated by few."
True, it's a change of pace to have a series that doesn't end
with everyone okay. Or with a happy ending. Like Evangelion, that
ending was kinda depressing for the series to me, but Eva was
as close to real life problems as you can find in anime.
I wouldn't say Blue Gender sucked by a long shot. As a series
it scored the lowest rating on my personal tastes, mostly because
of the forgetable characters, those akward sex scenes, and the quite
dialouge. Trying to watch this series at 2 in the morning is a pain.
Gotta keep working the Vol when their talking and then turn it down
when the fighting breaks out.
RahXephon 9 stars :-D
"God is Dead and no-one cares"
rahxephon is stupid. GANTZ rapes it then throws it in hell.
shareThat clone of the best show of all time!(Eva)
Gantz and Evangelion soooooooo crush the hella-crap out of that show!
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"RahXephon is bloody FANTASTIC!
RahXephon is everything Evangelion wanted to be: a brilliant anime show.
And don't get me started on the whole "rip-off" bullcrap. I've argued enough about that.
Don't get me wrong, I love Eva. But I do think it's highly overrated."
Evangelion and sex ARE highly overrated. People tell you how great they are but they never really know why that is. Well I have experienced Evangelion and I could write a multi page paper about the brilliance of that show(I did for my graduating senior project, an anime topic got me an A+! It was too easy with the content in the show.)
I have seen RahXephon 1-12, and even the fans in the anime club have to admit it is a ripoff(a Rei clone comes to mind). My own research reveals that the director was trying to make a better Evangelion. He failed. And all we have is a highly overrated, but gorgeous-looking clone show. I plan to finish to see their take on "tuning the world", but I think it's just going to be an End of Eva remix.
Remember the scene where the detective told the other guy at the bar about how his dad gave him the knife and then died? That was the most useless thing I have ever seen animated!!
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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"Uh... By the way, isn't this supposed to be a Blue Gender board? Why are we arguing about Eva and Rah? Rather off topic... "
Some Rahx fanboy gave a 9 star rating to that piece of crap. That's how we got here.
I finished RahXephon, it ended exactly like the End of Evangelion!!(like I couldn't see that coming from ep 6 <_<) And the more episodes I went through it was exactly like NGE!! They didn't even explain the endings of some episodes because they wanted to begin with parallel Eva openings!! It surpassed homage to become plagerism. But they made everything more PC and pretentious.
And I have watched a lot of historical films, indie films,foreign films, and animations, and Evangelion was one of the most complicated plots ever delivered successfully. If you didn't quite appreciate it, that's understandable, it didn't spoonfeed.
Now if Evangelion hadn't existed, RahXephon would still be the horrible pile of lameness it is.
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RahXephon#Comparisons_with_other_anime
Evangelion Lite LOL. That's exactly what I said when I finished.
Those people definitely watched the show. I knew RahXephon was trying to accomplish something big. It just failed horribly.
And I understood the references to the art work and Mayan-based literature. Too bad they never finished each episode arc to piece together an epic story. It was really the constant homages to Evangelion that pissed me off(and the reviewers who discussed it with the media)
FLCL made homages to Evangelion and other pop culture icons, then goes on to deliver it's own coming-of-age story(that's what Evangelion truely was).
COMPLETE WITH MUSICAL WEAPONS that have much deeper significance than those from RahXephon!(notice as RahX continues he uses every weapon BUT is voice <_<, and when it is used, it accomplishes the same as the transcendant Eva 01/Shinji/Rei=bend the world to the will of a child destined to be there to define Humanity. I felt sick.)
That's how I know this show is a failure. FLCL covers the sexual frustrations, and dangers of a kid with his personal world all messed-up by manipulative characters, and it doesn't leave you with cliffhanger endings, AND continues the "Evangelion camera-style"(the now-legendary eyeshots, artistic stills of landscape, characters actually have varied/ordinary expressions, organic mech design, down-to-Earth brawls with those mechs, narrative on Life, having the camera shots from very personal/1st-person perspectives.
RahXephon sampled from that style only, when it was making a point of accentuating an homage from NGE! After that the scene choices are impersonal and quite forgettable.
FLCL pays homage. RahXephon is downright plagerism.
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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Escaflowne and Evangelion...related. LOL Those are fanboys.
Gundam(and the plethora of its series) and Evangelion....barely overlap on anything, maybe 0080 and Mobile Suit.
Evangelion and RahXephon....Chobits and DearS, Inuyasha and Fuushi Yuugi, Evangelion and Space Runaway Ideon. It's obvious these shows are related!(unless you suffer from Freudian denial)
Face it noobs, a whole new generation of anime is being created based on the ones before.
Even Evangelion's concepts were based on Space Runaway Ideon, Ultraman, and Mobile Suit. Hideaki said so. And RahXephon's director said his was based on Evangelion.
He also made references to FLCL and Cowboy Beebop, which is understandable because he worked on thos projects, just like Anno worked on Mobile Suit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion
A little research really helps make you guys look less like idiots.<_<
And I just found this site too, a couple years ago I had to find this info from the recorded interviews with Hideaki. So be grateful, you have it easy.
That doesn't matter anyway, because RahXephon's execution of it's plot was anticlimactic. I was expecting to be wowed by some directing skill. Last Exile AND FLCL had gorgeous graphics, but they held my interest based solely on the information presented. That's what great shows demonstrate, "control of sublety".
Did you guys see the fights in RahX, they were so predictable, if RahX gets in trouble(even though it was never severely damaged by those sex toy Angels), pull out another weapon from Brave Raideen. It was as tense as seeing the Gundam pilots slaughter wave after wave of Zakus.*yawn* Maybe one day they will make it standard that children pilots will be afraid to fight, hurt, and die, but with RahX being popular(among DBZ lovers). It's back to cliche.
And this gem:
-I still remember Mishimi pulling a stone spike from Ayato's throat and the "pilot chair" rising from a lake behind him. All this, while RahX is being pulled into another dimension(Eva fight btw). Ayato wakes RahX whips out a sword, he slices he dices, spike reference is never done again-
I was livid! And every ep had one of these WTF!(ambiguous) moments.
Without the ripoff scenes from Eva no one would have guessed what RahX was trying to accomplish. Everyone would just call it a pretty mech show, with a time machine ending. And that's what it was. No loose ends in RahX,though, they just blow them all into time for Ayato's Instrumentality(meeting his chick).<_<
In Eva, 'Instrumentality of a God' is cancelled for honest 'Individuality'. Whoever wants to be responsible enough to come back, can, it is up to each viewer to judge based on their previous behaviour. Subtle and open-ended = talent.
A show that actually gives Eva a run for it's money is Macross Zero(also from the creators of Cowboy Beebop). It oozes directing talent,even while using the now-popular "Ideon" concept. Not to mention being more gorgeous than both, combined.
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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"I'm sorry but this post was meant to be a civilized logical discussion... If MDwigs was here and not these foul mouth children.
I'm not going to quote everything you've said.
This applies for all of you.
Please forgive me for my SPelling Errors, my OpiNions, and my OBVIOUS inferior intellect to you.
From My inferior Intellect I mistakenly said that, you bash eva...
When I meant to say is that everytime A civilized topic is made on Comparing RAH - XEPHON to Eva YOU IMMEDIATELY BASH the Original Poster!
Not Eva but Start spouting Offensive Foul mouth dictum indicating the SUPERIORITY of your opinions since obviously the poster has never seen Evangelion or Rah Xephon?
Not one of you have countered against my examples...
You've only insulted and demeaned me.
That 3line person should be the last person criticizing me... He knows that BARBEM created the dolems... ANd Selee created the MP EVA's... to form a new world
3line said Barbem and the old man, created Kamina and Maya (mom) to implement the song of rah Xephon...
Selee and Keel/Gendo used Shinji and Yui to implement the human instrumentality project"
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Not to mention a Mod had to come into that thread and said the same things I have stated in this thread. That thread basically proved how noob RahX fanboys are.
That link just proved my point. If Rah fans don't bash anyone who notices that it was made by an Eva fanboy, then they just saw and the plot points in Eva were merely for show or didn't mean anything. O_O
Plot points based on people's life work, the scientific community's data, religious icons for millenia, and Hideaki Anno's life. And he did it with his own directoral style that made them seem original and tense.
Anno was right, children in the future generations will be PC, spoonfed losers.
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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I got to page 5 and the Mod intervened and restated his opinion 3 times(because of Rah flamers). You did not get very far.
The RahX fans were completely assinine in that thread. There are professional reviews from multiple sources that compare RahXephon to Eva and Raideen. That was my point, this show was ridiculous in it's own right, and then people realized it was stealing too heavily on other shows.
Kyrakasa was dead on. He might not have known how to describe it, but the Rahx fans made sure he never figured out. All they scream is that it isn't a clone, when countless scenes and dialogue can be summarized by naming the ep of Eva it belongs to. Or the character, or the dialogue, or the building designs, the secret conspiracy arc(not just any conspiracy either the SEELE with their ancient text that leads to Godlike power and leading the Fall of Man from dark religiously-inscribed rooms where cloning of certain superior technologies is order, etc., etc..),(The mech designs were definitely from Raideen, except for the trademark moves of Unit 01). You just can't do this with only similar shows. Chobits/DearS, Fuuishi Yuuigi/Inuyasha, Trigun/Trinity Blood, Saikano/Kimi Ga No Ein, Evangelion/RahXephon. All of these shows are examples of marketing departments watering-down the originals for a new, more "delicate" generation.
Yes I kiss Anno's butt, he restated what Freud, the Bible, and Japanese old-school culture has been saying about Humanity. And he didn't botch the job. And it turns out those old teachings are right so I am on their page of philosophy because it is valid.
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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i don't know if this was addressed or not (because I'm not reading all of this sh!t lol)but as far as the sex goes i mean the people are stranded in space and they are battle weary. i mean they should be at least allowed the simple pleasures of casual sex.
as far as the ending goes I'm assuming they got tired of being cooped up in space.though i think the destruction of the station is accidental though.
They were allowed the pleasures of casual sex. But eugenics were a factor in the choice of the evacuees.
The destruction was the activation of the B-cells(the ones "Mother Nature" was using to rebalance the ecology of Earth). it had to remove the old-thinking hierarchy.
Moving our RahX debate to:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364863/board/flat/25017408
I regret nothing. ]:)-
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Hardy harr harr. Note how the reviewer who called it "Evangelion Lite" also
a) Said RahXephon was pretty good - not the pile that you seem to think.
b) Had just watched the first DVD, that is the first five episodes, when writing the review.
c) Does not deserve to have the Blue Gender board filled up with Eva drama, and neither do the rest of us. I see that you two seem to have found peace with each other on the RahXephon and Eva boards - good. Please keep it that way. OK?
For the record, Yes RahX is a rip-off (which is a hard word, but justified, to say that it was created to surf on the wave of EVA's popularity)
Yes, it evolved differently once the makers felt they'd have the base elements to appeal to the EVA fans
Yes it has some merits and is overal pretty good
No, it isn't quite as good as EVA, far from it. But in any case, it's a matter of taste eh?
EVA: 9.5 /10
RAHX: 7.5 / 10
Now, back to the main question.
As we could see, Nature reacted to the Human "problem" (surpopulation, polution, etc.) by creating the Blue.
Like many counter-reactions, it went way too far, nearly eradicating entirely the humans. My feeling is that Nature's "plan" was to use Bridges (Sleepers) between the Human specie and the Blue in order to somewhat control the amount of devastation caused by either species.
Humans, trying to control what they couldn't understand, decided to put all the carriers of the Blue Gene in suspended animation. This is, imho, why the counter reaction went that far.
This being said, the ending (Humans fighting for power and control over the survivors and their destiny on the space station) reminds us that even in the darkest hours, humans can and will turn on each other if the occasion presents itself.
So ... The Blues goes back to sleep, waiting for another sur-representation of the human gender, while the amount of human survivors is probably about a few hundred thousand on the planet, probably thanks to the Sleeper program...
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Dammit, this is the Blue Gender board. Go complain/rant about the other anime series in their own forums, respectively. Not that I am trying to sound rude, (even if you do take it that way), I just want you all to stop arguing about whats better and all that crap. Who cares? If someone likes one anime better than the other, let it be. People are entitled to their own opinions, and others don't have to start questioning them just to prove something. It really was amazing to see how a topic entitled "what happened in the end?" got turned into a Rax./Eva rant topic. (Note: this isn't directed at you elandyll, just at the two others.)
shareHey, at least the 2 main characters survive and have a baby together, and tehre will be plenty of people for the new baby to be chums with.
Unlike certain other anime I could name **Cough saikano**cough**Evangelion** this series end swith hope for humanity.
You missed the point of the sex scenes, it was a reflection or look on modern society and the liberal approach to sex and the age that people have sex, while if you go back a few years people didn't show public affection as openly as they do now, and now even more liberal with what we see on tv and what we think is acceptable, this is how things progressed, and if you notice during the scenes the dark mood lighting and music wise, it's like a reflection of what society has come to, the main characters eventually turn away from this knowing it's not right. It's just another aspect to what makes an amazing series, throughout the entire series there are looks at our society morally etc, all that make it very interesting, that is of course if you can see past the basic 'there's giant bugs eating people' I guess it was lost on some people, their loss
shareIn fact, maybe not. There were 2 other space stations orbiting the Earth, training and mining station - but I presume people there went berserk as well.
So far, these opinions have been voiced (summing up, coz a lot of the thread is spilled over by a fanboy argument RahX vs Evangelion):
GarbageFanUK and Lusulpher think people shot themselves out suite to a B-cell activation in order to actually limit the human population to those left on Earth. Second, it could be actual removal of the "old" generation.
The_Urban_Prince sustains it was rather accidental - some kind of space rage.
Elandy II understands the morale as "that even in the darkest hours, humans can and will turn on each other if the occasion presents itself".
* I personally now tend to subscribe to GarbageFan's and Lusulpher's point of view, thus interrelating the energy beams "leaving" the Earth into outer space and the space rage being sent as the last memento of the Earth (for the time being). For me, it gives just the opposite of the harmony created by Yuji and Marlene and thus creates a lasting impression at the end of the series. People on Second Earth actually start to behave like the Blue on Earth - remember the scene from the early episodes where 2 beetle tanks crash into each other like deer in the mating season? But in this, armed people are just so much more efficient.
* When I try to recall the scenes, although it is very quick, people become mad in several steps - could it be a lapse of epic time indicating what has become of the many people trying to make the orbital station their new home without the Earth as their alternative?
* Perhaps is it really a fight of power that has erupted among Miyagi's loyal personnel and the other military who've lost their primary occupation?
* In fact, I think it was only a part of the armed personnel who'd gone berserk - there is a scene of people trying to flee in a spacecraft - probably not making it due to intense shooting.
Isn't this a Blue Gender topic?
Whats with all the talk on Evangelian?
Best Anime EVER!!!! = COWBOY BEBOP
Also I thought that the reason that everyone killed each other on second Earth was due to the fact that teh guy that was in charge, Miyagi, had created a boring and pointless existance for everyone on board the station.
So when everyone goes crazy due to nothing to do, they rebel against the one that made it that way. Destroying themselves in the process.
What he said. In fact, there's a hint of this in ep. 24, where you hear two soldiers talking about how weird it is not to have a mission to carry out.
Take away people's occupations, and remove the hope of someday returning to Earth, and it's not really surprising that you'd end up with a rebellion.
I like videogames. I like movies. In the name of both, Uwe Boll must be stopped!
I just felt like the anime killed off characters just for the sake of the act. There are other ways of writing characters out of shows besides death. It started to feel like crop rotation almost, lol.
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Here are my two cents regarding the ending:
I don't really think that the people on the space station went crazy. After their new leader decided it would be better to leave the earth for good most people lost their purpose. I mean most people (probably about 80%) were working for the military in one way or another. Soldiers, mechanics, medics, trainers, supervisors ect. However now they were not needed anymore. What kept them going was that they A) had a purpose, a job and B) that they were all together working torwards one goal: to kill the Blue and return to the earth.
Yes, the ending was rushed, however once some started to revolt everything ended in a massacre, because of course some didn't know what was going on, so they stuck to their orders and others didn't wanna leave. Of course most wanted to return to earth so they had to fight over the last remaining shuttles.
I'm not sure though about what Yuji did. Yes, he did see how the B-Cells and the humans could co-exist, but how exactly that is going to work is beyond me. Also when all the Blues basically dies, why wouldn't Yuji die aswell?