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Suzie- too perfect, Angelica- too bastardized?

posted 20 years ago by VIETgrlTerifa
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I'm procrastinating on an essay I'm supposed to be doing, so I thought I would post something that gets on my nerves.

Does anyone else think they over-do the character of Suzie in this show? Yes, she's talented, nice, and has a good personality...but geez, enough already. There is nothing wrong with this character at all. It seems that Suzie is ALWAYS in the right, and they use Angelica just to show it off. In the show, everyone absolutely adores Suzie and kiss the ground she walks on.

To me, the camp episode was what made it way over-the-top. Let's recap. Everyone thinks Suzie is robbed of the lead, and they had to make Angelica 100 percent talentless just to show off how good Suzie is. She then saves the horrible show from being really awful, and some weirdo adults who are watching a show at this camp want to ask Suzie for an autograph while not even humoring Angelica. They even go the extreme to give Angelica an evil look as if she's done something horrible to them...other then being bad in a bad show.

I was just wondering if anyone else is just tired of the way they make Suzie absolutely perfect, while giving Angelica no breaks by making her always in the wrong. I don't know about you guys, but one of the best things about the original Rugrats was that Angelica was an extremely good schemer and that she would have gotten away with a lot of things if she was just a bit more careful. Now, she's just a superficial moron with no redeeming qualities who's plans always go wrong (even when she's not doing anything wrong...like the episode about getting rid of the cafeteria cook...she was RIGHT, the guy was AWFUL).

Anyways, just a thought on a show that really shouldn't even be analyzed that deeply, but I couldn't help it.

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[–] hEaRtBrEaKeR4197 19 years ago

Your right.

I think Suzie is a kiss up and Angelica is a beyatch.

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[–] 19 years ago

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[–] kristle316 19 years ago

yes, good people do exist, but nobody's perfect, they need to have suzie have at least one lack of perfection in her personality, or she'll end up in the running for sainthood.

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[–] Threadinator 19 years ago

Bastardized? is that a word I don't know

[–] limegreendoll 19 years ago

The only time I've ever seen Susie make any kind of mistake was the one where she thought she was getting a record deal and got scammed out of a lot of money, but even then everyone forgave her and thought it was alright and blah blah blah (if that had happened to me, my parents would be super P.O.ed at that stupid loss of money). I would love to see at least one flaw in the girl - give her hag nails on her feet or SOMETHING.

Blame Travis.

[–] night_lex 19 years ago

You know, she whould be walking along the street, and then suddenly she explodes and everyone cheers.

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[–] Stacehoney72 19 years ago

LOL! I can picture Suzie exploding, lol! I bet Angelica would be happy if that happened. >:)

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[–] Everyonelovesabrunette 19 years ago

Yeah...I agree. I used to like Suzie but now she just gets on my nerves. She's just too perfect ( I prefer Angelica's bossiness to Suzie's over the top perfection anyday!). I don't think Angelica is too basterdized I mean she is bossy but she has niceness to her as well which makes her character, in that respect, a little more likeable than Suzie. I believe the writers however seem to portray Angelica as the "bad guy(well...girl)" and Suzie as the "nice girl" a little too often in the series. I think Suzie should make at least some mistakes...

[–] Ginger87 19 years ago

I agree the writers do seem to make Susie to perfect, especially with her and her singing. For once I would like to see Angelica sing-she has gotten a lot better since the begining of the series.

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[–] CantTuchThisBLT 18 years ago

I don't agree. Every show has a perfect white, blonde, with rich family. It's strange how no1 cares when the blonde is perfect, but now a black girl is perfect. and all of you want her 2 DIE? Cut the racism and leave Suzie alone.

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[–] LilKSweezy 18 years ago

you are all just mad cuz they portrayed suzie as the perfect black girl with a slightly upper-class family who does well in school, community and pretty much everything else. if it was a white girl and her family that was "perfect" there would be no complaints at all. so all of u just shut up!

[–] MusicalParadox 18 years ago

I disagree, I do notice that Suzie is the ideal of perfection and I wish that they would give her certaint flaws, or traits that make her, her. It makes the character more real. If Suzie was a perfect blond white girl with a good rich family, I'd feel the same way towards her. The complaints are logical. On the other side, Suzie appears to be a saint, and some people appear that way to the world but when they are by themselves or at home that's a different story. They tried to make her have a flaw in one of the episodes, I think it was time management. Suzie for one is a good role model, she's perfect, get's good grades, is talented, has a great personality. The only problem is, is that she's almost a Mary-Sue. It'd be interesting to see an episode where she asks someone else for advice instead of viceversa.

EDIT (also may contain spoliers)

After watching the episode Petition This Suzie does (sort of) stoops down to Angelica's level. It's quite common in politics though... But it is a flaw, in her desire to win, or beat Angelica, or over-achieve she ruins Kimi's and Chuckie's relationship which is later mended at their parent's (10th?)aniversary celebration.

[–] Cbh218 18 years ago

Ok i understand where you are coming from but you need to rember that this show is typically for younger children, meaning that there must be a theme or lesson at the end of each and every episode... The shows make Susie the "overachiever" because it gives kids a goal of what they should try to emulate. and Angelica is typically seen as the devilish one because thats how her personality has been since she was a todler. and we mussent forget that IT IS A FRIGGIN CARTOON get over it!

[–] furienna 18 years ago

Okay, you guys need to calm down! Susie isn't even that much of a main character to make you so mad. She's not even in every episode. Yes, she's the good girl, and Angelica is the bad girl (even if she's nicer now than what she was as a toddler), but if you ever watched "Rugrats", I don't get how you could expect anything else in "All grown up".

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[–] bluebaybeach 12 years ago

i agree. plus angelica is one of my favorite characters. Susie used to be my favorite until i noticed how "too perfect" she was. -_- that type of stuff irritates me