michael bay is the greatest influence on korean cinema
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shareMichael Bay as a cultural reference is beyond a joke. Infact Michael Bay and and cultural in the same sentence is a joke. If you are looking for influences on Korean cinema outside of Korea or asia itself, it would be closer if you considered people like Hawks, Aldrich, Spielberg, Leone. Micheal Bay should stick to making ads, because a film maker he is not. He is up there with Scott(thats Tony, the one with no talent),adrian Lynn, Joel Shumacker and other Gloss merchants. Micheal Bay is one of the worst directors in the history of cinema........discuss
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It'd be nice to see a true account of the Mogadishu events one day. Maybe one of the street kids who gave the all-powerful US marines such a hard time, will write a script that gets made by a Korean director with the integrity to tell uncomfortable truths without kowtowing to military censorship.
Something that Michael Bay has yet to accomplish.
Shallowness is his artform, and he's certainly perfected it.
Re: michael bay is the greatest influence on korean cinema
by - squelcho (Wed Oct 12 2005 18:29:08) It'd be nice to see a true account of the Mogadishu events one day. Maybe one of the street kids who gave the all-powerful US marines such a hard time, will write a script that gets made by a Korean director with the integrity to tell uncomfortable truths without kowtowing to military censorship.
Something that Michael Bay has yet to accomplish.
Shallowness is his artform, and he's certainly perfected it.
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The American soldiers indeed fought heroically in that battle. As to the Somalians, they were worse than what was depicted of them in that movie.
Black Hawk Down was directed by Ridley Scott, not Michael Bay. You're posting on IMDB, funny.
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I would put Tony Scott, Ridley's brother, in a category significantly higher than Michael Bay, who, I admit is a hack with no talent. Man on Fire and True Romance, both with Tony Scott at the helm, are outstanding films.
If Micheal Bay REALLY IS the greatest influence on korean cinema, then I advocate total nuclear war on the Korean peninsula until such time as the taint of Bay no longer befouls that piece of property.
As it is, I think not. And please don't confused Jerry Buckheimer with Michael Bay, a frequent mistake. One is a mere hack, the other patron saint of all hacks and along with Paris Hilton, Ashlee Simpson and Ashton Kustner, a horsemen of the apocalypse.
If a man hears a different drummer, let him step to the music he hears, however odd or far away.
MICHAEL BAY IS FAR FROM THE WORST FILM MAKER OF ALL TIME HIS MOVIES ARE MADE TO FIT THEIR PURPOSE WHICH IS INCREDIBLY ENOUGH TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE.
THE MAN DOESNT WANT AN OSCAR HE JUST WANTS TO ENTERTAIN US AND HIS MOVIES DO THAT VERY WELL HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN CRITICS OR OSCARS AND CRAP, JUST ENTERTAINMENT!, SO WHY DOES EVERYONE FEEL THE NEED TO BRING HIM DOWN AND WHO HEAR HONESTLY CAN SAY THAT THEY DID NOT ENJOY ARMAGEDDON, THE ROCK AND THE ISLAND.
AND TONY SCOTT IS WAY MORE TALENTED THAN RIDLEY, AT LEAST HE KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP HIS CHARACTERS AND MAKE YOU FEEL FOR THEM.
ever heard of the 'Gladiator' with russel crowe as maximus?!!
shareTee hee hee.
Seriously, I'm giggling because if I don't I may explode with laughter of unhealthy proportions.
For one thing, Bay has completely copped his 'style' from Tony Scott (Ridley's lesser brother) - everything from his shot selections and camera movements, use of (bad) colored filters, pacing, right down to the way bad scoring music (often featuring a solo sax with some delay on it or acoustic guitar) is used - which has become a bit of an action movie cliche since its use in the first "Lethal Weapon". Bay is a hyper-stylized version of Tony Scott minus any sense of character development (which has never exactly been Scott's strong suit).
For another thing, any filmmaker that is heavily influenced by someone like Bay has no sense of cinema because there is nothing - not a single thing - about Bay's work that is even vaguely original. He is technically proficient and artistically bankrupt. His 2hr commercials masquerading as cinema are less substantial than the fake butter on the popcorn that you have to eat while watching his movies because when you vomit from his self-indulgent tripe you'd prefer it wasn't a dry heave.
michael bay sucks and tony scott just sucks a little less
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The American soldiers indeed fought heroically in that battle. As to the Somalians, they were worse than what was depicted of them in that movie.
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as for PRHRAY saying that the Somalians are worse than Black Hawk Down suggested, you are an idiot. having read the book Black Hawk Down and other such accounts of that day, most Somalians are devote and most did not choose sides during the civil war(even though there is a anti-american presence). instead, most people in somalia were hurt by Mohammed Fairah Aidid(sp?) and were not savages as PRHRAY remarked(and yes i do know that many somalians were carrying the bodies of dead american soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu after the battle. BUT they were very angry that many civilians and family members and many militia died during the battle)
Pretend for a second the situations were reversed...
As if Americans would NEVER be angry/aggressive enough to form themselves a mob, then drag and display the dead bodies of an invading foreign military force that had just finished demolishing a whole section of their capital city and killing/wounding/rendering homeless thousands in the meantime - all because they decided it was their place to interfere and take sides in an unfortunate country's devastating civil war by trying to capture one side's senior military commanders.
Am I the only American who understands that arrogance and hypocrisy are some of the worst, most revolting of humanity's characteristics?
What an odd statement by the OP. Most Korean films I've seen have two things that makes them different from Michael Bay works:
1. The korean movies actually have a plot and does makes sense.
2. Most koreans films I've seen are not UNWATCHABLE. Unlike Michael Bay crappy flicks.
yeah Michael Bay and Kim Ki-Duk are identical!
Despite the overwhelming pure hatred of Bay on here, I think what the OP was originally noticing was simply that Korean films tend towards the melodrama, with slow-mo, story cliches, all the stuff that you may notice in Bay's films. I don't think this is because they've been influenced by Bay, though. I live in Korea, and the whole culture over here tends towards the melodrama. The pervading sense of humor is a bit different from the West, as is the drama, and to Westerners, it just doesn't come across, but Koreans eat it up!
As to influences, another poster referenced some that Koreans may say, but I think most of them would talk about Asian directors, especially in Hong Kong cinema, or some of the classic Western directors like Scorcese, Ford, or Trouffant. Bay is far too new to have influenced most Korean directors these days, their sympathies just happen to overlap.
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