A visual poem


I liked this film very much. I don't think I have ever seen anything quite like it.

Unlike many films which suffer from an over dense screenplay, this is elemental and minimal in the extreme. There is very little in the way of traditional narrative, but the most fascinating aspect of the whole thing is what David Lynch calls "the gaze". The takes are very long (a rarity these days, when the average take is 3 seconds!). The camera is held for long periods on a single scene - often a character's face - very reminiscent of Bergman's work. This has the function of slowing things right down and concentrating the viewer's focus on motivations, feelings and thoughts. We get right inside the characters. I loved the long 360 degree camera pan outside the hotel where Ana and Marcos are making love.

The whole thing is seductive, langorously watchable. Fascinating.

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I agree, it's wonderfully realized.

I really love reading the comments that label the actors "ugly" and the sex "nasty." These preconceived views are hilariously criticized by this film, and yet you don't feel any vehemence. The film watches its subjects with a loving eye, no moral judgements, it just presents internal conflict and lets us sort it out through our own perceptions and experiences.

If you liked this film, I suggest seeking out Tsai Ming Liang's The Wayward Cloud. Also a great study of sex on film, and I could be mistaken, but Reygadas must've seen this film before making BIH because of all the little similarities. Like when Jaime is cutting up watermelon (watermelon is HUGE in TWC) and then certain camera positions and well crap, now I can't remember, there was something so obvious and now I can't pin it down. Anyway, both are excellent.

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Thanks for the tip. I shall check it out.

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He's absolutely right. The wayward cloud is another visual poem for us.

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In my opinion this movie uses sex as bait to deliver the hook of social commentary against religion and its influence in Mexico (and most of latin america). If you grow up in a latin american country, you are surrounded by religion, opressed by the people in power (be it a democracy or a dictatorship). There really is no separation between church and state, and even in church you see the national flag flanking an image of the virgin of guadalupe. The themes are very complex and not easily rationalized by people who grew up in a neighborhood where you don't need bars on your windows and you trust that your friend won't kidnap your newborn for ransom. The culture of violence and decadence is very different when you don't have access to education nor opportunities to advance professionally. Reygada took a big chance and in my humble opinion was very succesful at depicting how ugly the world can be, seen from the 'bad guys' point of view. Its departure from 'beautiful' people (as in the traditional Victoria's Secret kind of way) having intercourse shows us something we have been programmed by our local media to discard as not-attractive. This was a very difficult movie to watch because I grew up with people in both sides of this social fence... This was a good movie.

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Having just seen Silent Light again, this time on DVD along with this movie, I have to say this movie by Reygadas moved me the most out of all of his. As for the sex. I thought it was interesting how the sex between Marcos and his wife, while they are not what would be called normally pretty, was much warmer, and intimate, than when he got together with Ana who most would say is more beautiful. As for some insane beauty: the fog shot, with Marcos wandering through it, and through himself for that matter. Stunning.

And seeing the old lady from his first flick, Japon, at the gas station was a nice touch.
Thanks for the heads up about The Wayward Cloud. I'll give it a gander!

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Yes, Tsai Ming Liang.The certain camera position was the camera angle of a sexual position that crossed over from one film into the other: at the end of the Watermelon film, the framing of Hsiao-Kang's rear-end during an intense thrusting moment matched a taught close-up frame of Ana's rear-end at the end of the bedroom sex scene, post-coital, when she's laying on top of Marcos; same framing and same intensity of focus on the same body part, and on the same crevice of that body part, both shots in both films focusing on the crevice.Character and thematic cross-overs, too - Hsiao-Kang and Marcos can't get no relief.......

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Yes, it's elemental and minimal, but if you truly want 'the gaze', go see a movie by Gus Van Sant. And as for visual poetry, no one comes near to the otherworldly beauty of Terence Malick's work.

'All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing no song' - Louis Armstrong

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I respect your opinion but for myself I think it is a bunch of crap

a cheap try to "shock" the audience with some sexual content and to get attention with some senseless 360° camera shots...

just my opinion to this movie

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Many ones like you. But it didn't try to "shock" anyone , you just took the side effect.

Maybe I love it because I didn't "shock" .Yup, I'm not that cheap .

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summoner you steal my words!

the film was only shocking to someone who thinks a man who probably isn't considered "good looking" having sex with a woman who is "good looking" shocking.

that's not the director's fault, or intention. It's yours. and rather than dislike the film for its "shock," you might want to practice some self reflection and perhaps question yourself as to what is so "shocking."

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Please tell me then, what's the point of continous shots of the guy and his wife screwing again and again? What's the message there?

"I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but hostility, chaos and murder."

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'the message' is that you don't get it.

That simple.

Why waste time on complaining how bad a film is and annoying everyone. Just stay away, don't watch it, complain somewhere else. Or watch King Kong and LOTR movies (as an earlier poster in another thread suggested as humble alternatives).

Books had instant replay long before televised sports. B. Williams

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What is it then?
Sorry but you're not enlightening people simply by just saying that "you don't get it".

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