His accent


I loved this movie. Alan is just a wonderful actor. But his accent was a lil weird. At times it sounded British then Southern. Anyone notice that?

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I noticed it. I thought it was interesting, though, to see how similar a Southern and English accent really is. I kinda liked how he talked...kept me listening.

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I've actually heard that of all the American accents, a classic Southern is the absolute closest to British. We slur a lot of the same sounds I think. Perhaps this is affected by immigration patterns? I mean, the Northern US got a much wider range of nationalities, but almost everyone whose families have been in the South for a century or two seem to be from what's now the United Kingdom.

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Does the name Ashley Wilkes (Leslie Howard) ring a bell? Same deal.

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haha, Alan's had a few movies in which he had to put on a Southern accent. I dont really like his southern accent.

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Worst accent ever. Seriously. I love Alan Rickman and think he is a wonderful actor, but honestly...come on.

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Yeah, it wasn't great. Have you heard his generic American accent in Dark Harbor? Like a slap in the face, hearing that coming from his mouth. Didn't sound like him at all. But he faded in and out in that movie, too. Gotta say, he doesn't do the most convincing accents. Not that I mind, really. It's like Liam Neeson in Next of Kin (although, if I remember correctly, his accent was decent): You just shouldn't mess with a good British or Irish accent, especially to make it *shudder* Southern. If you can help it, of course, though sometimes the part necessitates it. However, in Alan Rickman's case, I think part of the reason his accents sound so unconvincing is that he has a very distinctive voice and just general speech pattern. It's something I can't describe, but it's just that unique quality of his voice that goes beyond any particular accent and carries over into any other one he puts on. It's easy for someone with a generic voice to switch accents, but someone with something very distinct about their voice still retains that quality, no matter what accent they do, which is one reason it may sound like their fake accent's not very good, because they still very much sound like themself. I don't know if any of that made sense and I think I may be babbling now, so I'll stop.

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I haven't seen the movie yet. I don't think it's out here. But I heard his accent on the Golden Globes and I thought it was funny. LOL :D His voice was still beautiful even though it wasn't British. ;)

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I noticed that off the bat from his first line in the movie. It was just the accent that got me, he might of just went with the british accent instead. I noticed that about Alan in some of his films like Die Hard with the part when he finally met with John. He tried so hard to get that american accent down, but he just couldn't do it. Alan is such a brillant performer, but he is not used to using another accent, but I do admire him for trying. This movie was excellent I really enjoyed it. I am not suprised someone would have posted a topic about his accent in the movie.

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In Die Hard, though, his American accent was intentionally bad. It wasn't supposed to be convincing.

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Remember that in Die Hard Hans Gruber is German, so the American accent in that movie is an American accent mimicked by a German, not by a genuine American, if I understood the movie correctly.

I do have to say that it always surprises me when people complain about the accents of actors when trying to do an accent different from their own. Faking an accent has nothing to do with acting but everything to do with your natural ability to mimic sounds. Something that some people do very well and other people do very badly. In fact, most people do very badly. This is why usually when people learn a language after the age of 12 they tend to have an accent in the new language all their live, even though they may be living in the country of the second language. This is because often the sounds you need to use are not in your phonetic system anymore. Actors may be able to mimic intonation but they are often caught by using slightly wrong vowels or consonants. This is completely normal and as I said, has nothing to do with acting. I know this for myself. I've lived in an English speaking country for ten years and I can say that I'm pretty fluent. But I don't fool anyone when it comes to the accent. I always give it away that I'm not a native speaker.

And accents between different dialects of the same language can be just as difficult to fake. So focus on the actors acting but not whether or not he could do a perfect accent or not.

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I thought his southern accent was quite good...more southern gentleman than Norma Rae hillbilly...and didn't notice any "Britishism" sneaking in anywhere. Not sure what you heard.

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He was, as I recall, from Tennessee, which has a distinctive accent--like most of the South. I've grown up around DC and we don't have any discernable accent. But once when I was in Detroit, people kept commenting on my quaint southern accent. Maybe that's because we do say "you all" and they equate that with southern.

My Father was from Richmond, VA and they say their "o's" much like the Canadians. No one else in the South does that. A Tidewater VA accent is quite different from a Richmond accent.

While I can't tell a North from a South Carolina accent, I can tell either from a Mississippi or Alabama accent--and the accents of those from Kentucky, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Maybe that comes from living closer to the south (and having lived in N. Carolina and had that accent as a child).

I can also tell the difference between a French Canadian and an Parisian accent. Most of the native French speakers in the Da Vinci Code were French Canadians, not Parisians. I can even tell the difference between a Parisian accent from someone from Marseilles. Having an ear for accents may depend, at least in part, on where someone comes from. (I lived in Paris for a four months and speak French. Whatever that may mean.)

I thought Rickman's accent was charming and fit his character beautifully. I don't recall ever getting distracted by his British accent sneaking in. Next time I watch it when it comes on HBO again, I'll have to look out for that. It sounded like a Tennessee accent of a very distinctive person to me.

When it comes to accents, though, it's hard to top Meryl Streep.

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I'm from west Tennessee and I even think people in east Tennessee sound different. They are kinda different than everyone else in Tennessee. They represent the worst of Tennessee as far as I'm concerned...and the stereotype of people from TN comes from this region. Thus the term "hill billy" because they live in the Appalachian mountains. I really liked this movie because it showed how racist those yankees in Maryland are. Dr. Thomas receieved more racism in Maryland than he did in Tennessee. Which is quite evident in the movie where you hear a man say, "He couldn't have done that surgery without that n****r.". It's very refreshing to have an accurate portrayal of the way life was back then than to have it re-written like the rest of history to make northern people look like some great emancipators. When actually they are a lot more racist than they let on up north... past and present. It's a very sore spot to people like me who hear the hill billy and racist sterotype on Jay Leno and movies when I actually know more about racism and the Civil War than most yankees do. They don't teach yankee kids diddly about the Civil War but southern kids are taught very much about it. Then in some history books (written by yankees) they try to brain-wash children into being ashamed of being southern especially if you're white. They make you think that you're the scum of the earth and are white trash. But really southern people have a lot more class than yankees. We don't sleep with everyone we see like yankees do. We actually hang out with the black people we go to school and work with. Unlike yankees who would work beside a black person in a factory and never utter a word to them. I know this because a person from Illinois told me this is the way it is up there. Remember the Civil War had nothing to do with freeing black people. Most of the confederate soldiers were poor and of course didn't own slaves at all. So obviously it's not about slavery. Some people like to make us think that it was about slavery but it wasn't. I even remember a black friend of mine saying, "The Civil War was just about politics" in history class. Even though text books would try to tell him differently. I read a very interesting book called "The Real Lincoln". Look up "The Real Lincoln" and you'll find very interesting facts about Linclon and the Civil War. During the Civil War the yankees blamed the war on black people and were lynching and murdering black people left and right. Many black people moved up north looking for jobs after the Civil War and were treated worse than Irish people were back then. They did not find the relief of racism they were looking for back then. Go ahead and tell me I'm full of it. I saw this information at an exhibit at the Smithsonian Museum of American History and when the museum opens back up after construction you can see it for yourself!

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I guess no one reads about the actors. Read the details about Alan Rickman on IMDB. It states that he has a speech impedement.

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When he was a child, he had a speech disability: his lower jaw was very tight, causing his words to be indistinctive and muffled. He still has a slight speech impediment, it is the tight lower jaw which gives him his distinctive drawl.

^ this is what biscuitt is referring to I'm sure. It was really quite intersting reading about Alan on his page.

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This is from the "Die Hard" trivia on IMBD:

The scene in which Gruber and McClane meet was inserted in to the script after Alan Rickman (Hans Gruber) was found to be proficient at mimicking American accents. The filmmakers had been looking for a way to have the two characters meet prior to the climax and capitalized on Rickman's talent.

Oh, and by the way, that stuff about Rickman having a speech impediment is false. Yes, I know it's posted on IMBD and other places, that came from a so-called "biography" and Mr. Rickman himself has said it is not true.

You can hear it himself on this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIz4M1qrAG8

He talks about it at the end of the interview

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Well, the entire time I was watching this movie, I was impressed that Alan's accent made me think of a guy I used to know from Tennessee. I'm no expert on accents, but I think he did a fantastic job. It sounded pretty consistent to me. Doing accents is difficult, and I think he did better than most actors would have done.

I think there is a lot of similarity between the sounds of a Tennessee accent and some British accents, too. Someone else posted a comment on this thread that there are a number of Tennessee accents, and I know there are a zillion British accents, too.

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