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TOBY - MICHAEL’ s ABHORRENCE??

posted 5 years ago by lennonforever (2453)
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Is it EVER said why Michael hates Toby??

[–] lennonforever (2453) 4 years ago

Well, I now know why- he says “Toby is corporate “ but it’s such a riot because Michael is corporate as middle management!

[–] Sandman81 (1501) 4 years ago

When Michael says Toby is corporate, he means that Toby works directly for the corporate office in New York. Michael is not his supervisor, and he does not answer to Michael in any way.

[–] lennonforever (2453) 4 years ago

Yes I know that. And in an early episode Michael identifies himself as corporate also. Therefore , it’s ironic that Michael loathes Toby because of it 😅

[–] FilmBuff (6672) 4 years ago

I think he sees him as sucking the fun out of everything, and always pointing out when Michael breaks the rules.

[–] lennonforever (2453) 4 years ago

Yes for sure but since Michael is a big baby - he overreacts to anything Toby has to say 🤣

[–] Boricanator (1365) 4 years ago

Michael explained it pretty well himself. Below is the explanation.

https://youtu.be/aYmOqPFyJPw

[–] lennonforever (2453) 4 years ago

Yes

[–] avortac4 (3443) 4 years ago

That's not a full, or even a good explanation. That's more of Michael desperately trying very hard to NOT say 'I hate you, you !@%&*n "%#***%!!!11".

The reasons are, as far as I can tell:

- Toby is HR (and everyone hates HR)
- Toby is a 'corporate spy'
- Toby's job entails controlling Michael and spoiling his 'fun'
- Toby has no personality
- Toby is extremely wimpy and a creepy simp to boot
- Toby is extremely low-energy individual
- Toby is an easy target, as he never fights back
- Toby clearly doesn't care the way Michael does
- Toby is there just for the paycheck (no passion)
- Toby speaks and moves in a slow, agonizing, annoying way
- Toby doesn't support Michael in things important to him
- Most of the time, Toby is a buzzkill, show-stopper, and an obstacle to Michael (and nothing else)

There are probably lots of others, but these came to mind off the 'top of my head' (what a strange idiom).