Best General
Who do you blokes reckon the best general and strategy to go with them are?
I would like to learn about this stuff so i can completely destroy anyone i come across.
I know its been awhile since you posted that, but i'll reply anyway.
If you're playing online I prefer any of the GLA generals. Because they don't need any power for their bases. My strategy is to take out the other players power(if they're America or China of course)and take out they're cash supply.
Then attack their base from the sides or the back(because they're less likely to guard those sides). Build lots of tunnel networks and stinger sites around the map. But mostly put the stinger sites around your base. And of course build lots of SCUD storms.
If they're the GLA as well, then the best you can do is do all of the above except take out the power.
Well that was my strategy when I played online. And it mostly worked.
finally! i was waiting for a reply.....I think i could beat u, using da chinamen generals. i use hackers for money, so i don't rely on my trucks for money. plus the infantry general specializes in fast rushes, so he can be in ur base before u r ready for him. i'd do this, unless u choose the toxin general, in which case, i'd use da tanker general. mmmmmmmm....emperor overlords... Then i'd nuke the tar outer you. maybe. (hopefully)...
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
lol, I was beginning to think no one would reply too. I think you would have a good chance at beating me. The China Generals are harder to take down because of their ground troops(mostly the variety of tanks they have).
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mmmmmmmm....emperor overlords... Then i'd nuke the tar outer you. maybe. (hopefully)...
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How are you gonna do that without power? Like I said, I aim for their power. But like you said, hopefully
And the emperor overlords probably wouldn't last long if I use Jarmen Kell or those Saboteur dudes. But I guess it depends on how you use your emperor overlords.
Like I said, you probably could beat me.
I also use a lot of troop carriers and stealth outposts, so STEALTH BECOMES USELESS!! (i hate jarmen kell....) How would you get in my base? I use gattling cannons/tanks to defend myself. even suicide attacks don't work. i know, it's been tried. That's more with the tanker general, though.
if i was using the infantry general....i don't know. snipers are killers, but i can avoid stuff like bunker busters and toxin tractors in the re-enforced bunkers.:p. i use nuke cannons with those special shells to clear out your vehicles, like jarmen does, just with more boom. then i steal them. then i use the inferno cannons to firestorm stuff. followed by tons of minigunners and rocket troopers. mmmm....
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
"How would you get in my base?"
I don't need to get into your base. I just need enough time for my SCUD storms to complete. But I could probly get into your base with the rebel ambush, or the sneak attack. I probably wouldn't last long though. It might be enough to take out a power plant or two. And it might take out your power for a minute or two.
"i use nuke cannons with those special shells to clear out your vehicles,"
Good tactic. But I might be able to counter it and use your own weapons against you with the hijacker dudes(unless you highly protect your Nuke Cannons). or maybe I could take out those nuke cannons with an anthrax bomb(they're very slow moving).
"if i was using the infantry general....i don't know. snipers are killers, but i can avoid stuff like bunker busters and toxin tractors in the re-enforced bunkers.:p."
Good tactic. I don't think I can take that out unless I use an anthrax bomb.
2 nukes kill off a SCUD storm, then artillery barrages finish dem off. this assumes you heve enough time to get da scud.
Anthrax don't work on the re-enforced bunkers.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
"2 nukes kill off a SCUD storm,then artillery barrages finish dem off. this assumes you heve enough time to get da scud."
No power can hold nukes out for a short while.
"Anthrax don't work on the re-enforced bunkers."
DAMN!
I might be able to take those out with those SCUD launcher trucks(unless you pack the bunkers with rocket infantry). But I think those SCUD launcher trucks come with a certain general(forgot which one). And can the rocket infantry dudes take out a SCUD(the SCUDs that are fired from a SCUD launcher truck), because I'm pretty sure they can.
Supercharge. all my power plants supercharges. i Love em.
The Scud Launchers can't be used by the stealth general, and the demo general can't use poison. nya nya nya. Oh, how good's your anti-air? I love my MiGs and my Helixs. with napalm.
I think the rocket troopers can shoot stuff down, but i know that my gattling cannons and minnigunners can. :p.
Oh, yeah. I only need 1 nuke and level 3 artillery to kill a SCUD.
I'd use my artillery to bring down yours, and MiGs to find your base. After that, Infantry assualt, with help from my vehicles.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
Super weapons could probably handle the Chinese (sp?) Generals rather quickly, and as for the nuke trucks etc. the EMPs are a bit tough to counter if protected correctly. And as for infantry, "One Shot, One Kill." Plus Burton giving Machine gun support, that is till I can get particle cannons ready.
Then throw in a few groups of droids, and you have yourself a defense.
My only concerns would be Nuke Centers, and Black Lotus/Super Lotus
The GLA I haven't played against often, I believe my setup will work reasonably well against them as well, the only problems beign the Ambush power, and the SCUD storms, plus the extended range of the SCUD Launchers...
Oh, a superweapon general. what fun. What about my super hackers? I can disable your power long enough enough to blow everything up.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
I think you forgot my Snipers, the super hackers won't get close enough to my power plants to hack them.
shareOh, yeah. I only need 1 nuke and level 3 artillery to kill a SCUD.
Luckly I'll have more than 1 SCUD storm. unless were playin a limited super weapons game.
Oh, how good's your anti-air? I love my MiGs and my Helixs. with napalm.
My air defense is pretty good, but that napalm is gonna be an effective problem for me. I usually put quad cannons near my stinger sites.
After that, Infantry assualt, with help from my vehicles.
The toxin tractors can probably take care of the infantry dudes(the tank hunter troops may be a problem though). I can use bomb trucks, terrorist, RPG troopers, hijackers, rocket buggy's, and Jarmen Kell to try and match your vehicles.
Then throw in a few groups of droids, and you have yourself a defense.The GLA I haven't played against often, I believe my setup will work reasonably well against them as well
Aw I hate the sentry drones, no chemical weapons have any effect on them. I guess I can try a large group of bomb trucks or terrorist.
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Luckly I'll have more than 1 SCUD storm. unless were playin a limited super weapons game.
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Right.....Nukes are better.....all my nukes.....all 10 of them.....
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The toxin tractors can probably take care of the infantry dudes(the tank hunter troops may be a problem though). I can use bomb trucks, terrorist, RPG troopers, hijackers, rocket buggy's, and Jarmen Kell to try and match your vehicles.
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Assault outposts. with tank hunters. nuff said. Plus assistance from Nuke cannons.....
I have also devised a consistent strategy using the tank general. It works against everyone except the superweapon general. the laser general is tough too. It is simply to get 3 war Factories A.S.A.P and build as many tanks as possible-about 30/40. build the Propaganda cner, to get the autoloader.then rush forward, without stopping, except to build re-enforcements. an alternate strategy is to wait until the propaganda center is ready, then build lots of Emperor Overlords, instead of the Battlemasters and Autoloader.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
i like the US air force general. humvees with the little machine gun drones for anti infantry, and the helis for anti armor (and anti infantry but by the time im up to alot of helis infantry is usually a non-factor) 2 airports of king raptors to harass with airstrikes (even with 2 and possibly 3 of the planes taken out king raptors will still finish off a super/command center in one shot and with the countermeasures plus the lasers for the GLA theyre a bitch to shoot down) if im fighting chinese ill make a few auoras to take care of gat guns, then massive stealth heli attack. methodical but it works. (and i soften up with the general powers, carpet bombing, spectere, MOAB.) for the chinese i like the tank guy for the emperor overlords but im always a fan of migs with black napalm (8 on an ememy base yay firestorm) i minefield resource places with the mine drop, and i keep you out of my base with the inferno cannons (or the nuke cannons i havent played in awhile and i cant remember if the tank guy gets them) and the fire sprayer thingys plus minefields. then emperor overlords and nukes. i dont like GLA so i dont use them.
sharethe countermeasures plus the lasers for the GLA theyre a bitch to shoot down)
What about the GLA quad cannons? The Lasers and counter measures won't do anything to what those trucks are shooting.
if im fighting chinese ill make a few auoras to take care of gat guns, then massive stealth heli attack.
Don't forget the chinese have gatling tanks(if you weren't talking about the gat tanks, just the gat cannons) and MIGs.
i dont like GLA so i dont use them.
I think the GLA generals are pretty good. Think about it, they don't need power, they have tunnel networks(really comes in handy), they have hijackers, rebel abushes, sneak attack, anthrax bomb, Angry mobs, and those Saboteur dudes.
I think the GLA is just as good as the others. share
the f22s can last long enough to take out whatever it is im shooting for or if i want to really piss my enemy off i fly the planes around and make the quad cannons chase them and i can usually shake them and then blow up whatever it is im aiming for, ive found that the gat towers do more damage than the tanks but auroas also work for the tanks just less well but if i want to be truely sadistic i take out the power plants which gives me a big explosion and shuts off towers (especially if they are grouped together which ive rarely seen) i find the tunnel networks require too much micromanaging and while i like the angry mob one commache salvo will take them out (i think that if a bomb goes off in the middle of an angry mob it should scatter breifly but balance issues would pop up) and worse comes to worse with the air force general i can carpet bomb and MOAB spectre and particle cannon the crap out of my opponents and lets say theres a launcher (i refer to the nukes the scuds and the infernos as launchers) one f22 or a commache puts my opponent out some money. my favorite strategy with the air force guy is humvees in the very beginning to keep you out of my hair then i get up to commaches and f22s and a strategy center then i start picking on harvesters or drop offs for the GLA until im up a few stars and then carpet bomb power plants or base defenses, then war factories, spectre lots of stuff, f22 and auora airstrike random important targets moab and particle supers commaches move in for kill.
shareHi, guys.
I just played a skirmish, to see if Bunker Buster works against Fortified Bunkers.
It does. Would be pretty silly otherwise. :)
I prefer the Air Force general, as his laser defense systems kick ass
Any of you ever tried using a bunker buster on a group of infantry or tanks? I bombed some rebels, and one flew away from the explosion as fast as a Aurora bomber lol. I tried flipping some overlords with the bunker buster, but they'd never flip, no matter how tilted they were.
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The China Nuke General Kicks Ass!!! I used him a couple of times, and his air power is Awesome! Tactical Nukes kill all!!! They're better than Aurora bombers, cos they cost less. Heck, the nuke general has lots of cheaper stuff, cos he doesn't need to buy the nike tank and shells upgrades.
Going back a bit, to some of the other guys, NEVER underestimate the GLA. Bomb trucks can ruin attackforces, and Quad cannons that come out of tunnel networks can be a pain for air forces. plus, the quads OWN Comanches, which most Air generals rely on.
GTG, i be back later
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I agree wiv u there the nuke gen is the best 4 me...love those tatical nuke migs!! they can send a scorpion tank flyin for miles! and any other tanks...my nxt gen would be the infantry then the demo gen hes so powerful! and for the USA I'd say lazer gen...although u will need ALOT of power to power his defences AND tanks!
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I am all about the tank general of China. I love spamming a base with nothing but tanks. Quite useful against attackers but not against turtles. I prefer to use arty instead of tank drop since he has no nuke or inferno cannons. I attack the attack force coming for my base to get experience then I start my arty runs. Once I get carbet bombs and EMPs, those without efficient air defense are basically done for. Air General is usually owned by the tank general due to the gatling tanks.
"Some people just shouldn't breed."
The tank general dies if he runs out of money, though......and his tanks are really slow and predictable......A fun way to stuff people up with china/GLA is to either(china) use lotus to capture a command center and use their stuff or (GLA) use Jarmen Kell to snipe a dozer and nick it. lots of fun, when they realise that you have 2 different bases. bwahahahaha......
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I think you guys rely on the strategy that the enemy opponent has to be ALSEEP to let you do all this stuff.
Main strategy for any opponent, if your GLA - You build your "Mob" units up like anything, and arm them with ak47's. Then nobody can stop you. The Mobs are unstoppable if you get them close enough to an enemy base. Of course, you need to create a good distraction - Maybe an army of Scorpion tanks too divert the enemies attention elsewhere. Then send in the Mob to do their job.
As the Chinese you basically create an army of Overlords with a third of the units having propaganda towers, another third having gatling guns, and the other third having bunkers for Rocket Men. With this 'load-out' your basically reparing any damaged Overlords with the Propaganda towers, as well as having air/land protection from the bunkers and gatling cannons. You're basically throwing an amazing, and unstoppable force at the enemy.
If you're America - you build you defenses up and use combined strikes of Aurora Bombers, with Raptors. Of course it takes a lot of money, but what I'm basically pointing out is each of the 'Empires' 3 best units. And if you don't exploit them properly, whats the point in bothering on that game, if you don't try to play, to win. Send the Aurora's at the enemys power supply, with the GLA you send the bombers to the destroy the base defenses and/or the Command Centre and the Dozers. Once you've done that - you've got yourself a base for the taking.
Of course the enemy will try to attack you, but doing one of the 3 attacking routines will totally break down the base defenses and structures. Meaning before they attack you, they're gonna rebuild an army/base. And you ... have another chance to strike at them - If they don't already have an army ready to use, they'll soon get one. So use you're main unit to do their job again - Of course it's a waste of money, but everyone has their own way to provide money for themselves. So get the cashflow in, and your cool.
First thing I do is concentrate on base defenses, and getting my money flow sorted. E.g. if I'm America - I'll build the Patriot Missile systems, and then get a few tanks and hummers out. Then start on my Strategy Centre, so I can get the Drop Pads, or whatever they are called, which provides you with 2500 or so, every 2 minutes. I get about 5-10 of them. (Or do what I did once, and have around 150 of them, and have a constant supply of money coming in :P, of course, my base took up one half of the map, itself :P). And you should be good for money, meaning you can perform any one of the previous 'tasks' I just said.
These 'tactics' don't always work, because people don't set up the right defenses to prepare themselves the time to do this. Time is of the essence to peform these tasks. You have to make sure you have an army of troops/tanks in reserve in case anything happens before hand. Otherwise you're as good as the Black Lotus in a field of Mines.
Hehe... Just my opinion.
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I think the stealth General is actually the best GLA for defense. You can't airstrike/generals powers stuff you can't see.
Also, lots of pathfinders stuff up mobs, same with Gatts or quads. And Napalm. And Poison.
Overlords are countered by suicide/air units.
Air is countered by AA.
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Stealth general good? HAHAHAHA! The american air force general with his King Raptors (that have the ability to spot stealth troops) will blow him away. Anyway its either him, or the chinese infantry general that would win.
shareits got to be demo general, scuds a far more deadly, arm all my units with demos - and jarman khel as a bad mother fuc ker, its jarman and burton combined.
sneak attack will fu ck any mofo up.
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The best one has to be the Chinese Infantry General. Minigunners can demolish most infantry (except the American pathfinder snipers, and you can find them using assault troop crawlers and assault outposts) and are good for anti-air as well. Super Lotus can sneak into an enemy base and capture buildings quickly, and Super Hackers can raise funds faster than anything else.
shareDL "Reborn" mod. That´s all you´ll ever need...Harrier´s, Delta´s, Chinese snipers, mortars, navy, T-72...just awesome!!!
the modes are not done by the command and conquer company and therefore the game becomes unbalanced!!!!!!!!!
per example a friend of mine gave me a mod(of generals) and at first i was surprised and happy you could find new generals like assault general hijacker general... new units like t-72 saddamz republican guards harriers deltas ...
but then i realised that the balance wasnt studied well and the more i played the more i dislked it. per instince take if u take usa u'll have an abraham tank and if u take gla u'll have a t-80 tank they're almost equal by force in the game but the t-80 costs 1000$ and the abraham 2500$ they should have givven greater power to the abraham .... and this one of the millions of goofs.
so i just threw it away and sticked to zero-hour which i find fair
plus it's really stupid to do mods with units like t-72 abrahams or generals like saddam ....harriers since the game takes place in 2020 which is THE NEXT ERA OF MILITARY TECHNOLOGY
With any General you must Strike hard, Strike fast, Strike deep. If the enemy is China or USA destroy their power, then their Command Center then move on to cleaning up their production facilities. By this time however, a good player would be hidden behind superior defenses to prevent counter attack also, destroy the enemies first strike capabilities first to allow a easy access to their base. This is only my advice and you have to find what works for you the best.
shareMy favorites general so far has to be the Nuke General and the Sneak attack GLA general. I usually start by making a few defenses that will defend against anything, and i start building a crap load of hackers..and hopefully by then noone would have gotten that deep into my base and then i start the attack squad. I start by building gat cannons at the entry points...with a bulldozer on each group (with a speaker tower ) ....then a lot of rocket troups. Then a couple inside the base. That usually holds off a lot. Then i build around 4 nukes and away i go. Im sure i could get beat pretty easily...the only thing about me is..if you let me have my base too long...im unstoppable. I will always win if i get enough hackers...but until then im pretty vunerable. When i get money tho...i start by getting 8 tact. nuke migs and have them guard certain areas outside the base, then i build around 20-30 emperor overlords...put a few with speak tower and the rest gat cannons. Then i build a lot of heli's to guard the base...and away i go. :)
shareSuperweapon General or Laser General are by far the best.
See I prefer the defensive tatic whereby I build my base up with lots of defences first (Laser Turrets can stop almost anything... making it impossible to invade my base).
With the threat of attack out of the way I can then focus on building my base up, investing heavily in air supply drops and power plants for the next stage.
Then, generally, I build 10 or so ion cannons (more if needs be).
2 ion cannons combined can take out any SCUD storm or Nuclear Missle Silo before their countdown has even finished.
Next comes building about 5+ airfields with the ususal menagerie of Stealth Bombers, Aurora Bombers, (Alpha Aurora if playing Superweapon ... *drools* ) and Raptors.
Then comes the attack:
Multiple ion cannons can take out power plants (if China) to power down defences, or key stinger sites (if GLA).
A rather fun tactic is to take out the command centre and every dozer on the map if playing against China. That way they can't rebuild! :D
Then, once the defences are down, thus begins a massive bombing campaign. When a couple of units/buildings are left, and if there's time, I normally dispatch a few laser tanks to mop up the mess and wipe everything off the map!
You GOT to be kiddin! The Superweapon general is so easy to own. Especially online: I rush the bitch with terrorists, and blow her stuff up which mostly results in winning. She's SO easy to rush!
I always play with Dr.Thrax, and I just don't give my opponent the occasion to bunker himself in. Rushing is the key for GLA players. And if he bunkers in, there is still the sneak attack
Superweapon can also get her own tactic used against her. Say, the stealth building stinger sites ALL OVER THE MAP, then camoing them.
I'll bring destruction on you all........after my nap.
Haha! That would be hilarious to watch :P
I don't play much online, I often go against 4-6 Hard AI, all allied against me. If they get general powers you are pretty much toast so Laser general/Superweapons general are my favorites since I can really limit my casualties. I once killed 5 Hard allied without a single causality on my side. I think my final force was a small but precise 7 elite laser tanks, 4 elite Humvees filled with snipers, 8 elite Raptors, and 4 elite Stealth/4 elite Aurora bombers.
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my favs and strongest are Stealth general & US superweapon (if u can use hypersonics @online, depends much.) all others are fine but infrantry & laser general are too weak in many points. ;P + ill play with progen mod so.. there are some adds like quadsniper for quadcannons and some more ballance things etc..