Seriously, what's the point? I have never really understood the mentality of being a major fan of any sports team, but this is just insane. I just find the whole thing so utterly pointless. That being said, the film was OK. And I for one, really liked the accents, I found them entertaining to listen to. I have never been in a English speaking country though, so lack of authenticity does not bother me in the slightest.
shareYeah, as an American watching it, I was also trying to really "get" what the deal was with "hooliganism," if that's a word, lol. I was thinking to myself, "OK, so basically these guys are fans of opposing teams and so they just go around pummeling each other for being on different sides?" I wasn't sure what exactly it was all about. Is it like being a street gang? And Pete says that it is, sort of, but different from the Crips and Bloods. I know very little about American football and I'm not a fan of any team, but I know people who are fans of one team or another and there's a rivalry but it's a friendly rivalry. So in my neck of the woods you have Vikings fans and you have Packers fans. No one goes out and beats up the Packers fans for being stinkin' cheeseheads, lol. Maybe some "rowdy" Vikings fans will crash a Packer fan's tailgate party and razz them about various players and how they're going to drive them into a losing streak for the season, but it isn't violent. Not usually. I'm sure there are some fans of our sports teams who are die hard enough that they would commit some act of violence if someone badmouthed a team or a player. But that's considered poor sportsmanship :)
shareif you cant understand football, not the game, but the unique passion behind it (no other sport can compare to it in forms of passion, people considering a LIFESTYLE not simply a sport) then you cant really understand hooliganism and firms. it may seem easy for you to judge but thing is you dont really know what is to really love a football club
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So are you trying to justify this stupid behavior? I don't care how much of a lifestyle it is or not, there is no excuse for this lowlife behavior. Plus, if you are really a die hard fan and live for a team, then nobody is gonna take that feom you. So why go out of your way and travel hundreds of miles just to go prove that you are a diehard fan by fighting fans of other teams? It makes no sense whatsoever, however you wanna flip that *beep*
sharego watch the football factory and forget this crap. green street is load of *beep* i've nothing against female directors, but they shouldn't direct films about football.
shareI was 12 when I joined the firm but in my country it was more of a neighborhood firm supporting your local team or in my case we got behind our middle school. Middle schools would play tournaments in soccer/handball/basketball and group of thirty 12yearolds from each school would gather and fight. We had chants and also were making tifos for our respective schools so we were more coping Italian ultra style than English firms. Of course all of that was a stepping block, you can call it a youth academy because around 15 or 16 capos representing ultras for city's club would come knocking on your door asking you to join.
At age of 17 I came to America and went to a first high school basketball game ready to fight with opposing fans :). Sitting on bleachers for the first five minutes was a real culture shock, no fans, no singing, no tifos, no flares and at halftime opposing fans were talking to each other! This was back in '97 and just couldn't understand that American supporters (MLB, NBA, NFL) didn't provide that type (italian ultras) of support. Also, students from one high school did not pick fights with students from other high school.
Now I am older past that stuff, however, when I do go to MLS game and see opposing fans wearing jerseys I do want to go after them. I miss the thrill.
Having said all of that I forgot to mention the main reason why I (my friends) got into this at age of 12, cops! Sure you fight with opposing fans, but it was mostly to fight with cops. Sitting on a park bench Sunday afternoon with nothing to do one of friends would say 'well lets find some cops and start *beep* with them'.
We had rules (rules might be universal) :
1. no guns
2. if you do use a knife no life threatening stabs
3. you don't attack a guy walking with his wife/gf/mom
4. if a guy falls down on ground with a serious injury take him to a hospital/provide care for him
I come from Balkan country.
If football is not your passion, then you wont understand what this guys feel. I am italian, and i am an official and devoted Ultras of F.C Internazionale Milano. Ultras are people who love their team, who feel every match and who are willing to do anything for their team. Being an ultras does not mean you are uneducated. I am currently studying on becoming a doctor, i study a lot, but my mind is always thinking about Inter. If my best friends who are also Ultras are going to a fight, i am absolutely joining. It's about pride, it's about passion. If you do not support a team with all your heart, you are not going to understand.
shareGotta love this romanticising bs spewing from these hooligan types. Face it fellas, it's got nothing to do with passion & everything to do with satisfying your bloodlust. Here in the US we have a similar type of idiocy, those fans who are so "passionate" as to set cars & whatnot on fire when their team wins a championship. Gimme a break, the world would be a better place without ANY of you.
shareI have been a football fan all my life. I'm a season ticket holder for Newcastle United for nearly thirty years.I have been to home and away games both here and abroad and have eaten and slept NUFC for all of that time.
Newcastle United is my passion and, some would say, obsession. I went without my dinner at school, so I could keep the money to go to the match. I went to Newcastle University because I didn't want to miss a match.
In all of that time, I have never contemplated fighting 'for my club'. I wouldn't sully the name of my beloved Toon.
Why do people do it? They're insecure lads who need a gang to be part of. They have a camaraderie within their firm. They feel affirmed when someone praises them for their actions. They feel as though they are in an army - brothers in arms. They enjoy the thrill and the fear. In short - they're no-mark c0cks.
We never sat cars on fire, what's the point of that? Even if a car belongs to another supporter it makes on sense to set it on fire. One thing is to support your club and give it all, another one is to get drunk and start smashing things.
shareTo FuTBol_HooL...that is what happens in the United States in a nutshell. I don't care the sport (NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB) but when a given team wins the championship the ugly side of that team's city runs rampant rioting. Some cities granted are more subdued than others but in major urban areas it has happened like New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Vancouver, Chicago, Detroit are some examples..
shareTo some football is just a sport, to others its religion, life, and so on.. Its just that eccentric passion for your club..you would do anything for them.. I'm a Liverpool fan but not a hooligan..
shareBeing a fan of football is just a way for suppressed homosexuals to get excuses for being physical with other men. Of course they will never admit to this, but in their hearts they all know it's true.
shareSeriously, what's the point? I have never really understood the mentality of being a major fan of any sports team, but this is just insane. I just find the whole thing so utterly pointless. That being said, the film was OK. And I for one, really liked the accents, I found them entertaining to listen to. I have never been in a English speaking country though, so lack of authenticity does not bother me in the slightest.
Too much time on their hands and no future.
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