Am i the only person who sat there and thought "Hey, this movie is just like the shining. :|"
I'm talking the bulk of the movie, not like there is a kid with ESP but the rest of it is uncanny. Theres even an axe killer scene!
Just wondered if anyone else is seeing it.
Here's Jonny!!! ha!
Def has a 'Shining element to it' - perhaps a slight rip off, but the fact it's meant to be based on a true story I suppose it can be forgiven.
Def has a 'Shining element to it' - perhaps a slight rip off, but the fact it's meant to be based on a true story I suppose it can be forgiven.
Just a pity the true story was nothing like The Shining ;)
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The Shining came out in 1980. The original Amityville Horror came out in 1979. When watching the 1979 one, I found it similar to The Shining, but it can't be written off as a rip-off because the Shining came out AFTER the original Amityville Horror.
Just though that everyone in this thread should know before people start making judgments about this story being a rip-off of a movie it preceeded.
but the Shining novel was published in 1977.
He came up with the idea in 1974 as he and his wife stayed alone in a hotel jsut before closing season
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To be honest, haven't seen the original Amityville film. The onyl reason i saw thsi one was because my flatmate left some DVDs around and i was bored.
As far as this film went in relation to the shining:
-Both fathers go insane becuase of the bad things/deaths that went on in the house/hotel
-both fathers realise at the end of the film they were possessed
-dead children that talk to the young sibling.
-countdown of the days spent in the hotel/house
-both houses built on burial ground
I guess it's more of a thematic thing. I never said it was a straight out copy, I jsut thought i'd jump to the defense of my fav book/film!
Both fathers didn't realise at the end they were possessed. In The Shinning the son gets out a window and starts running away from his dad, the dad freeze's to death looking for him in the maze of trees. And, the hotel in the shining wasnt built on a burial ground and the house in Amityville Horror wasn't as well. Watch the movies before you say there anything the same, Get your facts right.
shareInternet error no. 365: Telling people to check their facts before checking their own. If I am posting what I consider to be facts, you can be pretty sure I can back them up with references.
Anyway, enough of the baiting.
As this particular thread is wondering which was the original source material, I thought it would be best to go back to the source, namely the books both are based on. The Shinning (sic) is based on a book by Steven King, and yes, The father does realise, and he burns down the Overlook.
"The face in front of him changed. It was hard to say how; there was no melting or merging of the features. The body trembled slightly, and then the bloody hands opened like broken claws...That was all. But suddenly his daddy was there, looking at him in mortal agony, and a sorrow so great that Danny's heart flamed within his chest...
'Doc' Jack Torrance said. 'Run away. Quick. And remember how much i love you.'"
- pg. 475, Nel edition.
As for the hotel being built on a burial ground - it certainly is the book and is more than referenced in the film.
"Construction started in 1907. It was finished in 1909. The site is supposed to be located on an Indian burial ground and I believe they actually had to repel a few Indian attacks as they were building it."
As for the Amityville horror, again we are talking about the book and film. Both reference that it "is built on a burial ground or something like that" (in real life however, there is no burial ground. But hell, there are no ghosts or demons in real life either, so i suppose they couldnt get everything correct)
In conclusion on this rather self important reply, don't shoot people down if you 'think' they might be wrong. And don't reply back saying "well the book is irrelevent" or anything, since we are talking originality it is best to go back to the sources.
Shining: Feb. 1977 (idea developed in 1974 after a visit to an abandoned hotel)
Amityville book: Sept. 1977
Amityville film: 1979
Shining film: 1980 (extended filming time as Kubrick is a perfectionist.
i thought exactly the same thing! the same possessed man with an axe trying to kill his family... and them trying to escape!!!
shareYa it is similar but this is based on a true story.
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The film is just a poor attmept to copy everything that is good about The Shining. Its quite amusing that they are so obvious about it though.. they dont try and make it seem like it is its own film!
(they might aswell have just thrown the use of a typewriter in there to poilsh it all off)
I was extremly dissapointed!
The original film (AND the novel) didn't have George Lutz trying to kill his family, this remake did. Why? So it could rip off.... uh, I mean, share itself more in common with the superior haunted house classic 'The Shining'.
This film copies and/or emulates several other ghost horror films in general.
The Shining:
- George Lutz going aggressive towards his wife as she's threatening to jepordize whatever 'work' the husband is doing for the house. Then leading to going crazy and attempting to kill his whole family (with an axe near the end as well)
- The countdown of the days spelled in broad words with sharp sudden sounds.
- One of the kids seeing/communicating with the dead (Shining; a boy. Amityville; a girl)
- The house is built upon an Indian burial ground.
The Sixth Sense
- The scene where the little boy goes to the bathroom at night to take a pee, and gets spooked by the ghost that appears next to him. Reminded me all too clearly of that same scene from The Sixth Sense.
The Ring
- Jodie has been changed from an evil spirit manefested as a pig into a spooky girl, who is following every recent creepy girl cliche of pale dead-eyed face, long black straggely hair, and nightgown since films like the Ring and the Grudge inspired this trend.
A Nightmare On Elm Street
- A little vague this scene, but it was immediatley the first thing that came to me when I saw it. It was when George Lutz was pulled under in the bath by those hands. It reminded me of the dream sequence when Nancy is dragged under the bathwater by Freddy.
Besides, people saying this was a true story, gotta understand the 1974 DeFao murders were real, but the Lutz hauntings were hoaxed by the Lutz's (they admitted it several years later), the author Jay Anson exaggerated the scenarios when writing the novel, it then transpired into the 1979 movie (cheesy schlock-fest) then came The Shining a year later (now classic horror), then this remake came in 2005 which went back on its claim it was going to be more faithful to the book then proceeds to rip off all the primary staples of The Shining (and a few elements of other ghost movies) and to top it all off - pissing off the Lutz family by presenting George as a potential killer.
There you have it. The first film wasn't good, and the remake was worse.
Yes, the remake was terrible. However, the original is a masterpiece. You should know that the Lutzes NEVER said it was a hoax. They have said that the movie (and to a lesser extent, the book) had changed and added some things. But the Lutzes maintained that they had indeed been haunted while living there.
sharei was reminded of 'the shining' - i think this movie is as good as 'the shining' - both reynolds and nicholson make scary funny men.
shareStephen King has always said he somewhat based the Shining on his experience at the Stanley Hotel. However, its seems actually inspired more so by the Amityville Horror and his experience at the Stanley. In the Amityville book its made more clear the murders were committed because of the haunting and possession.
Ronnie Defao=Jack
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