come on, i had dozens of teachers who spends all classes cursing the "system" and not actually teaching. i had dozens of classmates who are against "conventional tests and lessons", but they were jus slacking off. most of people has to study and work hard to get what they want.
shareI think they main thing in your post was that "most" of the people have to study and work hard, but there are a few people that actually aren't conventional learners.
Queen B
Well I dont study or pay any attention in class and I still get A's so Im happy lol.
Last three movies seen:
Superbad 6/10
Disterbia 9/10
Saving Private Ryan 3/10
You gave Saving Private Ryan a 3/10 and spelled the film as "Disterbia [sic]", which you then gave a 9 out of 10.
I wish you good luck in majoring in fast food management.
Guy 1: Oh My God, I found a penny!
Guy 2: You B@stard!
That's what I was thinking.
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Yeah. Lazy. I'm with you man. They were almost as lazy as those folks who don't take 5 seconds to use spell check on their post headlines. Slackers.
~Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.~ President Merkin Muffley
I am one of those unconventional learners. I can't learn any thing from having someone stand in front of the class and talk at me. If I get step by step instructions and the time to figure it out then I usually can get a handle on it. Diagrams help too as do visual aids.
One of my teachers taught us about division by bring a pizza into class and cutting it up.
One of my teachers taught us about division by bring a pizza into class and cutting it up.
whatever it made it more interactive and more concrete than just writing it out on paper - and we also got free pizza so that was a bonus and this was also in grade 2 or 3 not in like high school
shareEducation works differently for different people, but I agree that the way it was portrayed in the film, although hilarious, was indeed largely laziness. I don't have any problem with that, but it will probably make things harder once you finish or quit school. :P
shareThe educational system we currently use is called the "factory model". It was imported from the Prussians by guys like Rockafeller and Carnegie to help create workers for their factories. Accepted tries to take on this notion. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to trust itself enough to be a brilliantly funny satire, so it dumbs things down around so pretty interesting rhetoric. (I'm thinking Uncle Ben in general and specifically B's last speech.)
Classroom learning is the antithesis of real learning. Take learning to ride a bike, for example. You force your kid to sit inside and watch a video, give him/her some hand outs, and diagram techniques on the board. Maybe you could even take a "field trip" to the street where you could let her watch some people ride bikes.
Me? I'll wait until my kid expresses interest in riding a bike, then I will take him/her outside and let start riding (and falling off).
And how preposterous would it be to assign the bike riding activity a number. "Good job, you scored an 83% riding your bike!" Grades are ridiculous. Either you can or you can't.
B asks, "Why can't we both exist?" He doesn't want to shut down Harmon. The system encourages laziness. Behavior is motivated by inner desire and success. The Harmon crowd want to follow the system they believe will benefit them most (because it probably will). The South Harmon group know intrinsically that they can't function on that level, so they resort to more immediate gratification activities. B suggests at the end that there is something to motivate these people as well.
And one other note, education was never meant to be job training. That is the bastardization we have now. A chimp can be trained to do a job. Education was intended to develop the potential of the mind.
Mm nah, riding a bike relies on muscle memory and coordination to learn, unlike education that requires theory. Lets see you teach your son calculus without 'classroom' learning.
And a chimp can be trained to become an accountant or chemical engineer? Didn't know that.
Throughout, virtually, its entire history education has been approached as job training. This has certainly been the case throughout the history of the U.S. All of the original colleges in the the U.S. maintained a curriculum which existed solely to train individuals for jobs in the fields of medicine, law, math (engineering), the clergy, or politics. Actually the concept of education being anything other than the teaching of job skills or the basic skills of reading, writing, and arithmetic is a fairly recent construct. In fact for much of history if the pursuit of education interfered with or did not directly apply to one's job or other responsibilities then the education would be abandoned for that individual. Certainly the idea that education (taking the form of developing the potential of the mind) should be pursued by everyone is a very recent idea in terms of the history of education.
shareIt's not a recent construct. It existed before the assembly line appeared and took everything over. Noblemen children went to the univerity to develop their minds, they had all the money and wealth, they could do nothing but they CHOSE to go to universities.
Yeah it was a bad system as poor kids had no other option than to go to and learn a trade and live in poverty but something was lost when masses of people started to rush to colleges.... and creative people where the ones that were FIRSTLY harmed by that.
Back in the day, in 15th- 18th century etc. you college course consisted of travelling around Europe and hanging out (and learning) at various universities and experiencing different cultures, young people went on Grand Tour, visiting Rome, Greece, England, France, learning languages and learning to appreciate art, literature etc. And out of that came people who weren't particulary good at one specific subject but could contribute to several fields and shape the history of the world. Now most people you'll find at top positions are basically morons in everything except their own field... I know successful businessmen and bankers who list books of the type "How I Earned My First Million" as their favourite books and movies like "American Pie" as their favourite movies. If you start to talk about any subject OUTSIDE their sphere, they'd be lost... If they were into PR or journalism, they'd probably wouldn't know how much is 13 x 13, if they were in finance they wouldn't have any idea who Keats is...