First of all, you contradict yourself, first you wrote it's the woman's choice and that pro-lifers are thinking too black and white and then you turn it all around by saying we women even have the "duty" to have that baby, if they get unwantedly pregnant.
“Every Man has the Duty to give others the Right to lived its a basic principle of humanity Right to lived, that includes the Law of God “ thou shall not Kill” which is a mortal SIN. But you or other would reject that it is wrong or a SIN. Whatever isn’t normal to the Nature of man is always contradicting to the balance of Nature. The woman was made to born and the Made was made to make the woman make her born a child. ”
And then that without those prolifers there would be less abortions? How, by blowing up some more clinics, so much so, that in a lot of towns in the States most clinics are gone, out of fear mostly?!
“ I think your confused how can a Prolifer don’t exist and lesser Abrotions.. Because of the Prolifers the Pro Abortions are impede to do so, The congress or the state of the particular country would make it a crime to abort a baby, that was raised and defended by the PROLIFE movement the right to lived and the of will to Lived..”
I would never abort my baby, but that doesn't mean ever woman should do the same. When you're not in their position, you can never make the decision for them, it's not your or my business even, it's a personal matter, lawfully so!!
“I may not in their position, But it is my Duty to defend the Life of the Defenseless Babies, What position do I have? I have the position to oppose and uphold the right to lived and defend every Child and Babies, Just like the Mother who would try to kill his/ her Adolescene son or daughter. As God or the State gave me the gift to lived so does I would let other give that right. Cause I believed its not on their hand to decide who should lived or who shouldn’t lived” Nobody has the right to take others life unless the other person agree so, even so its still a Murder if the other person aggress”
And stop trying to portray every christian or chatolic person as a good person. There are so many rapes, incest, murders, or whatever done in the name of christ or even worse, done by these "nice christian people". Not one religion is without their sinners ór their saints and that will always be the case. Good people, bad people, they all come in different shapes and sizes, religion and colour.
“ Im not Trying to Portray as the most good one”. It shows that those who aggress with abortions are not in good position to decide which is right or wrong” since of of them are just sacred or irresponsible persons who don’t care about other sake but by their own comfort is a sign of bad character that should be dealt with a Psycharist or a Religious clergy who can facilitate their statues so they wont regret every mistakes they would make”
But to get back to the subject, without abortion there would also be too many unwanted children, who are not that fortunate, after they get "adopted", a lot can and does happen, especially in countries where that system isn't good enough, children that get placed with the wrong parents and after they are a bit older, already scarwed for life, no one wants to adopt them, which means they get shuffed from fosterhomes to the so called childrencentre, wich also means, when the money's not their and the institute has to close, these kids get in other homes and if they are a bit scarwed, they end up in psychwards or whatever.
“Shut up lady you don’t make sense” try to analyze ever word you are speaking” you don’t have any objection or whatsoever, your just reasoning out without having a good point, you are override by your emotions along with your wrong principles”
This is just one thing that can happen and often it doesn't, but in the States it does happen a lot, especially since Bush is in office, he doesn't have the money to help all these kids and only for that reason I'm already pro-choice. There are to many unwanted children already, do we really want more? And what about all these drugmothers, do you really want them to bare their drugaddicted baby nobody wants to adopt, because the child may have permanent braindamage or whatever.
I know I use the most, unlikely to happen, stories, but it's a reality, just like all these streetkids in Brasil, childhookers in Thailand, crackbabies in the States, they don't have a choice and so the circle keeps spinning.
“ You may raise rare situation like that but doesn’t mean it is good enough to make abortions since if other who are normal of what you think has the right to lived, How much more those who aren’t” if we give important to the disabled person by making or building them special road or facilities , whats the difference between them and us? Maybe your too indiscriminate about the babies of those mothers, You cant determined the real compassion from the wrong one” And saying that abortion should be legalized for the reason that poverty exist” is like kill the other for the sake of saving a lot of money” do you value material thing over living things? Or individual How horrible person you are.” That goes to the Abortionist to..
Then maybe you should trust your God and let people make their own decisions, according to the bible, just as God intended?! I'm not that religious, but it seems obvious, or is it just obvious to me? I don't know anymore, all i know is, that there are too many children suffering and too many wars in name of religion. One thing you where right about. It should be up to the mother and just hope she will make the right decision. Otherwise nothing will be private and personal anymore......
“Freedom of Choice to abort a child isn’t freedom at all, since Freedom is true when it gives others a chance to lived” Just like we do on the Battle to defend our nations so that other race would not take our freedom” The law of Man and the Law of God has a big difference, But when it comes to Life it is one” the Right to Live and the Right to Exist”
"If only the good people go to Heaven, it must be a boring place"
Boring people are those who only do things that has no challenge since they are slubs and their life has no obstacles or hardship, they see wrong things as right they see things as normal, But hose who fight what is wrong are individuals who defend it thick and boned its not easy its challenging so what is boring? Those who go by the flow or the one who try to make himself good inspite of the evil in his surrounding can you? Evil persons are Boring people.. hehehe cause they never take challenges in their life” That is to be good..hehe
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LucretiaBorg
18 years ago
First of, I thought my English grammer was bad, but yours is even worse, but I think I understood most of it.
You had a few good points, like all subjects, there's a lot of grey area. There was one thing I had to think about. I wrote that it's the "mother's" choice what to do when she's pregnant and you pointed out that there should be more consideration for the baby, instead of the "mother's to be", but then I got thinking....
Isn't that just the point, for pro-lifers, it's not a baby/person yet. So if there is no life, how can you kill it. You only kill the posibility of life and that's the real issue we should discus, not only the reason behind it, I think.
When I wrote my last message, I was very emotional and it was because of another tv programme, that I mentioned all these worse-case scenario's. The programme showed only the most sensational stories with abortions. And that's where you ánd I went wrong. A lot of these women are upperclass citizens, well educated, so not all of these women are unfit to make such a desicion, as you also suggested. I think that's an unfair statement, just like my worse-case scenario's, not all of these women are poor 'trailertrash', as they like to call it.
And finally, about my sentence "If only good people go to heaven, it must be a boring place"?!
I had to finish my profile and I couldn't remember my favourite quote, so I wrote this one. With 'good people', I don't mean just normal people. It means that if those people that live their life's as they should, but without much joy, like many do. The working class, so to speak, but then only work, no vacation's, every day the same, some have families. How do you say this, uhm, people that live in a rut (something like that).
To get back to the subject, read Celebrian's remark, because this is getting almost rediciolous, it's an ungoing discussion, that will never end, so there will be no solution. So maybe we should both put some water to the wine and agree to disagree.
"If only the good people go to Heaven, it must be a boring place"
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