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Pretentious, confusing garbage


This film had its moments, but really a bloated, overly long extended piece of garbage.

What a waste of talent!

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Agreed! I am watching it now and I cannot wait for it to end. And a lot of it is very incoherent and confusing like you said.

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You're not watching. You're playing around on the internet.

Can't stop the signal.

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maybe the reason it's confusing is you, not the film

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Were you involved in the making of this movie?

Perhaps one of the extras thinking you were working with the great Phillip Seymour Hoffman on a big important project only find out you had a meaningless part of this overly complex turd.

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Why bother coming on here to talk *beep* in the first place? The film is complex to a degree, and definitely confusing, but it's intended to be that way. It's not hard to understand, really. Easily one of the best written films of the 21st century.

Do you just use insults to cover up the fact that you have no legitimate argument against this film, aside from just not liking it?

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So fill me in on some unpretentious great films.

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Do me a favor; look up the word pretentious; and then realize that the film isn't garbage. It had a point, it presented it well; but you didn't like it.

I hate it when airheads see a film where it decides to make things ambiguous, Bird man for example, and decides that because they didn't get it it's pretentious.

I'm not saying *beep* you for not liking it; i'm saying *beep* you for calling it pretentious.

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Interesting that you say that, I would say Birdman IS pretentious especially compared to this movie. Where this movie commits whole heartedly to its ambiguous point, so that there is no question that this movie has a point, birdman doesnt convince as well, there are great edits and transitions in the movie, and its technically incredible, but nothing in the movie stuck with me, unlike this movie which I find to be a multi-layered rabbit hole of a movie that will drag you in with just one scene. Anyone of which can be prescribed numerous meanings that all totally fit. Its a bleak masterpiece it really is. not his best movie but Amazing just because it exists

I'm a contradiction 

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It's the best movie that can ever be made. Amen.

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it is NOT a "piece of garbage". That's a silly, STUPID, dunderheaded thing for you to say. Straight up. See, there is such a thing as a "good" film and a "bad" film. intent of the filmmaker, reason for being... that sort of thing? A "bad" film, or as you eloquently put it, a "piece of garbage" is a film created for pretty much entirely cynical reasons; something that was never intended to inspire thought, discussion or even really enjoyment... say, a film like "The Human Centipede" or the 'Hostel' pictures - THOSE i would consider "pieces of garbage"... It's largely a mystery to me why these films were, at every level of filmmaking, made. Money, i suppose, but (especially with 'Centipede'), one gets the idea that even money was not really on the filmmaker's minds, considering the kind of business the first film did, and considering the two(!) sequels that followed that first...MORALLY gross flick.

You of COURSE have every right to dislike 'Synecdoche'. To hate it. But calling it a "piece of garbage" just does NOT go. It was created, i truly believe, with every intention to inspire considerable thought and wonder in it's viewers... it's a rare, beautiful film. I do believe this.

P.S. i am not a humourless cinema snob, just so you know. i DO realize my reply is many times over too pretentious, preachy... all that. i just had to say SOMETHING, because how can a film that inspires so much from so many people (perhaps more than you might think) possibly be garbage? Do you really believe this film is ACTUALLY as worthless as trash??

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Not garbage, just dog poop!

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I don't think it's "garbage" or that it's any more "confusing" than other, better art films but I do agree that it's overlong.

Me, I think it's poorly paced, emotionally uninvolving, visually unappealing, has an underwhelming musical score, and uses distracting old age makeup. But on the plus side, it touches on a lot of interesting ideas -- some of which haven't been explored much in other films -- and it features enjoyable performances from Samantha Morton and Tom Noonan, as well as an easy-to-appreciate-but-hard-to-love performance from Philip Seymour Hoffman.

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