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Best Australian Film - Stop reading - go see it


I just saw this film tonight and everybody should know its something really amazing!
Don't read anymore about it , don't read any reviews or even ask people about it.
Just go and see it.

(Oh and I'm not on the distributor's payroll, although I probably should be!)

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I saw this film on Saturday and was really amazed and impressed by it. For those bag the Australian film industry(and there's heaps) I say think again.

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Oh, how I wish I could just go out and see this movie. However, I am in the US and I'm afraid I will be waiting for a while before I will get to see this one. But the one thing I have noticed from reading this board is, the person who does get to view this movie will either LOVE it or HATE it. I don't think I have read where anyone's opinion has been "it was OK" or "it was so-so". It has seemed to bring out the strongest emotions in people both good and bad. So, I would say it depends on the type person you are as to whether you like the film or not. That is not to say that a person has to be of a certain age or intelligence, etc, to like the movie. For example, some people only like or are used to action movies or plot-driven ones and if they see character-based movies it is a change of pace that may not appeal to them at first.

I saw a recent Gabriel Byrne movie that was one of those limited releases and only got to see it by going to one of the film festivals. At any rate, I really like it and wanted to see it again but my sister absolutely hated it and wanted to flee the building after the first 15 minutes. As she said, If a movie doesn't grab me within the first 15 minutes it doesn't have a good chance of doing it in the next 15 either!

Karen

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Its hard to tell people why they should see this film but I just think go and see it. I hope it gets an audience in the US.
I think with Gabriel Byrne and Laura Linney as the leads it should get lots of attention and maybe an oscar nod. In Australia we have a hard time with getting Australian's to see Australian films so its kind of a sign of the times that they had to resort to having non Australians star in the film. However it helped the film get the right funding and most importantly while the story is very much about Australia as it is now, it's also very universal and anywhere in the world it screens people will get it.
Oh and of course Laura Linney and Gabriel Byrne are fantastic in the film!
Anybody who gets to see this film for the first time is lucky and in for a graet experience!

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I saw this film on Saturday. And I was enthralled by it. While the aboriginies were portayed as a bit hard hearted. It was clearly shown at the end of the movies that a lot their emotions were kept locked inside themselves. I am curious to know who you wanted to strangle. Was the the men who went fishing or the Aboriginies? I cant quite work out why you thought they were portrayed as animals. They seemd to be relatively affluent. Surely the white man at the beggining of the movie was and was portrayed as an animal.

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"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."

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for a wall map of aboriginal language groups try www.aiatsis.gov.au/aboriginal_studies_press

Prayer said by Gabriel Byrne when placing St Bridget's cross above doorway seemed to be a Gaelic repeat of what he had already said in English - for more about the cross, surf the net but be aware the name bridget can be spelt umpteen different ways [as it too has been translated into English]

This movie involves a murder but it is not a who-dunnit, it's a why-dunnit. Why did Caylin-Calandria sacrifice a hamster? Why did the men stay fishing? Why did Claire leave her son for 18 months?... why is her mother in law such a cow, and a whole heap more of whys including why on earth would anyone name a daughter Caylin-Calandria?

Now for the stuff about race. Lots of individual people's frameworks for viewing the world are laid out in this movie for us to see. To me, this is the point of the movie. We all have our own ideas of what respect for life means.

Cut to a shot of a captured trout left needlessly gasping for air rather than put out of it's misery, or cut to Jude's "so what?" attitude about a dead rodent... even if her 7 year old granddaughter did sacrifice it. All of this makes the reaction of Claire and of Billy to the men's decision to keep fishing seems relatively extreme [which is weird in itself].

At just what point does the indifference of the cast to life, death or suffering in its various forms end? Even some retaliation by a few of Sussan's mob doesn't seem enough to shake the white protagonists out of their complacency. Are we white australians really racist, or just too bloody lazy to even be that?

Derekrulz66 says the aboriginals were portrayed as animals. Does this mean animals as in the director thought they were subhuman, or animals as in their behaviour in the story was uncivilised? To hate the aboriginal characters in this story, it seems you would at least have to be on the "I would keep fishing" team. [Which is not to say all those who kept fishing hate aboriginals.]

Sure a couple of aboriginal people broke one window and painted another. Well, can't we allow some of Sussan's family to have feelings? Are all aboroginal people responsible for the retaliation of a few? Was Claire to blame for what her husband did? If not, should all whites be lumped together and judged by the actions of a few? What about the reverse as a stereotype?

There was nothing animalistic about the aboriginal response to what happened, but there did seem to be a generation difference... the young ones more inclined to judge white actions from a white point of view, compared with the elders saying they should let Claire be, and let her stay for the ceremony.

More importantly, what does that final smoking ceremony say about the way aboriginal people — especially the elders — traditionally process stuff? Personally, I have been taught that learning is a process of one person handing fixed information and experiences to others — but there IS room in this country for people who still sit back and wait for others to learn in their own way and in their own good time. Shifting ideas about what is wrong and what is forgivable are the substance of this movie, and the aboriginal characters have as much right as any others to make up their own minds and grow over time.
[Though the idea "if it's not charity, what are you trying to buy?" was pretty close to one of my top ten sfavourite nappy responses of all time]


Was Claire supposed to be American or not? It has been said the American accent began as an Irish accent distorted by the melting pot, so at first I was unsure, which was distracting. Then I simply decided it didn't make any difference to the story where her accent came from. Claire was wearing a Claddagh ring, and joined in the prayer when the cross was renewed, so I accepted that she had a common history and cultural foundation with Stuart and his mother. Anyway, I have listened to Meryl Streep strangle her vowels in Evil Angels and survived, so I reckon my ears can cope with just about anything.

Why so much Irishness in Jindabyne? Ironically enough, the aboriginal girl who is murdered at the beginning of the story has an Irish surname... quite to be expected in the context of Australian history. [The parallels between Irish and Aboriginal 200 years ago are legion].

But in this movie the question arises "where does religion end and superstition begin?" Here is an Irish mechanic who prays before he eats but ignores his religion's major rules about burying the dead [one of the 7 corporal works of mercy]. Well, it's a sort of Roman Catholic totally adapted to pagan Irish tradition... where isthe line between religion and cultural overlay?]

As with the gasping trout, Stuart just doesn't grasp the idea that life is a whole sequence. It ain't over just cos it's dead, or cos hope has died. Death is not complete without acknowledgement and then a sendoff [and don't the Irish do this BIG for their own...] and it is during the send off at the end of the movie that all of those little sub plots starts to make sense... the aborigines let go, Cailyn-Calandria lets go, Jude let's go... and the whole is nicely finished.

Our human relationships with each other are so tenuous... someone is murdered and we question the motives of the fishermen, not on just one level, but by questioning their attitude to colour, gender, and whether the victim was a stranger or not. We can be endlessly creative when it comes to finding "reasons" to hate, or even while searching for reasons to forgive others for what they have done or failed to do.


The most stunning and rewarding and impressive part of this whole movie, for me, was the sheer magnitude of Claire's capacity to live by her own values, including a conviction that when a wrong is done, we are obliged to do a right.

As for the "who-dunnit and will-he-get-away-with-it" part of the story, who cares if Parky the sparky has an anaphylactic reaction to the wasp sting at the end of the movie? The murder is just a device to allow people to be seen being themselves and processing lifes random tests.
[and may Chris Hayward keep bobbing up in Australian movies for years to come... if he's in the cast, the movie is never a dud.]

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Thank you for that response...
For me this film is a sad, telling and much needed allegory describing European Colonisation and resulting settlement in Australia.... i am presently writing a paper on this subject and will post shortly.

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The Aussies make a lot of first-rate movies, so I doubt if this is the "best one ever". But hype or no, it certainly sounds with my time.

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Saw it yesterday during the AFI judging screenings - and was very impressed. I think it is actually better than Lantana!

All the performances were excellent and Laura Linney stood out (but i am biased - i think she is wonderful in everything she does).

This is the sort of film that does well at the Oscars - if it gets the right promotion it may score a few noms... that's how good it is.











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I've seen the previews of this film on the internet and I'm anxious to see it too but I live in Canada and I doubt it will be distributed here. It should be out at the video stores here sooner or later, like most Aussie films are, so I'll have to wait until then. However, it did just have 2 screenings here in Toronto at the recent Toronto International Film Festival but I wasn't able to attend either screening due to my work schedule. On the day of the first screening our local paper had a full page writeup interview with Laura Linney talking about her experience making this film, so that was nice to see. I have to admit, though that I have another reason for wanting to see Jindabyne...a good friend of mine, Katie Brianna, recorded a song that is in the film called Jindabyne Fair. It'll be great to see her name in the closing credits and I want to hear this song. She is only 18 and is a great young singer!

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Laura Linney stood out (but i am biased - i think she is wonderful in everything she does).
That's objective fact, not bias.

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i am a big fan of australian movies, however, this movie has got to be one of the biggest piles of manure that i've seen. the hype and attention that was given to this production totally sucked everyone in to thinking it was worth paying $ to see.
the continual bringing up of massive issues was comletely wasted in that none of the questions raised were answered. i've heard it said that that was the intention of the director, to get the audience to use their imagination... bollocks to that! that is what books are for. the was a massive failure to communicate anything in this movie. the acting and roles played were well done, BUT, there is more to a movie than actors.

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you are a fool.this is the best movie brought to the world in a long time.it will win many an oscar in the future.just you wait and see.may god bless your ignorance.

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Saw this at the VIFF & while I don't think its quite as bad as all that, I was very let down by this film. It could have been so much more. It had a great cast and concept but it fell way short of my expectations. It had what could have been a very dramatic and emotional storyline and made it rather dry and conventional. Not bad but highly overrated.

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I used to live in Jindabyne but I don't anymore but I live near Jindabyne now. My dad works at the National Parks in Jindy and helped with movie and my brother was there for work experience coz he really wants to be a director and he said Laura Linney is the nicest person EVER and she just talks to you like a regular person, I really want to meet her. I saw the movie and it was really good I want to see it again, o and also the guy that killed the girl, the house he lived in my mum knows the people that own the house so it's cool to finally know people that are interested in this movie about a little town like Jindabyne, so I recommend for people to see it. Hope you like it, also you should go down to Jindabyne the best place.

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No sir.. I don't like it, A total mess, as we neared the end of the film I said to my wlfe "kill me now" she said, "no kill me" If we hear the word "Jindabyne" we hold our heads and start moaning, we thought that girl would never stop singing

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I agree, this was a terrible film.

Gratuitous overuse of the slow fade, annoying characters (Laura Linney's being the biggest) and pointless development of characters who contributed little or nothing to the flow of the story.

I want those 2+ hours back.

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"by pmatusko (Sat Oct 14 2006 03:19:47 )
you are a fool.this is the best movie brought to the world in a long time.it will win many an oscar in the future.just you wait and see.may god bless your ignorance."

Unfortunately, the imdb boards are rife with this kind of ludicrous post. Apparently if you disagree with another's opinion it's okay to berate them, call them names, and generally belittle them. In doing so, pmatusko (and others of your ilk), you say far more about yourself than you do about anyone else.

This film wasn't great and it wasn't the worst, but it wasn't very good. A great idea turned tedious and dry, as others have said. Laura Linney's character was, as someone else already said, "sickeningly self-righteous". She had the typical "white man" attitude that, even though the Aborigines had made it clear she wasn't welcome, not only did she return to their home she had the audacity to show up at their grieving ceremony for Susan, claiming she wanted to pay her respects. A better way to "show respect" would have been to respect the family's wishes and stay away. There we so many other things that didn't make sense or were annoying, but the film isn't even worth stating them.

No, pmatusko, this film will NOT "win many an oscar", nor is it the "best movie brought to the world in a long time." Hyperbole like that causes easily led people to waste money on mediocre films like this one.

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I haven't watch this movie and do not intend to. People should really learn how to say something properly. Quotes like "best movie brought to the world in a long time", "win many oscar", "pile of crap". From all these comments, I don't think this movie is as good or as bad said. Especially the part on winning many oscar. What if it doesn't win any oscar? You wanna eat your own crap for saying such "hyperbolic" comment? Can't you people comment or critique for what it's worth instead of crapping all over the place like some 10 year old?

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Much of the time people do the best they can in expressing their feelings. A lot of people find words for emotions or feeling very hard to come by. It is probably one reason why there are so many problems in the world---miscommunication. Writing people off because they don't express themselves in a matter which you think is intelligent doesn't do much to foster good communication either.

As far as the movie goes, I never go by what even the "professional" critics say about a movie. I know if it looks like it would appeal to me or if it has actors who I like to watch and then I decide for myself to see it or not. But not to see a movie just because you didn't like how other people expressed their feelings about it seems like you might miss out on a lot of good movies.

Karen

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While Australian films iften have character development way and above anything that Hollywood can produce, they are often let down by plot. In this case, Jindabyne is let down by both, the lead characters are over-developed and unrealistic, while the plot looks like it is based on a twenty-four page short story padded to nearly two hours. It would have been better had the Linney character not been mentally unstable, because once or twice she truly does speak the essence of her do-nothing husband and their dead relationship. Unfortunately, the mental issues she suffers means she spends most of her time in melodrama. The husband is as she describes in the powerful dialogue scene, where the beer and sex reference comes out, but that scene is too little too late.

So much more could have been done, because so many couples are living lives of quiet desparation, not in love with each other but somehow married and raising children together. Walk around the streets of any city or town and you'll see these couples: blank looks, empty grey relationships. Take this scenario without the mental issues and the meddlesome mother-in-law, and then use the dead girl to deconstruct the relationship. It would be harder to write, but the end result is something many could relate to.

From the maker of Lantana, a brilliant and shining film, this one is a second-rate effort. Not horribly awful, but not particularly good either.

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I agree with moreymark that Lantana is a far superior film. Jindabyne was good in it's own right and very disturbing at times. Gabriel Byrne and Laura Linney were also fantastic but I couldn't help think there was just something minor missing from the film. The main thing is that it didn't quite keep me gripped throughout the whole time, but Lantana definitely did, I cared about the characters in it much more and was genuinely shocked as events unfolded. Jindabyne was also a bit long and had too many uninteresting moments. Again to refer back to Lantana (it's difficult not to as they're very similar), this was not the case, every scene was very important and the characters were built perfectly. And the most important factor, dare I say it, Anthony LaPaglia and Kerry Washington were better than Gabriel Byrne and Laura Linney, there was just more to their characters and they shared a truly complex relationship. I didn't quite feel the same thing with Byrne/Linney even though they both delivered very good performances. However, Jindabyne is definitely worth a watch but if you want something similar but better in almost every aspect, catch Lantana.

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