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What do you think of that bizarre sex-shot at the end of the film??


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The film had this rather strange and disturbing last shot. After one or two seconds of black, the audience gets to see the final shot of a small open building and you hear Vinicio pant like he is having sex with the kid. I found that very extreme and daring of the director...

The goal of the shot is to make clear that he really ís the killer, of course, but I don't know if it was a brave move of the director or just really bad taste. What do you think?

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I think brave of the director because it was information that the audience needed and he wasnt afraid to shy away. It was difficult subject matter throughout the film and I think that by not giving use a gruesome visual at the end but rather by just showing a hut and adding in the moan leaves everything to the audiences imagination. I think the director was brilliant in how he brought forth the expose.

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I thought it was depressing! On DVD it gives us 2 shocking endings, tho. The one you are referring too left me feeling sad & depressed imaging what kids go thru in real life with monster like that. Wold have been nice if I could have walked away feeling rejoiced because the bad guy was caught but I guess the director wanted o keep it real & leave something on our minds!

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Next time you are going to reveal the end of the movie please aleart everyone please. It is almost as annoying as the time a video clerk told me that everyone in the sixth sense was dead while I was considering renting it.

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If you see this at the top of a post, or in the subject:

"(Spoilers!!) "

Then you should not read it, unless you want to see the film revealed.

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Damn! Thanx for spoiling the sixth sense... Now I'll know how it ends before I even start watching it, that's pretty lame.

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lol

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WHAT. EVERYONE IN THE SIXTH SENSE IS DEAD???
Next time you are going to reveal the end of the movie please aleart everyone!!!
YOU SUCK..

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Tungusqa, I disagree that the goal of the final shot was to make it clear that he really is the killer. I thought that was fairly evident from the opening scenes. Cleaning himself up, packaging the evidence and showing the hut with flys buzzing around were convincers to me. I believe the goal was to show that after all that happened and was learned throughout the movie, he was still in operation.

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I think its just supposed to reinforce the horrible decision of the reporters in not turning in him in.

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I think it's a glimpse of what the reporters are thinking : they imagine what would the murderer do to children, but don't dare to dig the feeling because they purposely decided to look the other way.
Yet this image will be enough to haunt them (and us !) with guilt and remorses.

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el final es magnifico: Manolo huye como un heroe sabiendo que un niño es vitimado por el monstruo y peor aun sabiendo que el pudiera haberlo salvado. los creditos comenzaron y me senti mal pero con gusto de ver una gran pelicula.

The end was magnificent: Manolo ran away as a hero knowing that while he's leaving a little boy is killed and raped by the monster and he could save him.
the credits started and i felt bad but grateful to see that greate movie

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I aggree the ending was great and shocking at the same time.

The movie was so and so though.

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I was a bit disappointed. I thought the movie was grim but brave, especially the end (before the last shot) - watching the journalist walk away, everyone thinking he's a hero, but the audience knows he completely sold his soul - no redemption for him or his team, no redemption of the situation (American movies NEVER do that). But then to have what I thought was a totally gratuitous shot added to the end, and so obvious, like the director thought we were too stupid to understand what the whole movie was about if he didn't S-P-E-L-L I-T O-U-T. I think any audience member who would take the time to watch this movie didn't need that shot!

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Umm...you guys are all missing the meaning of the scene.
It's to provide a sharp counter-point to the birth scene that ocurred several minutes before. Recall that we hear his wife panting (and moaning) very hard, and bringing Vinicio's son into the world.
Minutes later, we hear Vinicio panting, and almost certainly taking the life of her son.
C'mon, people. The director wouldn't've just thrown away as powerful a scene as a woman giving birth. Did you all even remember what went on before the ending?

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I don't see how this last shot could be considered a "bizarre sex-shot", but I see what the OP is saying.
But unrepped seems to have hit the nail on the head.

This whole movie was meant to disturb.
The lynching scene was on of the most tense and disturbing scenes I have seen in ahwile. And I thrive on disturbing cinema.

Great movie.

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A disgusting ending... but very good, nonetheless.


All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

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I believe that some are missing the fact that the movie is based on true events. Look up and read information on the real "monster of the andes". It's much more disturbing than the film. http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/lobez.htm

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yeah, me and my friends thought it was meant to counter the birth that had just happened.

had to watch this in ap spanish...while it was a good movie, I can't say I enjoyed watching it because of what it touched on.

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I agree completely with your take on this.

The final scene... and the scene leading up to it, where he was supposed to be saying goodbye to his adopted son, showed how he was unable to control his urges.

Once he took a long swig of alcohol, he turned and hugged the boy, holding him to him, but the hug went on too long.

Then we don't see them again, only see the hut, and hear the sounds.

It is a deeply disturbing scene and setup.

The director handled it brilliantly, confirming that "less is more."

For days I could not stop thinking about that scene... the hut, and the sounds.

It really got under my skin, and I assure you, it's not for everyone.

But the film is, perhaps more than anything, an amazing vehicle for Damián Alcázar, who plays "the monster."

His scenes with Leguizamo, wherein he tells of his "friend", are just mind-blowing.

This man has earned his Oscar, and it's a crime that he didn't even get a nomination.

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>>But the film is, perhaps more than anything, an amazing vehicle for Damián Alcázar, who plays "the monster."

His scenes with Leguizamo, wherein he tells of his "friend", are just mind-blowing.

This man has earned his Oscar, and it's a crime that he didn't even get a nomination.<<

Totally agree with you ~ the expressions on his face as he really got into telling Monolo the story were about as subtly creepy as anything I have seen. And yet there was that tiny bit of doubt along the way.

The man was amazing!!! (Also like Leguizamo as well ~ was surprised at his Spanish - didn't think he did THAT badly).

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I have to agree with those who thought this movie to be very thought provoking and well made. The final scene of the hut was, in my opinion, done very tastefully considering what some tasteless directors would have shown. Ones imagination can suggest what we don't see is much worse than if we had actually seen it. So to the person who said Less is More, I totally agree.

As for those who can't seem to understand why some directors don't end a story the way we all want it to end, that being the bad guy gets caught and we all see him hang for his crimes, you have to understand the subtle hints that we were given to suggest this "monster" finally got what was coming to him.
The most obvious hint was of course that fact that his last victim was his own stepson who he had picked up from school. If the police couldn't figure it out just from that, then they lack the intelligence to be police and deserve whatever they get. Another hint, not as revealing, was when Vinicio's wife is watching the news report on television while bleaching the shirt he had given to Robert. The reporter mentioned a red checkered shirt the latest victim was wearing when he disappeared. The red tint in the water where she was bleaching the shirt suggested, at least to me, that she was beginning to become concerned herself. The very beginning of the film shows him bleaching a red checked shirt until the red checks are gone but a slight red tint still remains.

And one more hint I got out of the ending, was when the female producer refused to walk with Manolo but instead walked behind him to the plane giving me the impression that once they were safe back in Miami she would reveal the truth to someone. She was obviously very distraught and upset that they had allowed Robert to be the last victim and did nothing to save him.

Yes they were scared they could be held as accomplices simply because during their entire interviews they suspected this guy of being the killer but never gave any info to the police. And Manolo had demanded, begged and pleaded with Victor NOT to show the report about Vinicio because he knew what would happen if the interview was shown, and that was pretty much what did happen. He was released from prison. And the public would have crucified Manolo for garnering all this sympathy and support for this killer and getting him released to kill again, knowing he was the killer.

So while we never actually see Vincicio get caught and punished, we can assume that Robert was in deed his final victim and he pretty much knew it would be. After all, how could anyone not know that the first suspect in any killing is the last person the victim saw. At least in most cases that is the first suspect.

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I loved the ending. It was perfect. That long shot of Don Manolo walking to the airplane with that really cool song playing in the background was great. And then it all stops and you just see this image of a stone hut and you hear the sound of someone panting/moaning. It's subtle, but it's obvious to the viewer that Vinicio is the Monster.

I don't know if anyone else felt this way, but I actually thought he was raping his own son in the last scene. The scene preceding that where he is talking to his son and says something like "I didn't want it to be this way, but I have to do it" made it seem like that was the case. Plus, the fact that he was drinking and was with his son in the middle of the woods really led me to believe that. Anyone else get this vibe?

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Yes - that's what everyone here was saying.

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