Did anyone crap their pants and start shout during the Stalingrad mission?
I played it full blast surrond sound and the first time I played it and it dawned on my their were 2 men to every rifle I was in shock.
By the time general made his '1 step backwards' speech I was cheering my head off calling the germans facist scum.
Anything like that happen to you while playing the level?
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God, I loved Stalingrad, finaly a game that tells what really happened in WWII, the soviets took far more damage than America did, and did much of the fighting, i love the game simply because of stalingrad,
shareThe one rifle between two never happened in WWII. It's a myth created by that queer French guy who made Enemy at the Gates (which is so highly insulting and innacurate, veterans of Stalingrad had it banned in Russia).
But yeah, it's about time the side that fought 80 percent of Germany's forces got the recognition it deserves in the West.
I can safely say that Stalingrad was the most respectful and epic battle in World War 2. the massive amout of Russian soldiers that died, most of being between the ages of 17-20, and half the army having weapons, this battle and whole war is truly a great campaign, and indeed needs the immense respect to the Allied soldiers and fought, died, and survived during this war.
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half the army having weapons
"Show me a decent hisorical source that proves that only half the Red Army carried weapons. Can't find any? Thought so"
Oh jeez, if you were the leader of a country that was so ill prepared for war, that they had to send half their men to battle unarmed, and know of the big outcry that would happen if the world knew about it, would you really allow information like that to get out? And I dont want to hear anything about how we "know" it now, im talking about just after WW2. With the victory that the Soviets had, don't you think they would rather the rest of the world focus on how the Motherland beat back the Nazis? Rather than focus on the fact that a good percentage of the Soviet soldiers killed in Stalingrad were killed by their own officers, and the ones that were killed by the Nazis were killed due to the lack of training and the lack of weaponry that they had?
Of course you cant find a lot of info on it, Stalin probably hushed it up.
yeah, and this happened in WWI too, the Tsarist Russia was equally (if not even worse) unprepared for the German invasion. It is not difficult at all to imagine that a good percentage of soldiers were THIS ill-equipped.
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rbhardware_05,
Now that Stalin is dead along with the Soviet Union, why don't Red Army veterans admit the stuff in Enemy at the Gates is true? Why, instead, did they lobby for the film to be banned in Russia due to inaccuracies?
Why? Because compared to these veterans, neither I, nor you, nor the creators of Enemy at the Gates/CoD know jack all about the Eastern Front.
If a Red Army veteran says there this movie is bull, then IT IS BULL.
exactly assassin, just because there isnt a viable source of information on the topic doesent mean it's automatically okay to just assume it happened, that's a rather weak method of guaging history. if the vets said it was crud and they were in that given theatre then I'd be WAY more inclined to believe them
shareI remember that mission the first time i played it i saw all my guys run and get killed so quickly that i ran back and got shot to death by my own guys...
shareAs I understand it, Soviet forces were well supplied most of the time. The Soviets did everything they could to maximize factory output, and if you look at the production figures, the differences really are astonishing. For example, more Soviet T-34s were built than all of the notable German tanks combined, to say nothing of small arms.
Situations where weapons or ammunition were in short supply did, no doubt, happen, but it was by no means par for the course.
I don't think anybody have mentioned that Red Army troops recived their weapons after training (yes, there was training), and weren't herded into battle like cattle. They didn't fight (for the most part) because they had weapons to their backs, but actually wanted to drive back the invasion.
Wow. Imagine that.
Absolutely right, you have to remember the Soviet population took this war very personally, as it was fought on their own territory, the civilians who died were their relatives. I hardly think a soldier would need more encouragement than that to get back at the 'fascist dogs'.
Besides, if Americans were prepared to fight an enemy they held no personal grudge against thousands of miles away (Germany has never attacked Americans on American soil), why wouldn't Russians be prepared to fight an enemy that stood in the motherland?