A crazy thought, what if there was a game in the German perspective? There have been many VG's in which you play as Russia, England, and other allied powers, but what if you can play within the eyes of a German soldier? I think it wouldn't be that bad, but of course you don't win the war. However, it would be a cool game in my opinion. Discuss?
-head
I've seen many a discussion about this ((espeically on gamefaqs.com)) so I'm all worn out from giveing my answers...but a lot of people tend to like the idea...but nobody thinks it would fly, what game company wants to put you in the boots of the "bad guy" so to speak? meh *shrugs*
share"boots of the "bad guy" so to speak?"
But aren't we all just sick and tired of playing the good guy?! I know i am. Thats why i saw Black and white as a blessing, because you could finally be a bad guy, and it was a hell of alot of fun!
I think it would be a great idea to introduce some of the more successful German campaigns in the next CoD game. If there will be one of course!
-----
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it
It's all really moronic this moral blabber, GTA anyone? Yeah, we're tired of playing the good guy. But I agree, ww2 fps from a german POV for teh win!
So long as you showed the guy as being a normal german solider and not an SS super-nazi it should be alright.
Also, wouldn't the fact that you're a bad guy be kind of, you know, down-played by the fact that you know they will lose in the end?
I like movies
Well It's a bad idea shooting heros that liberated so many countries from evil nazi rule.I think(and many would)that it would be very disrespectful
I think that any of you out there that want to play as a Nazi need to pick up a book and find out for yourself why playing as one is a very bad thing
The Better You Look The More You See
I think a German POV would be a decent idea. After all, there are numerous sources telling stories of Nazi soldiers that felt they were just fighting for their country like any other nation would do.
As for Grand Theft Auto, that game is absolute crap. I find it to have shoddy graphics and it glorifies violence for all the wrong reasons.
i think the option of being a german or japanese in a world war 2 fps would be a great idea, but you wouldent be able to market an entire game around the fact that "You can be a nazi!. it just wouldent sell and cause conterversary. But if call of duty 3 came out and had a axis option meaning you could play from eather the allied or axis point of view,that be a good idea.
I totally disagree that it would be a 'great' idea. To commercialise what would essentially be a nazi view point would desensitise the atrocities commited by them in the war. I know I wouldn't want to be firing against my Grandfather on Dday. We should never forget what they did for us. Would anyone suggest a VG done in the point of view of a suicide bomber? I think not.
There is a modification for call of duty it is called German Front Mod you can download it here: http://germanfrontmod.justgamers.de/index.php?sektion=2
shareDon't the Germans feel disrespected when you possibly kill their grandfather. Think about that.
TAHDAH
[deleted]
Well, I was thinking, you could be a German or a Japanese, but after all this controversy and being abandoned during a firefight after you're seriously hurt, you become a POW. Then later, they recruit you for frontline stuff, with like a 'handler' to make sure you don't shoot the Allies... It's a pretty dumb idea (using your enemy) and probably never happened, but it's an idea :D
shareBy the way, my great-grandfather served in WWII in the US Navy. But I do have relatives in Germny, so they could have fougt in the war, too. But I don't think anyone should feel disrespected. Just play the game.
TAHDAH
[deleted]
I agree totally, and I think I have a solution.
You really only have to be careful as to the plot of the game, who you play as, and where/who you fight against. In these parameters, then, I would say that it would be best to be a German Heer (regular army) soldier (really low down on the ladder, like a corporal or a PFC... Hell, even a sergeant would work, if you compose it well into the story), and put him in the Eastern front (AKA: Russia).
The thing is, the Soviets were really total bastards during the war as well. Whenever you play as a Russian in games like this, you don't constantly think about the gulags and the millions MORE people that Stalin had killed the whole time, do you? No. And being a German who kills Russians instead of Americans takes care of the whole "shooting at my countrymen" problem for the US market, which is undoubtedly where this would be intended to sell (it'd really work in any market except Russia, really).
Most of these WWII fps games are already story-based as it is (which, IMO, makes them awesome, like being in a war movie). Construct the plot to set up an "exposition" campaign that sort of details where you are and why.
Here's a barebones idea for a plot (heck, base one partly off of a true story if that'll help marketing or interest or whatever):
1) You are a German Sgt. in the Heer on the Russian front. You fight a series of missions within a moderately-sized campaign in, say, 1943 in one of those battles, such as Kursk, or whatever. Eventually, you have to pull out with heavy losses. This level should set up (through a personal narrative or diary) that you aren't sure if you believe what you are fighting for is good.
2) A second mission set (possibly involving a lot of in-game movies) wherein you are captured by the allies. Maybe some training exercises, who knows. You are recruited, dirty-dozen style, for this mission to go back into the Fatherland and assassinate a top Nazi leader. Somewhere during this, your character learns of the atrocities being committed by soviets on their march toward Berlin. Your character feels that he must return to protect his family who lives there.
3) A third campaign in which, through a series of missions, you make your way, cloak-and-dagger-like back into Germany, and kill the leader. The last level should involve extracting back to the allies. However, your character feels that he must instead escape back to his family to help them get out of Germany before the Soviets get there. Have an objective like "Get a written message to one of your defector-buddies that explains what you have done". Steal a car and high-tail it to Berlin.
4) Basically, a fourth campaign wherein you sneak into Berlin just as the fighting starts, a mission where you find your family and then another where you escape (of course, fighting back the advancing Russians the whole way).
5) Some sort of closing movie that explains that you hooked back up with the allied forces, moved your family to England or the US or wherever, and lived happily ever after.
As long as you aren't killing Americans, and it is stressed in the plot that you love your country, but don't like the Nazis and you don't believe in what they are doing, etc. As long as it's still critical of them, you know.
If you play your cards right with the plot and characterization, it could sell not only as an original idea, but as a "different view", how there are no good wars, only good soldiers, etc. I think you get what I mean.
So this is just an idea for any one who's in the gaming business or whatever, I have no copywright or anything, JUST TAKE THIS IDEA AND RUN WITH IT! WE WILL BUY IT!!!
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
i dont think a campaign like that will sell any less as in multiplayer you spend half the time shooting allies...
maybe crushing Russians early on but finding yourself completely surrounded and fighting to the death in Stalingrad
"bad guy"? "good guy"? oh my god give me a break.
The only real "bad guys" were the SS and the Japanese. The tipical German soldier wasnt a bad guy. They were fighting men like everyone else was, they were just fighting blindly for a crazy dictator.
But to answer your question i think it would be great to play as a german soldier in the Campaign mode. i would like to see OPERATION: Barbarossa, the invasion of Russia, or the invasion of Poland., i also think the Battle of the Bulge would be neet to see throgh the eyes of a german soldier.
yeah that would be different but if they went for complete realism people would complain because there would stuff like "Heil Hitler" and stuff
shareWell, the main reason for me is simply variation. There is no aspect of WW2 that hasn't been covered by the game industry, except from a german point of view. My ideal ww2 game is, always has been and always will be, german soldier, private or corporal, who is actually an American, who was born in Germany but raised in America, possibly he moved back to Germany when his father died. (this is to increase the interest in the main character, and also might make for some interesting prisoner scenes a la Band of Brothers) The game would start off in Poland, maybe take the whole first 1/6 of the game just being the invasion of Poland (another big thing is this game would be *loooooooong*), then France (I've many time envisioned a scene where you march through Paris with lines of tiger tanks rolling past you).
If it were me, I think I would maybe skips the eastern front, but I would probably have some of the side characters moved there, the main theme of the game not being actual fighting, but growing fond of your fellow soldiers in your company, and they follow you from start to finish, with exceptions for casualties of course.
As the game progresses into 42, 43 and 44, you go through denmark, Italy and possibly North Africa, and end up back in France, defending the western front from the americans. The game would end with your regiment's leader disbanding them and telling you to do whatever you whish. You and a few other soldiers decide to head for the american lines and surrender. Here, I'm not sure but I think I would have one of your fellow soldiers accidentally get shot by a jumpy American GI. Why? Cause war his hell.
I really wouldn't even touch the Nazi thing. Apart from Heil Hitlers and swaztikas, cause, y'know, they kinda were everywhere... But I would just make the game focus on the soldiers, the men, and the player's relationship to the NPC's. Cause that's what so many game fail with. Particularly most WW2 FPS.
I like movies
"..german soldier who is actually an American.."
Makes no sense, just absolutely pointless.
Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on these boards.
A French campaign? I'm pretty sure gamers play these video games to shoot people and win battles, not get dogged by every single enemy that fights you.
share[deleted]
It would cause a huge controversy, and the whole time you'd know that your side was going to lose anyway. The first time you hit a really tough level, you'd just say "Screw this" and chuck the game. Well, I would. It would be interesting to have something new, yeah, but I doubt it'd fly well with most people.
share