American indie movie scene will with the best attempts always be just far behind European scene. I mean, making a slow movie with rich New York click, lot of gay clishes and bad weather can't help. Where is the idea? Where is the logic? I just watched it because I like Rufus Wainwright music, but it didn't help. Better go see Brokeback Mountain, at least they offer a proper love scene.
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This movie isn't the best I've ever seen but you're painting with such a broad brush you're bound to look like a fool in this instance. Along that line, I could just as easily say, hey, "European" indie movies are all about people's narcissistic navel-gazing at their own sexual neuroses and a lot of heavy breathing. It's bad news when every foreign film has the word "erotic" in the tag line. Their self-indulgent filmmakers apparently can't get past their own hang-ups. Oh no, a woman in a sparkless marriage is sexually repressed and has a steamy affair with some seedy guy, those cutting edge Europe types, America is clearly behind them if cutting edge means flogging the same dead horse for 30 years. Catherine Brelliat and other movies like Maitresse in the 1970s, fast forward 30 years, it's the same old, same old.
Wow, that broad brush is easy to wield. But what's with using this movie to crap on an entire culture? Hey, look at the "Horseman on the Roof" man, those French sure do suck ass. How about those sorry-ass Asia Argento vehicles, man, those Italians don't know ****. Look at that confectionary sack of crap "Everybody's Famous!" I don't know if it's from Belgium, but that movie obviously proves Belgium is a wasteland.
I think I've made it obvious the problem with using one movie to bag on an entire country's work.
this was one of those annoying movies that just forces you to stay and stick with the movie until the end. the kind of movie that you just happen to come across whilst zapping mindlessly and ends up being completely addictive.
don't get me wrong, i thought it was a very good movie. i just wish i hadn't been starving and impatiently awaiting the end to go cook some food so i could actually enjoy it.
apparently any sort of medium/slow paced movie based on dialogue and people (a social movie) is seen as wannabe european. we really should stop equating american movies to bombs and guns, and european movies to psychological hangups and nudity.
it's a dirty world Reich, say what you want
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Not claiming to know much about the Euro indie scene, I think a bare-essential, bread-and-butter American indie like this is pretty darn good.
I liked the characters and story, even the rather underambitious ideas(Be happy, be honest, take risks, et al). And the mood is set well by the oxymoronic "indie cliches."
And, although this is a cheap argument in this case, its better than the mainstream.