Iraq Satire


I just wanted to check whether or not I was the only one who thought that this game was a blatent comment on the situation in Iraq (pre-election). The whole story of the world's only super-power (in this case the Soviet Union) going around 'liberating' the rest of the world and converting them to the Soviet style government seemed very familiar to me. I also noticed that there was quite a lot of references made trying to distinguish between 'freedom fighters' and 'terrorists'.

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Except for all the Iraqis who have been blowing up and attacking the 'Coalition' troops you mean?


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Or the ones left dead as casultys of war.

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I never saw the entire population of the US fighting in 'Freedom Fighters', only a small band of rebels. So I would say the comparison stands.

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The goal in both cases, as far as I can see, seems to be getting rid of a foreign power which claims to be 'liberating' the people of a country while all they are doing is switching the political process of that country to match the political process of the foreign power. Just because a side is fighting for democracy it doesn't automatically make them right, or the situation vastly different than if they were fighting for the other side. Democracy and Communism (or Totalitarianism in the case of Iraq) are just two different sides, two opposing views. In the game the claim was made that communism had spread across the world due to the USSR which (in my eyes at least) satirises the current US foreign policy of exporting democracy across the globe. The thing that cemented the satire theory for me was the news reports in the game that were blatently one sided and seemed to be an obvious attack at the US reporting of wartime events in Iraq.

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I definately felt an Iraq comparison, esspecially in the statement "We are here to restore order, not disrupt it".

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if an equal percentage of Americans in FF liked the Soviet invasion as Iraqis like the American invasion, if not a greater one. Afterall, the invasion didn't seem resisted too much by our army. Who the hell let's their army get weak when the freaking Soviet Union is invading the world? Someone who likes the Soviet Union.

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I don't think it was a satire of Iraq. It kinda stuck in my head when the one guy said "I didn't care very much about being American untill now."

I think a lot of Americans didn't untill 9-11 (Hear me out)

I think the idea behind the game was that it shouldn't take a national disaster (9-11 in the real world, the invasion in the game) to remind us of who we are.

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I would say that this is the exact opposite of the war in Iraq. The Soviets are invading to America to bring down our democratic government and replace it with a government tha represses civil liberties and is like a totalitarian government. In Iraq, we are invading to depose a totalitarian government that replaces civil liberties with a democratic government.

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I would say that this is the exact opposite of the war in Iraq. The Soviets are invading to America to bring down our democratic government and replace it with a government tha represses civil liberties and is like a totalitarian government. In Iraq, we are invading to depose a totalitarian government that replaces civil liberties with a democratic government. The insurgents (in this case, more commonly known as the resistance) in this game are fighting to restore a democratic government while the insugents in Iraq are fighting to restore a totalitarian government.

By the way, I posted this post before I read daedalus1337's post.

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Everything is defined by it's opposite as it highlights the differences and the similarities. The type of government doesn't really matter as it is the peoples' reaction to the invasion that is being looked at, and how someone can be defined as a freedom fighter or a terrorist depending on what side you are viewing them from.

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the point(whoever started this idea) is trying tomake is that in the soviet's eyes Chris is a terrorist just like in our eyes the iraqi fighters are. I am not supporting muslim extremists here, in fact i despise terrorists, however the point is that the similarity is there. On another note there are freedom fighters all over the world so no need to get stuck up about the time differences of war in iraq and the game.

Remember democracy is not the perfect system (the FACT is, and this is not simply my opinion that communist ideas are atually the best, the problem is that no one has actually had a "real" communist state and also Communism is NOT supposed to be opressive the people made it the way it is) So how do u actually know thta the soviets in the FF universe did not have the best intentions ?

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I didn't see in of the Freedom Fighters in this game set of a carbomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent children. (like the so-called freedom fighters in Iraq)

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I said their were similarities not that they were exactly the same. I'm not trying to defend the actions of the current insurgents of Iraq, or the actions of anyone else for that matter. I just wanted to see if I wasn't the only one who saw distinct similarities between the 'Freedom Fighters' game and the war in Iraq.

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Sorry but could not help but laugh at the person who said Iraqs want the US there.........the US has censored or diffrent news to the rest of the world?

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When exactly was this game developed? Could be helpful in figuring out whether it's satirizing Iraq, or just American interventions overseas in general.

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The game came out in fall 2003. That seems to be too soon for it to be a satire of the war in Iraq (which started in March 2003).

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I seem to remember the news stations broadcasting that most Americans were overjoyed to be free of their corrupt capatilist oppressors in the game?

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I saw it as being more of a critique of the biased and one sided nature of Fox news.

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certainly america was ousting an oppressive totalitarian regime in iraq and people would be happy about that but their continued presence in iraq is probably giving people there the impression that the americans want to rule their country and naturally theyre not going to be happy about that. the situation is basically the same in freedom fighters except people are less likely to believe the soviets because america was never run by an oppressive totalitarian regime (as far as we know) despite the claims made by the russian news anchor

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"All I have to say is that

Iraq: Iraqis destroyed a massive statue of Saddam Hussein in direct celebration of what America had done

Freedom Fighters: You never see Americans tearing down the Statue of Liberty in celebration. "

Actually, the statue was pulled down by American troops, WHO THEN PROCEEDED TO DRAPE AN AMERICAN FLAG OVER IT. Until their commanding officer quietly told them to replace it with an Iraqi one...

I don't think it was intentional (at least not in the original phases of planning), but I DO think this game can be seen as a satire on the Iraq conflict. And please, people: don't keep clinging on to ideas that America went there to 'liberate'!

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