At the end of the movie Dolf went back...and didn't return? He had pills for three weeks...so, did he die after he ran out of pills? not a pleasing ending...I liked that he wanted to get jenne but this.... can someone explain?
shareThe way I interpreted was indeed that he returned and died in Jenne's arms as the drawing shows. Not a good ending at all in my opinion...
shareI think he didn't die. At the end of the film you see the same picutures of the book, but in reverse. The picture of Dolf in Jenne's arms is drawn after he freed the children. After that one you see him with the breads and the wolfs etc. Because there are pictures of Dolf before the one where he is lying in Jenne's arms, we knwow he didn't die on that picture.
Dolf went back, saved Jenne and went to Rome where his mother picked them up at the Colosseum. How all this was done can be seen in Crusade in Jeans Part II...
But no... Mary (Dolfs mother) says very clearly, :'I will pick you up in three weeks in the coloseum in Rome.' If Dolf ever makes it to Rome we don't know. The pictures at the end should show his trip to Rome.
But that's the thing...we don't know what happend...that's what's killing me...
shareI don't think he'd returned. On the 'pages' that are seen after he is send back for the 2nd time you see him in the arms of Jenne. He wasn't looking that well so I think it's fair to asume that he died and didn't make it back.
sharebut why would they let him die...
shareBecause the director changed half of the rest of the book so why not the ending as well...
I tolerated the rest of the movie but the ending... I sympathize, believe me. ;)
I think he in her arms was just a cute lovepicture, and not his death. He takes her to 2006, but that is not shown. So if you like you can pretend he couldn't return and died, but you can also pretend he took Jenne to his time and they lived happily ever after! ^^
I looove open ends like this.
/me shakes head in dismay...
If there is one thing I hate it's open ends ;)
As I stated before, I highly doubt that was a 'cute lovepicture'. To me it looked he didn't made it and succumbed to his death. Besides, how do we know the effects aren't vice versa for Jenne? Dolf's body couldn't handle timetravel on it's own (nor the monkey's) so why should Jenne's?
Besides, I know I'm getting a little off-topic here but 'removing' people from history by bringing back into this century is a bit irresponsible... Who knows what will/would have happened if Jenne doesn't stay in her own timeline...
I know I know, I'm reading to much in this but still ;p
Some people say... there will be a part two. I don't believe that ;)...But I know that the picture did NOT show.. dolf's dead. In Mediaeval they just draw like that! It looks kind a weird I know.. but this was just a love picture. If you don't believe me.. I asked the director (H). So... don't worry he's (in that picture) not dead... but who will know ;)... maybe there WILL be a part 2.
shareUch... the dismay...
The idea of a part two, how horrible :(
To me, movie-Dolf is dead. Book-Dolf lives! ;p
Okay, first of all.... a part two of this movie is a sick idea!!
Second... we can argue about what the ending is... It is an open ending, which means you, yes YOU, can decide how it ends. That's kinda the definition of an open ending.
I however, think that he took Jenne back to nowadays. By the way, was I the only one irritated by the fact that they added those pills in the movie? Where did it happen in the book, never!! Really an annoying story line.
Yeah those pills were kind of stupid. So your DNA becomes unstable after you teleport through time. So does that mean that after someone returns from being sent back in time, he has to take those pills for the rest of his life? I mean, by then he's been teleported twice so his DNA is even more unstable then.
Btw I'm also of the opinion that that one picture does not show Dolf dying. That's just the way they often drew people in love back then, one person in the arms of the other, staring in each other's eyes.
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Um...I see these posts are from 2006 and I just watched the movie in 2010 on dvd. Did they change the ending? Cause in the version I saw, it ends with him playing soccer, winning the game and with Jenne in the audience, dressed in modern clothes, and cheering for him.
shareThen why do we clearly see Jenne in the newpaper picture when Dolf is playing the football game. he must have gone back, saved her, brought her back and went back to the game to play it properly with her watching.
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well my daughter thinks that they left it like that to let the watchers decide what happens.
And it doesn't have to be a negative ending
I just came back from the cinema...I hate this open ending! But the point is I read the book, but that was 5 years ago so I forgot the ending of the book. Can some one tell me how it ended? But there wasnt a girl in the book -story right?! I seriously forgot it...
There wasn't a girl, he had a friend instead and he got back safely home to his parents and didn't go back another time.
shareOh ok, certain things are coming back to me now, and the friend died in the end..
shareNo, he survived as well ;)
shareNo but his best friend I mean..he died, right?! I just remember that someone died and I had to cry couse it was really sad!
shareOr I am a bit confused couse I also read "De gouden dolk", its a thea backman book aswell
shareAltough it has been a while since I read the book as well, I thought his best friend survived. It was Carolus that died among several other children he interacted with besides the countless of unnamed ones that died as well.
shareI think youre talking about Carolus, he died and its a very sad part of the book, makes me cry every time haha.
shareCarolus dies in the book, due to appendicitis.
Jenne does not exist in the book. Jenne is two people from the book made into one: Leonardo and Mariecke.
In the book, there are no pills. There's also no mother, Dolf's father is the scientist. Dolf goes back in time because the monkeys can't tell wether the experiments work and a human can.
This is my favourite childhood book. Read it countless times. I hate what they did to it in this movie. Hate it!
In the book, after Genua, the children travel on through Italy and the crusade slowly falls apart. IMO this part of the book was quite bland (the last third). In the end, Dolf's dad teleports small boxes near famous churches all though Italy, Dolf finds one, uses it to set an appointment and is brought back just in time (there was a procession due at exactly the time and place where Dolf was to be brought back).
I thought the ending was quite dissapointing. He shouldn't have gone back to Jenne. Silly ending, and even sillier his mom helped him after all she's gone through. The rest of the film was very satisfying.
shareI think he probably just returned after three weeks, probably with Jenne too.. Because he wouldn't he would die?
So he returned to the future with or without Jenne, or he died. Haha. Owh well, I like to believed he and Jenne both returned and they lived happily ever after. :P
But I don't think the pictures shown in the end were showing what was going to happen next. I think they were showing what had already happened. For example you could some wolves and Dolf giving out bread.
I think you could also see Dolf carrying Jenne, that part messes up my theory unfortunately. But they were definetely showing some pictures from what had already happend, I clearly saw the picture with all the bread again :P
I know these posts are from over 2 years ago but I just saw the movie today. The ending I saw showed --- SPOILERS :
Dolph going back for Jenne then continued on showing him winning the big game with Jenne in the stands cheering him on.
Of course any deep thought on this ending would bring about its own scientific and philosophical questions such as: If he won the big game he would never become upset and travel back in time in the first place. Perhaps that is why he returned to the game rather than his current present day timeline.
The problem nowadays with people is that they want stories to be well rounded off like episodes of a TV series. Grow up... it is an open end like most things in life... he goes back, he joins Jenne and the rest is up to them. He did get pills from his mother so he wouldn't be dying that quickly. This is a story about the crusade not Dolf's life. Go read the book and while you're at it check out other stories of Thea Beckman.
So did all you guys miss the part at the end where he's at the soccer game he went back in time for in the first place,and shoots the winning goal with whats-her-face cheering him on in the stands? Sheesh... He goes back in time a second time for her, and then they go back from Rome...and they live happily ever after in 2006.
I thought that was kinda made clear in the ending...
"I'm gonna make this pencil dissapear..." 8 )
WOW most of this thread is full of blind or partially sighted people. HE TOOK THE GIRL FORWARD IN TIME WITH HIM AND SET UP THE WINNING GOAL WHILE WE SEE HER CHEERING FROM THE STANDS. Wasn't that very clear? Apparently not to you numpties..
shareThey must have added that later because I JUST watched the DVD (like 30 minutes ago) and it did NOT end with Dolf winning his game. There are, apparently, two versions.
shareJust watched the movie here in the US, and the ending that I saw doesn't sound anything like what I'm reading on this post. The ending I had showed the football game (the one Dolf originally lost) again, only this time Dolf passed to his teammate and Holland won the match. There was a freeze-frame showing Dolf passing, and then the camera panned behind his shoulder and it showed Jenne in a t-shirt and jeans smiling. I thought that summed it up rather nicely, that he was able to get her, get back home, AND replay the match which is what he wanted in the first place.
I also agree that taking someone forward in time is a very bad idea, but based on the fact that his mom was able to research documents talking about Dolf in the 13th century, it should stand to reason that there was some mention in those same documents about him returning and getting Jenne.
BTW, I'm a Dutch-American. :) Loved this movie!
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Is there an alternate ending? That could be one explanation as to why some people "don't get it".
I just watched this on cable, and the last scene made it crystal clear that Dolf was able find Jenne and get back to his own time with her. I really don't see what's there 'not to get'.
Looking at the dates on the posts, the ending was changed between 2006 and its DVD release in 2009. Anyone know the background on how that came about?
shareThere are two versions of the movie. One has all the cuts the director made. Apparently, the director cut the original ending with the football game because it would be too long for cinemas and then put it back in for a DVD or something. The one I just saw didn't have the ending, but the one I watched before had both the ending and a few extra scenes.
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