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The Person with AIDs [huge huge HUGE spoilers]


Well, there would of course eventually be a board devoted to this episode, so I figured I might start it off. If you have not seen this episode, I I sincerly reccomend you wait til it airs monday on space. Seriously, no amount of summarizing can do this justice. I kid you not.

--Summary--

The episode starts with Morgan and a client at the diner. We have introduction, but it becomes clear through conversation that he sold his soul for luck in gambling (how origional). He origionally did this to get money to pay for his mothers morgage, but got sidetracked when his eyes got bigger than his stomach.

Anyway, we also learn that he ran away from Morgan for the most of his 48 hours, and in that time lost a lot of money to some particularily shady characters. They are left with 2 hours, so they go to find his mom, who probably took the rap from his deal. As they leave, Maya, who is waiting on them, picks up his phone, and notices the clock before giving it back. She and her coworker are then visited by her coworkers abusive husband. After he leaves it is revealed that he had stopped hitting her, because she stopped interfereing with certain "bedtime activities" between him and thier daughter.

Now if you can recall, after the Devil gave her a new body because she wrecked the old one, she underwent a little identity crises. When Maya goes back to the apartment, she does it again, as she looks at a picture, which we see the soon-to-turn-seven-and-get-molested Maya in both her origional childhood body(how she remembers the picture), and the one the devil gave her(how the picture looks now).

We then revisit Morgan and company, where they bump into a rather rude guy working for the mobsters with whom the client lost his money. He stabs Morgan, then tells the client that unless he can provide his boss with either $12,000 or the clients still-warm body, then he himself is going to get it. Then Morgan, now healed, comes up, and tears him a new one.

And... Commercial Break.

Back to the show, we find out that our friends mom is dead three years, and that the bad luck went to the mobster who got schooled by morgan earlier. Client goes nuts, screams and crys for 30 seconds before the portal pops open in a truck and sucks him up (the truck belonging to the same export company the Devil provided as a cover for Morgan.

Now this is where it all goes to hell (no pun intended).

As we watch the soul get grabbed by the moving truck, and literally dragged out of its body and down the street before getting reeled in, we see someone watching, which is odd, seeing as normal people cant see the portal. And if that isnt wierd, wait till she turns around. Maya.

Morgan starts to say something and she runs off looking horrified. Cue devil, as the Rapper from the begining of the series. Morgan, quite petrified, asks how she could see the portal. Only the Collector and the Client are supposed to see it, its in the 'rules'. The devil corrects him, saying that any client can see it, they just usually dont cross paths right at Crunch Time.

Cut to Maya at the apartment, very confused. Morgan comes in, theres a lot of arguing. Maya is wondering what the hell just happened, and Morgan is wondering why she's asking him what the hell just happened. (again, no pun intended. Enter Rapper Devil. Rapper Devil explains that maya made her deal in the begining when she was dying of AIDs (hence the title 'the person with AIDs'). apparently the deal was made while he and th rapper were fighting in the hallway, and Maya has no memory of it. As unfair as it seems, the devil says that even though she was unconsious, she still had a soul, and anyone with a soul can make a choice.

The phone rings, but everyone is to busy arguing to notice. Its Taylor, she leaves a voicemail. We also see some pictures of Mayas brother and Taylor and infer they have been dating. then, as she and Gabe are heading to bed, Gabe sees a little girl, who apears to be fading in and out, like a tv with a bad connection. She's crying, and looks miserable.

Back in the appartment, Maya and Morgan keep fighting, until she leaves. She then goes to work, where she asks her coworker about the abuse, and learns what she was afraid of, that it started 2 1/2 years before, on the girls 7th birthday. The day Maya made her deal. Imagine that.

From here on, stuff happens, Morgan tries to help the girl, Maya tries to kill the husband (who technically doesnt know why he does it), yadda, yadda, yadda, but the outcome is this. Maya and Morgan know the bad luck is the girl. Gabe sees her crying whenever her father touches her. Toward the end of the episode, we see the girls mother and father fighting over, literally having a tug of war with her arms. Gabe is in bed, and we see the ghost like image of the girl being pulled back and forth by the door. Then Gabe sees another figure. its essentially Mayas child-hood self. The origional one, not the blonde one. She's wearing a shirt that says Ayam in big, blue, letters, just to drive the point home.

Now we get a special treat. This is the only time we actually hear Gabe hold a conversation with anyone, outside of in 'the customer sevice rep', but that doesnt count, because he wasnt autistic in that particular situation. Ayam asks him why he doesnt do anything for the girl. He tells her he cant. She says how miserable the girl looks, and howhe should help, and he asks what he could do. then she turns away, and disappears. Whether this conversation takes place in reality as we see it, is open to interpretation. More likely, it took place on whatever level/frequency God, Satan, and the spirits operate on. The one Gabe sees.

Going back to Maya and Morgan, Maya is flipping out because the girl will suffer as long as Mays is still alive. Morgan says there's nothing they can do except wait for the last 48 hours, to try to save her soul. Maya, not wanting the girl to suffer for another 7 years, starts shouting for the devil, who promptly appears, dressed in a butler outfit, holding a silver platter containing of narcotics, and two glasses of ice water.

She demands that he take her now, and spare the girl. Morgan tells her that he cant do that, but the devil disagrees. He says that if a client asks it, morgan can take them early, with a small button on his phone (of course, that doesnt happen much). He also tells Maya that he is reseting the clock. She can have her ten years, or go straight to Hell. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Meanwhile the parents still fight, but the mother loses her grip. In his room, Gabe gets up, and grabs the shadow girls arm, just as the mother lets go. she stands, held there by them both.

Back at home, Maya convinces Morgan to lend her early, to spare the girl. just before he pushes the button, he says 'I love you'. Which is pretty hard for a guy who's last girlfriend died in the plauge. Then, when he pushes the button, something amazing happens. Absolutly nothing. The parentsstop fighting, the father backs a way to the wall looking horrified. Gabe drops his hand, and goes back to bed. May and Morgan just look at each other. On his cell phone the numbers flash 00:00:00...

Discuss.

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Hi, I am Felix from Singapore.

Does this mean that from now onwards , Maya knows exactly what Morgan does? She knows everything about the Devil, her body-switch, with all her memories intact?

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Looks like it, but who knows....the ep was a "To be continued" one, so they can somehow make her forget, but I doubt that will happen. I loved it when he told her that he loved her, :)
I love this show....I hope they don't cancel it.



@ I didnt lose my marbles, I sold them on ebay! @

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In the "The Junkie" episode the devil sings "I was no one who kept Maya from dying"

So I guess he lies? Or did I miss something?

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Written by Jon Cooksey and Ali Marie Matheson, and directed by J.B. Sugar, this episode is rich with dramatic tension. Lots of yelling, crying and gesturing by both the core and guest cast. The entire episode runs contrary to the show's usual format, with numerous shocking revelations and a client, played by the ruggedly handsome John Tench, casually disposed of barely half-way through the show.

First and foremost, let me say that was one of the best episodes of the entire series. Everything about it was top-notch, from the acting, writing and direction, right on down to editing, music and special effects.

I just didn't like it -- and two days after the episode aired, I still can't put my finger on why.

Maybe it was because the client, Duke, a gambling addict, was so casually disposed of too early on in the ep. Maybe it was because we learned that Maya had made a deal with the Devil while in her previous body (played by Carly Pope) to cure her of AIDS. I suspected that anyway, so I don't know why I'm reacting so negatively to this revelation. Perhaps it's because the sub-story about the little girl being molested by a family member hit a little too close to home for me. It could also be that I'm a little miffed at the 'To Be Continued' ending, as Morgan tries to decide whether or not to send Maya to Hell right then and there, as per her request. Maybe it was because the episode was just dripping with angst and high drama, not enough humour to break things up and give me a bit of breathing room...

And still I ponder why I just didn't like this episode.

KJC

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Kelly, he already pushed the button to send her to hell as she ordered him and as he has to do because of his own deal with the devil.

But the suprising ending was that she didn't go to hell when he pushed the button and that's where we saw the to be continued, in the moment after she didn't go to hell like she was supposed to.

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My guess (and this is just a guess) is that asking to go to
Hell early was the only thing Maya could have done to erase
the bad luck of her deal. In the deals we've seen in the
show so far, there has been a definitive, logical link
between the good luck of the deal and the bad luck of
someone else (my personal favourite is in "The Superhero"). But
there doesn't seem to be any link between Maya getting cured
of AIDS and the bad luck of the deal. It seemed that the
mere fact of Maya's continued existence was causing the bad
luck. The only hard, painful thing that Maya could do was
remove herself from existence (and thus removing the bad luck)
by voluntarily consigning herself as soon as possible to an
eternity of torment in Hell. The act of doing so constituted
her redemption, and thus by surrendering herself, she in
fact freed herself.

If this is true, though, the strange part about it would be
that the Devil seemed to be guiding Maya along towards her
own redemption---resetting the clock (and saying that the
girl would suffer for ten more years) and letting Maya see
an image of the girl.

What I really want to know (and I hope they discuss this in
the next episode!) is what restrictions there are on telling
Maya things, now that she's an ex-client. What can Morgan
tell her without her going to Hell? I'm pretty sure he can
tell her all about himself, and probably by extension, all
his past clients (he has discussed past clients with other
clients before, with no ill effects). What about his next
client, though? If he tells her about him, will she and
the new client go to Hell? If so, she wouldn't be a very
good sidekick. :-)

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One of my fave eps, Maya finds out who Morgan really is, doesn't go to hell, Morgan tells her he loves her, though he had previously told her this back in my other fave ep The Miniaturist (from season 1) except that time she basically ran away upon hearing those three little words and then of course he goes and stuffs up in the following ep (Another Collector) by sleeping with the other collector and getting busted by Maya.



"I'll set my course by you my northern star"

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