I liked it except excess Stars Wars ripoff

I'm saying that it wasn't funny because I didn't get the context.

Well, let me provide the context for you.
George Lucas created, wrote, and directed a movie called Star Wars which was released in 1977. George Lucas changed a scene so the hero no longer appeared to be a cold blooded killer but someone shooting in self defense. The "Mal shoots first" comment was a reference to that.
I'm not sure why you needed the context explained to you. Your posts indicate you know all this.
I'm also not sure why Nathan Fillion saying the same thing makes a difference. Surely you weren't under the impression that I was the first person to ever make that comment.

One of the things I enjoy about being a bit of a geek and a nerd is bickering about small things that doesn't really matter in the end.

bringbackberniew posted that many of the characters were based on Star Wars characters. I pointed out that the only characters that were remotely similar was Mal and Han since they were both smugglers and asked him to point out which characters in Serenity were based on Star Wars characters. Evidently he couldn't because he never responded.
And then you come along and hijack the thread because I included the often used comment that Mal shoots first. For some reason even after all these years you still can't get over the fact that George Lucas made Han the way he thought he should be instead of the way you think he should be.

First of all, how in the high heavens do I even find a place that rents out the theatrical version of A New Hope?

The version where Greedo shoots first was released to theaters. Didn't you know?
As a matter of fact, according to the link you provided, Greedo always shot first. It just wasn't as apparent in the firs release.

Second of all, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han_shot_first

From that link:
In a February 9, 2012 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, George Lucas indicated that Greedo fired first, even in the original film, and pointed out that the exchange of blaster fire between Han Solo and Greedo was shot in close-up which made the scene ambiguous. This ambiguity along with viewers' desire for Han Solo to be a cold-blooded killer caused the audience to draw the wrong conclusions, that is, they only thought Han shot first. Wide shots he added in later releases of the film served to make the actual results of the encounter more obvious.

Frell, the script even says Greedo didn't even fire.

No, it doesn't. Again, from the link you provided:
Suddenly the slimy alien disappears in a blinding flash of light. Han pulls his smoking gun from beneath the table as the other patrons look on in bemused amazement.
Nowhere does it say "Greedo didn't even fire." It doesn't mention whether Greedo fired or not. It's pretty safe to assume that, as both writer and director, George Lucas knew what he had in mind for the scene.
And even if the script had said Greedo didn't fire, directors deviate from scripts all the time. The director, not the writer, has the final say.
In this case the writer and director are the same person and both say Greedo shot first.

Third of all, I happen to have the laserdisc version of A New Hope, i.e. the theatrical release, and guess who shots first?

According to the director, Greedo did. It just wasn't apparent because it was shot in close up.
Funny how you go from not knowing where to find the original theatrical release to claiming to have it on laserdisc in just a few short lines.

See, bickering about small nerdy things is fun!

There is nothing to bicker about. George Lucas says Greedo shot first. Since George Lucas wrote, directed, and was executive producer he has the final say and that means you're wrong.

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Sorry, sometimes my wife forgets that she is not an alien from outer space.

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