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Somebody stop these people. Please.

posted 19 years ago by langelomysterioso
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Labeling human beings is dangerous, closed minded and anything BUT spiritual. This is human psychological devolution, not evolution.

What's next? They're going to say that these "new, spiritually enlightened children" are a master race? Superior to other children?

Don't kid yourselves, that's what these people want - to segregate a small percentage of "special" children by telling them that they're more spiritually aware than others. That has to be the most psychologically damaging approach to child raising created in a long, long time. And this concept that these special kids are only of this new generation, that there have never been any children this advanced before, is the most arrogant and laughable idea of all.

Please. I can think of some very spiritually advanced kids throughout history. How about Anne Frank? And Mozart was playing piano perfectly at three years old. So tell me, weren't they special? Were they "Indigo?" Does anyone else think that labeling kids with a COLOR is a little scary?

See this for what it is, which is more self-serving, righteous tripe from Neal Donald Walsch and his minions who believes he is the only guy on earth who is allowed to talk to God.

Give your money to a real children's charity instead. There are a lot of just plain old average kids who are starving to death and who need medical care.

If the upper-middle-class-new-age-mommys and daddys get their ego hit by believing they've given birth to the new messiahs, let 'em. But don't be suckered into it people.

It's a scam.

[–] stitch333 19 years ago

I couldn't agree with you more!
There are parents out there labeling their kids as indigo, crystal & rainbow children. They are labeling their kids as such in an effort to justify their behavior & make them seem special. What type of life skills are they teaching their children? How are they going to function in society?

[–] KtHyla 19 years ago

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The archaic labeling habit of past generations is the only way they know how to deal with this sort of phenomena... put it in a box, and it's less frightening. Thankfully, from what I've seen from these kids, they're much smarter than their parents, and likely won't pick up the old "put it in a box" mentality. I've even seen one outright reject some of his parent's behaviour, on a conscious level, and at 6 he's far more mature than his parents.

It's true, these kids have cropped up from time to time throughout history, but not nearly at the same rate as the last 15-20 years. It seems everytime I turn around there's another one... :D

[–] jrasku 19 years ago

I just got back from the world premier night, and feel that the movie and the whole thing was really just totally over hyped. I don't think you have any thing to worry about from these people. The spiritual awaking that they are talking about has gone on for decades, centuries, millennia. It *may* be more pronounced now, but I have a hard time accepting that. These movements have been going on. And why is it any worse to call a child Indigo, than it is to call a child ADHD? Just some thoughts.

Jessica

[–] KtHyla 19 years ago

I just got back a few hours ago, and it was better than I thought it was going to be. Of course, I just heard about it last night, but since it was being shown at a local therapist's college I was expecting something fairly amature.

It was pretty well polished with a good story, although there's no subtlty in their presentation of the children. If I had been writing it, I would have had the kids as part of the story rather than the focus, personal preference of course, but that would've defeated the purpose: this is sort of a public service announcement in the form of a story about a kid and her grandpa on the lam. There's a heavy dose of after school special here... but meant for adults.

Being one of the 'Indigos' myself (and personally, I don't care for the label), I can vouch for the existance of people like this. They're not running around curing alzheimer's or inducing visions mind you, it's of course far more subtle than that to the outside observer. The only real difference is that they're aware, of themselves, of others, and their environment. Far more than the 'average' person...

And once again, don't worry about some psycobable harming these kids: they don't pay it any heed, and the only way a psycologist can actually cause them any damage is to pump 'em full of drugs. Going back to what Jess said, Indigo is far more constructive than ADHD...

[–] BlueGreen 19 years ago

Oh yes, they exist. But even those "indigos" who CAN heal, don't care about the label. (Any labels, for that matter.)
I know I don't.
Nor do I care for the concept of a "generational" in-born shift in awareness.
Heck, even the terms "spiritual awareness" or "awakening" tend to irritate me because of their new-ageist misuse or overuse!
There's no need to talk. And most certainly no need for silly labels.

[–] slooper2112 19 years ago

I saw the movie last night at a local Unity Church. Finally I have some validation! I've struggled my whole life with these phenomenon. When I tried to discuss my experiences with professionals I was given drugs to try to make me "normal". There were a few other adults at the showing who had the same experiences. Three of us sat up until 1 am talking about our lives and our similar experiences.

We are all in our 40's so no, this is not a new phenomonon although it is perhaps more wide spread now.

Hopefully, the film will raise the level of awareness of parents and professionals and the children will get the attention and direction they need instead of drugs.

[–] KtHyla 19 years ago

BlueGreen: Algae? ;) And 'awareness' (period) is about the *only* way I could describe the difference. It seems a lot of folk are looking for heros to dump their problems on, not realizing that they're fully capable of fixing their own messes.

[–] slooper2112 19 years ago

If this film will raise the awareness of parents and professionals and get these children the proper guidance they need, who cares if they are labled Indigo.

I think that's better than "ADHD and here's your drugs".

[–] sweetemotions10 19 years ago

I agree. Please stop them, they are ruining something provocative and engaging. They seem to have completely bought into the whole new-age movement. So far, all movements have done is sell-out, and "Indigo's" simultaneous multiple-showing makes it clear that these filmmakers have sold out. My biggest regret is that this film didn't have subsequent showings, so I couldn't warn people to stay away. Too bad the filmmakers didn't put as much thought and care into their film as they did into their advertising.

[–] langelomysterioso 19 years ago

<<<<Too bad the filmmakers didn't put as much thought and care into their film as they did into their advertising>>>>

*** Perfect! I wish I'd said it!

As someone else pointed out in another thread, this film is one giant infomercial for the Spiritual Cinema Circle, a video-by-mail club that is making a few New Age gurus very rich. Or in Neale's case, richer.

Now, that's their prerogative and all, but let's just be honest about what it is and stop the pretense that what they're doing is about raising the vibration of anything but their bank accounts.

Their next film, by the way, is a "members only" version of "Conversations with Fraud." Maybe we should just be grateful that it's for their members exclusively and the rest of us won't be exposed to another dose of Neale Donald Walsch in writing or on screen.

Besides, his names have too many extraneous letters. Who can trust someone like that?

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[–] IMage60 19 years ago

<<See this for what it is, which is more self-serving, righteous tripe from Neal Donald Walsch and his minions who believes he is the only guy on earth who is allowed to talk to God>>

Um...have you read Neale's books? If you had, then you'd know that the point of every single, solitary one of them is that he's NOT the only one "allowed" to talk to God. In fact, his message is exactly the opposite.

[–] jerrycAZ 19 years ago

The Ashland-Trinity (Walsch, Twyman and Simon)said they set out to make Indigo a "non-Hollywood movie." However, the only thing not "Hollywood" about Indigo is the poor quality of the film itself. Let's see.... what would you never see in a "Hollywood film"? How about a drug deal that goes bad, or a crooked cop? Certainly, you'd never see a couple of guys running around pointing guns at everybody, or grandpa sleeping with a young waitress.... those are spiritual elements you'd never see come out of the Godless, money-motivated Hollywood movie industry, right? And, most of all, Hollywood is about making money, unlike..... never mind.

Pehaps the claim of "non-Hollywood" is a rationalization for just plain bad filmmaking. Certainly, I've seen independent/student films that showed much more provocative and sensitive storytelling skill and real inspiration... with even smaller budgets.

In my opinion, the makers of Indigo have done the spiritually-attuned community an injustice... first, by rewarding the support of the community with a trite, uninspired, pandering treatment of a subject that deserves so much better; secondly, by creating a backlash of snake-oil hype to further distance "disbelievers."

[–] gariadea 19 years ago

Indigo Was Made For These Children

I just wanted to let some of the negative posting people about the movie Indigo on here know that the movie was mostly made for the Indigo children, not necessarily for the rest of us. These children have sent many emails and letters to the three people responsible for this movie thanking them and expressing their utmost gratitude to them for bringing such a movie to the populous. Most of these children are misunderstood and they need proper attention and handling. Also, if you go to the indigothemovie website, you will find actual letters from these children that show this is a legitimate race of entities incarnating in mass numbers on this planet to help raise Earth's vibration and individuals as well.
It is pretty obvious that you haven't seen the film because if you had, you would have heard Grace say that we are all ONE, and no one is any better than anyone else. I have compassion for people like you who can't or won't see the whole picture of what has been happening on this planet the last few years. Your analogy about Mozart, Einstein, etc. is hilarious. You are comparing apples to oranges. Yes, they were gifted, but not in the way the Indigos are. Once again, it doesn't matter who or what you are, we are all ONE and the sooner people realize that, the sooner we will have more Love and Peace on this planet throughout.
Namaste, gariadea

[–] jerrycAZ 19 years ago

Praise and Thanks?.... I don't think so. Regarding the "many" letters of thanks the Ashland-three have received from "Indigo children".... It seems odd that what I've seen shared on the net from "Indigo children" all express disappointment and embarassment at the way Indigo portrays them. Check some of the user reviews at Yahoo movies... you'll see what I mean.

Taking a line from a truly good movie, All the President's Men, "follow the money." Doing so, one can't help but feel we and the spiritual community are being used by the creators of Indigo. Ask where the tax-free $500,000 REALLY came from (donations to the Beloved Community "church" headed by James Twyman) and where the profits (tax-free again?) will go. Ask, where the money went (an Oregon film production company: Emissary Productions, owned by (you guessed it) James Twyman.

As if that's not enough, what about the bald-face promotion of the $29-per-month DVD club and the "spiritual" cruise trip being promoted for May. Then there's the hype for books, workshops and lectures.... with so much interest in self-promotion and the all mighty dollar, is there any room left for true enlightenment and devotion to the higher good?

These three "masters" of the spiritual community might have been truly inspired and enlightened at one time. However, it appears to me their souls and spirits have been seduced by the "dark side" of the force. When a Master proclaims (sells) himself as a master, he ceases to be one. Granted, abundance and spirituality aren't mutually exclusive. However, there's a difference between abundance that serves a purpose, that allows one to serve the higher good, and abundance that IS one's purpose.... without thought or consideration of the higher good.

[–] lingo4 19 years ago

"Labeling human beings is dangerous, closed minded and anything BUT spiritual. This is human psychological devolution, not evolution.

What's next? They're going to say that these "new, spiritually enlightened children" are a master race? Superior to other children?

Don't kid yourselves, that's what these people want - to segregate a small percentage of "special" children by telling them that they're more spiritually aware than others. That has to be the most psychologically damaging approach to child raising created in a long, long time. And this concept that these special kids are only of this new generation, that there have never been any children this advanced before, is the most arrogant and laughable idea of all.

Please. I can think of some very spiritually advanced kids throughout history. How about Anne Frank? And Mozart was playing piano perfectly at three years old. So tell me, weren't they special? Were they "Indigo?" Does anyone else think that labeling kids with a COLOR is a little scary?

See this for what it is, which is more self-serving, righteous tripe from Neal Donald Walsch and his minions who believes he is the only guy on earth who is allowed to talk to God.

Give your money to a real children's charity instead. There are a lot of just plain old average kids who are starving to death and who need medical care.

If the upper-middle-class-new-age-mommys and daddys get their ego hit by believing they've given birth to the new messiahs, let 'em. But don't be suckered into it people.

It's a scam."

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[–] spykid7894561230 19 years ago

Don't say that. I am a non-Indigo believer myself, but these people don't have bad intentions. They just think that there is a thing called "Indigo Children," and they think kids have spiritual powers. People have their beleifs. This is their's.

[–] TheSqueee 19 years ago

THANK you! That's what was missing from the debate! The way I see it, is that as long as I'm free to believe what I believe and everyone else can too, that's fine by me.

If you think Indigo people is a scam or a sad excuse for bad behaviour or a way for NDW and friends to make money (I won't argue with you on that one!), that's fine, as long as you can respect the views of those who disagree. I'm not saying you have to agree, just "okay, if that's what you believe, then fine, as long as you don't try to convert me".

I've so far only seen the trailer and wasn't very impressed by it (actually, it looked pretty *beep* to me, but hey...), however it's been an eye-opener for a bunch of people who finally understand why they've never been like everyone else. I came across the term "Indigo" through a link in a forum, and it's explained a heck of a lot of things to me.

I've never been bad-behaved (not even during the teenage years), diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, or communicated telepathically to my friends or seen auras or anything spiritual like that. I've been your average child, pretty much (didn't even have a horrible childhood - mine was pretty rosy), and I If I say I "fit the Indigo profile", that's my thing to "worry" about, not yours. No one tried getting money from me for an Indigo diagnosis, not even NDW (whose books I, by the way, boycott - he can converse with "God" all he likes, it still won't make me believe in "the almighty"!), or his friends. No.

I think the biggest problem is all these people writing books (and doing a movie) and have lectures and stuff about Indigos aren't actually Indigo themselves. How can they write about something they don't understand because they've never experienced it first-hand? They can give their own New Agey and very fluffy version of what Indigos are like, but to be honest with you, I reckon very few are what they describe.

Indigos are not some sort of "übermensch", we're people just like you. Some are dark-haired, some are blonde, some are tall, some are short. We're not superior to anyone else, we just have a slightly different approach to things, but we're just like anyone else. We eat, we drink, we sleep, we go to the toilet, we get colds just like the rest of you. Channelling messages from some supreme enlightened entity in another star system? Never done it in my life, and I don't really feel like I'd want to either.

I wasn't some smartarse kid walking around spewing wise-isms when I was 10 (I was still playing with my friends), and neither were a lot of others. It's nice of people to make a movie about Indigos, but it would be nice to not have us depicted as some sort of supreme child of enlightenment, as I can assure you I'm not! Oh yeah, or depicted as some sort of stuck-up brat with a behavioural problem... as I can also assure you I'm not! The film has already got some Indigos out of the spiritual closet, which is good, because the thing is, if you read any list of "signs", some will fit you, as of course some points will fit everyone. It's when the vast majority of points fit you and you KNOW it's you - THAT'S when you are Indigo. Some points fit and you don't get any sort of feeling that what you're reading is for you, then it isn't. You either know (or have) it or you don't. Easy as that. Not all people are meant to be Indigo, and if you're not - a majority of people aren't - that's fine. JUST PLEASE DON'T TRY TO MAKE OUR LIVES MORE DIFFICULT THAN THEY ALREADY ARE! (Anyone who thinks life's a breeze just because you discover you're Indigo... sorry, but you have another thing coming!) You don't have to believe there is even such a thing as Indigos, as long as long as you let those of us who say we ARE believe what we want in peace, without insulting or ridiculing us. That's all I ask. After all, no one forces you to read books or go to websites or even see the movie, right? "If you don't like it, don't listen". I'm not interested in, oh, books by David Eddings, for instance. Do I read them? No. Do I look for info about them on the Internet? No. I don't like them, therefore I leave them alone.

If you feel like you are Indigo, you will most probably have always felt like not fitting in anywhere, and to everyone who this does NOT apply to will have no idea what it means to a person to suddenly understand what's going on in your life, why things are happening, and that you're NOT a freak - and the best part of all - that YOU'RE NOT ALONE. There are other people like you out there (which I thought was an impossibility up until six months ago), always willing to help you. I'm not talking about like "blame everything on being Indigo". Far from it. It just gives you a new understanding about things. I don't think it's going to solve any problems I might have, although it might give me a new way of looking at them. Just saying "I'm Indigo, woohey!" isn't going to solve anything. Neither is "I'm a born again Christian, woohey!" or "I'm an alcoholic, woohey!" - a label, whatever it might be, isn't going to solve anything, unless you do something with it, or it gives you a new understanding. If you have a medicin, you're not going to get well from just looking at the bottle, after all... you'll have to actually TAKE the medicine...

Anyhoo, I've ordered the DVD, so when I've seen the film, maybe I'll write a review about it.

All the best.

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[DON'T PANIC]
http://www.SNeill.net

[–] ownpersonaldemon 19 years ago

the gullability of people is astounding. Its all well and good to believe something but something has to be said when it becomes damaging as this movement obviously is. It is damaging to the psychiatric community as well as the psyche of children being put on a pedistal because of it. i myself am going into the psychological field and am a part of it because of mental problems of which I am currently on medication for, and when I first looked at some of the qualifications to being an "indigo" I too fit some of them. But I didnt go "hey, im an alien cuz I dont fit in!". this is just retarded that people are buying into this crap, but then again alotta people buy into scientology which is similiar in that both movements seem to be anti-psychiatric greedy quasi-religious cults. Personally the medicine im on works and keeps me stable so i obviously cant buy any of the BS slung by these scam artists. Ive never fit in anywhere in my life and im totally anti authority and anti social but I dont for one minute think im special or belong to another class of human being because of it.

its painfully clear that this is being used by overly proud parents stroking their ego that can say their child is "indigo" instead of ADD because the latter is just too embarassing. Im sorry but if you are embarassed of your child for any reason then you are a sh*tty parent. the last thing we need in this overly materialistic and self centered society is to tell our next generation that they are different from and more special than other children. This can lead to very disturbing things down the line trust me. Its one thing to be spiritual, its another to lead children down a path to social and spiritual prejudice, ala the racial prejudice hitler instilled in the german, especially the youth, during the third reich.

-No god, no master-

[–] vector_fc 18 years ago

" Its one thing to be spiritual, its another to lead children down a path to social and spiritual prejudice, ala the racial prejudice hitler instilled in the german, especially the youth, during the third reich. "

Agreed. Shades of creepy dystopia here.

"'...all wear green,' said a soft but very distinct voice, beginning in the middle of a sentence, 'and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides, they wear black, which is such a beastly colour. I'm so glad I'm a Beta. Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse...'"

[–] stanley_19802 15 years ago

Hello,

I have wondered for YEARS what was going on. Before I was allowed to be on a computer or hear anything about the topic of Indigo I was able to do things, have things happen. Dreams I would have would come true. Many times I would have a sort of deja vu, for 10 seconds or so, I would know everything people around me were going to say or do. Saved me a few times from being hurt. Since I was little I have been able to feel people's emotions. I actually thought everyone could do that. It wasn't till I was older that I realized it was just me. Or so I thought. I don't see ghosts or anything, but I can feel them. Kind of hard to explain to someone who hasn't felt it.

To learn all this stuff had a name, that I wasn't just crazy was a big relief. For much of my life I have been in a fog of depression because I couldn't understand what was "wrong" with me. As many Indigo's have been through, you go through much of your life feeling different, like you don't belong, and that no one understands. I have always kept most of this to myself. I knew my parents would not understand, and my brother teases me about it. He thinks it's some big joke. However, since finding out what I am and all, everything made sence. My depression is pretty much gone, and things have changed knowing I am not alone.

Bottom line, what is the message that indigo's bring? Peace, love, caring about others. Anyway you look at it, how can being nice to others, loving others or wanting to help others be bad? Name it whatever you want, this world needs people to care about eachother. The last time I have seen a group of people all come together was during the world trade center attack. It took a MAJOR loss of life for people to stop and look around. People started helping other people. Hugging total strangers. It shouldn't take something like that for people to care and help other people. It just shouldn't. And if Indigo's can do it without loss of life, get people to love eachother more, then I am all for it. I don't care what I am called. I have always loved helped others and will continue to do so till my time on this earth is over.

These people, are not a cult. I don't warship anyone, or take or give money to people. I give my time to help people. If someone needs a ride I give it. If someone is hungry I make them a sandwitch. What ever I can do to help. Most times, it's just listening to people. Most people just want to be heard and recognized. Indigo's are not above anyone else. They are just people with a lot of love to give. There is nothing wrong or crazy about caring about other people. Loving people isn't a mental condition that needs to be medicated away. As far as the energy of the kids, take them to a park. Give them things to do.

As a child, I was diagnoses ADHD, but I channeled the energy. I rode my bike, used the energy to clean my room or the house, went swimming. I understand the problems in school. There is very little time to rest in school. Schools have been cutting back more and more of the time children get to run off their energy on the playground between classes. Even in high school the only time I wasn't doing something was during lunch and the time I was going to my next class. Where are you supposed to burn off that stored energy at? It's not wrong to have energy. It's what you can do to burn it off. I have ritilin, but I will tell you, I have had the same bottle for the last 2 years. I take it ONLY when I absolutly need it. When I have no choice and HAVE to be calm for a long period of time. Otherwise it sits in the cabinet. Just let these people alone. They are doing nothing wrong.

-Stanley

[–] docfox 18 years ago

Wow, it sounds as though these new "indigo" children are far superior to other children. I for one, welcome our new "indigo" masters.