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TIRED OF REALLY BAD GAY MOVIES!

posted 18 years ago by junay01
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somewriters are trying so hard to create good gay drama or for that matter good gay comedies...they simply dont understand that there is a fine line between gay comedies and gay drama...most gay movies nowadays have NOTHING to do with real life...very few actually get a point across and deal more with real life...

CRAP like Testosterone should be banned...movies like this create an illusive yet really ridiculous scenarios that anyone and everyone can be gay for the sake of entertainment or whatever in the movie...well IT DOESN WORK...this movie goes down the line with "Eating Out" "Prom Queen" some movie named "Pink..." something i dont remember the name...but its about this indian guy coming out to his mom and about his lover...and "testosterone"---are all really BAD gay movies...i know theres tons of good and bad str8 movies...but if movies with gay themes have less opportunities...at least make an effort to make them better than the rest so they can stand out and MOR pplc an see them and not just gay ppl....oh and that other movie "Ski trip" about the black gay guys...which they showing on LOGO...is a horrible movie (they were just begging for laughs int his movie...the flamboyant guys didnt look gay at all and in one part some guy is eating his buggars...out of nowhere..so tasteless and STUPID!)

I just saw "Brother to Brother" and "The Mudge Boy" (although this one wasnt so much about being gay)...as well as "Brokeback mountain" which were all GREAT AWESOMELY gay movies...they were real and relatable! with all this talk about gay issues i think films with gay themes owe t to themselves ot make their filmss both plausible, entertaining and relatable to a wide spectrum of people...

Sex is a wonderful thing with the oppositie or same sex...but i am really tired of the gratuitous sex scenes in some of these gay movies...they are ABSURD and dumb...once again watching "eating out" made me wanna throw up!

Queer as folk was a good series overall...but it was just too much grautitous and senseless sex...it made it extrmely difficult for me to watch as a gay man..can u imagine a str8 person? there was no reason fo rthat whatsoever...and the fact that they had like5 seasons and there wasnt a single minority in the show with actual drama was just APALLING...considering that gay minorities in America deal with double the problems! that one show "Noah's arc" in LOGO was awfull too...just really really bad!

--sorry about the long rant...LOL...but it makes me so mad everytime a bad movie gets made...specially with an abundance of really BAD gay movies...lol.

[–] skiop 18 years ago

I enjoyed this movie, but you've got a point. Movies should be relatable and not just a surrealistic gay-only time.

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[–] badgyrl_310 18 years ago

I have to say I didn't like the main character at all. He was my least favorite character in the movie. He came off as a psycho obsessed stalker type. Obviously, Pablo wasn't interested in him, but he wouldn't take no for an answer. It was pathetic. I get that it's supposed to be about taking revenge out on the person who dumped you or whatever, but I didn't sympathize with Dean at all. I felt more for Pablo and Marcos and even Sofia. Not to mention how he manhandled Pablo's mother in the art gallery and disrespected her, it's no wonder she didn't want that loser with her son.

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[–] preppy-3 17 years ago

OK--I didn't like "Testosterone" either--but LIGHTEN UP!!! U seem to think that sex scenes are not needed in gay movies at all. What's wrong with sex scenes in gay movies? I didn't like Queer As Folk at all but I DID like it cause it showed gay men having sex and not apologizing for it or being punished for it. U seem to think we should never show gay sex at ALL. However it was necessary in "Testosterone" to explain the characters. I think gay sex is fine to be shown IF needed/ I suppose you think "Love! Valour! Compassion" should be banned cause it showed sex between men. Actually u probably didn't see it cause it's SO disgusting to see gay men making love. And I HATED "Brokeback Mountain". U never once believed these characters liked each other let alone love each other. But u probably applaud it because it doesn't show anything "disgusting" like two men making love. For the record, I'm gay. Grow up!!!!

[–] Chaplin_fan 17 years ago

Hmmm.....as far as "Brokeback Mountain," "U" (I assume you mean "you," as in "one," and I take your use of the letter 'u' as demonstrative that you are very young and of the text-messaging, no-attention-span generation), most of us totally believed that the characters deeply loved each other. I am now of the same age as the characters at the end of the film, and I grew up in a very rural area. I totally understand and can relate to the self-loathing, the fear, and so many other things that were evident in BBM to those of us with a normal attention span and ability to comprehend subtlety and nuance. And as far as showing them making love,I am wondering if you even saw the movie, because there was a rough-and-raw sex scene, followed a few minutes later by a much more tender, intimate one. And the power of Ennis and Jack's first reunion after four years apart nearly exploded out of the screen. That you couldn't see that probably speaks to your youth and ignorance of what life is like for gay people in rural America (yes, still).
That notwithstanding, I must say I wasn't crazy about "Testosterone," either. I spent most of the movie trying to figure out whether I liked it or not, and then, since it had been recorded by DVR on Logo, it cut off at the end and we missed the last few minutes. WHY DOES LOGO NOT ADHERE TO THEIR SCHEDULE?!?!? This is extremely irritating and we often miss the end of things......but I digress.

[–] preppy-3 17 years ago

Actually--I'm in my 40s so I'm close to your age (I guess). OK--I use "u" instaed of "you" just because it's quicker. Sorry if it bothers YOU. As for the ending of "Testosterone"--well you know what happened to Sabato's character--right? Because after that there was pointless epilogue back in Spain which added nothing.

As for "Brokeback..." I know I'm in the minority. It's just that after seeing movies like "Jeffrey" or "Love!.." "Brokeback..." seemed like a step backwards. I was also bored silly by it. The first sex scene seemed nore like a fight than sex to me and the kissing when they meet after years apart came out of NOwhere. Also there's far too much nature imagery and these scenes involving these characters domestic lives lead to nothing. But again, I'm in the minority.

Thanks for writing "Chaplin_fan". Very well thought out comment.

[–] Chaplin_fan 17 years ago

preppy-3: My apologies for assuming that you were younger and of a short attention span. I just turned 40 this year, myself. I didn't mean to attack like that.

I do know of others who felt the same as you as far as BBM being boring and moving slowly. I am always surprised that different people can watch the same film and not "see" the same thing. Where some found dreadfully boring passages of time with no action, I saw a gradual building of love that was stronger than both of them (they even fought it, due to their deep-seated, internalized homophobia which was [and still is] common in rural America). Also, that first scene of intimacy between them couldn't have been, in my opinion, any different. They were overcome with passion, but they were terrified of themselves and each other. Two macho, self-denying men suddenly felt something they couldn't control, but their letting that passion manifest itself with tenderness was not an option. Once they had both "been down that road," it opened up the chance for real, tender intimacy, which is what happened that second night. I thought it was beautifully done (I'm not trying to argue; just showing you what I and others saw that you didn't).

And I loved the cinematography and many shots of the mountain settings, in tandem with the beautiful score. For me, that underscored Ennis and Jack's "exclusive ownership" of Brokeback Mountain and the other places that they escaped to over their 20 year affair: those were the only places they could be their true selves, unhindered by society and their own self-hatred. In those mountains, they were truly free.

As far as the kissing "coming out of nowhere," upon their reunion, that was precisely the point: neither of them had any idea it would be so strong. But as soon as they saw each other, four years of pent-up longing and passion exploded out of them faster than they could figure out what to do with it; it was beyond their control. That's one of my favorite scenes, and it always makes me a little emotional (incidentally, this film inexplicably hit me like a freight train and I was messed-up for MONTHS--but that's another whole story altogether).

Sorry for rambling; this isn't a forum for Brokeback Mountain but whenever it comes up, I have to add my two cents because it touched me so deeply and it will always mean a great deal to me. I feel like I know Jack and Ennis, because, in a way, I have BEEN them.

As for the ending of Testosterone, it cut off just as Sofia was coming out of the house and sat on the steps next to a man I presumed to be Marcos. My partner and I deduced that they had manipulated Dean into killing Pablo, but there are so many holes and unrealistic behaviors/events, it just didn't cut it with us (why was Marcos going to kill Dean if they had wanted the latter to kill Pablo?). In any case, it left us disappointed and scratching our heads.

[–] preppy-3 17 years ago

Need for apologies--I'm not at all angry. I can see why you thought the way you did. BTW--I just turned 45 this year:) And I don't think you attacked me at all. You were very nice and kind in your choice of words.

I understand your defense of BBM...but I still don't like it. All that nature imagery got on my nerves. I thought I was going to see a gay love story not a documentary on nature. And the acting just wasn't good enough to convince me that those guys even remotely LIKED each other let alone love. They picked the wrong director for the project (even he admitted he didn't want to show any kissing) and Heath Ledger was obviously uncomfortable (when he said "I'm not no queer" I just wanted to hit him). I'm glad you enjoyed it though.

As for TESTOSTERONE--I saw it in a movie theatre in PTown--and that's how it ended. You didn't miss anything. No--it makes no sense but the movie REALLY sucked.