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Expremely Disappointing just a bad movie


Let me first say that i enjoy all the Wim Wenders films i have seen which aren't many maybe three, one of my favorite films of all time is Wings of Desire, i though many scenes in this film were beautiful and i really enjoyed the soundtrack and his directing style. I felt that the actors were horrendous, especially the cowboy's son. since this film was all about the characters and there relationships the bad acting made the film unbelievable. I found myself cringing during the film. overall terrible acting lead to not very believable actions by the characters i did think the cowboy and his daughter were decent actors but even the dialog was weak, all in all i felt this was one of the worst films i have ever seen.

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I thought this was a thoughtful and uplifting film

"Someone shoulda told ya - never give an Irishman good cause for revenge,"

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same here

I liked it




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Wow, the haters are out again! This is one of my favorite Wenders movies, and there aren't many of his I haven't seen. The only thing I agree with is that Gabriel Mann was terrible. Other than that, every actor was excellent (is Sarah Polley ever bad?), the writing was strong, and the direction was outstanding (as is usual for Wenders). Wenders' love for "place" was evident, and the dialog was effortlessly natural.

I just wish Wenders and Shepard would team up more often! We desperately need more movies with this high level of intelligent writing and direction to counteract the crap that typically comes out of the major Hollywood studios!

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I will purposefully avoid Gabriel Mann after this movie. IMO, this was far from Wenders' best effort, but I didn't totally hate it. Dialogue had serious issues in general I think, but Mann was brutal.

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This was a major waste of time and talent. I was surprised when I read the credits and found that it was written by Sam Shepard. If I were going to write a movie for myself, I would make it something a bit more worthwhile.

Some have said in other threads that a movie doesn't really have to go anywhere or be about something. I disagree. If all we want is just to see the world go by for a couple of hours, we would just sit on our front porches for that amount of time instead of going to a theater.

As many have said, Gabriel Mann was incompetent, and his scenes were stupid and poorly constructed as well. I really don't believe that this skinny guy could toss a sofa out of a window, even if the window were big enough in the first place.

Fairuza Balk's character seemed to be totally out of context in a small Western town, at least in 2005. There were quite a few young women who looked and acted like that 10 or 15 years ago; perhaps the idea was to say Montana's that far behind the times.

Sarah Polley was excellent, but she wasn't given enough dialog for us to know much of anything about her character except that she was another previously unknown child of the cowboy actor. It seemed to be far too much of a coincidence for her to be hanging out in Doreen's cafe at the moment Howard walks in.

Jessica Lange was wonderful as always, but even at that, some of the things her character did didn't make sense--angry one moment and then smiling or chuckling the next. I suppose that is just poor direction.

I've never been overly impressed with Sam as an actor. In this movie, he had a few moments, but I thought that he was going to wipe his face off. Couldn't he have found some other way to express emotion?

The story line was just stupid. How could Sutter have grown to adulthood or early middle age without having learned about the various ways that potatoes may be cooked in restaurants? Why have Doreen plant a big kiss on Howard and then just disappear from the movie? The only consolation that I could draw from it was the idea that Howard's kids are headed to the movie set to find him at the end.

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I think Jessica Lange's character was the most realistic -
"angry one moment and then smiling or chuckling the next" - sounds alot like a woman scorned to me! She was torn because her feelings towards him were mixed especially when she was also thinking about the affect on her son.

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I'm afraid that I have to agree with the haters.
This movie was just freally bad.
My partner and I fell asleep about an hour into this film and then struggled to get through the remaining 40 mins or so.
This was one of those movies that was a just a real chore to get through.
You know it's bad when you keep checking the 'time remaining' counter on your DVD player.

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As always, it really does come down to opinon in movies. I enjoyed it myself, but it seems that something like this really isn't intended to get a middle ground response from people. It seems more of a love or hate type deal.
I thought the movie was honest and unpretentious, and had some dialouge that was good without trying too hard to be clever. That's a symptom of a lot of "indie" flicks nowadays, and I gotta say, seeing something where the characters aren't all masters of poetic witicism was a nice touch. Not that I have anything wrong with poetic language, it's just that the tone of this movie was very real, and the plain speak of it's characters (bar maybe a few scenes) was satisfying.
I also really enjoyed the scenery and the way that the characters existed outside of Howard. I really got the sense they were all their own people and that Howard wasn't the center of the universe, which is good when you want to establish reality.
The son's performance was the most cliche, but I wouldn't call it unbelievable or the poorest acting I've ever seen...it's just that I've seen that type of character reaction and dialouge in a lot of things, but that doesn't necessarily mean the actor himself was terrible (although he was the weakest of the cast). I had never seen anything with Sam Shepard or Sarah Polley before this, and I'm now interested in seeing more from both. Tim Roth was good as always, and as for the poster in this thread confused about Jessica Lange's last scene, well, I liked that, because this wasn't a melodrama and the emotions the characters felt weren't 100% one way or another. Her situation contained a mixture of happiness and frustration, and when people are faced with something like that, it can be very hard to express yourself. I think Jessica Lange actually pulled that off well.
All in all, the original posters needs to lay off the exaggeration with statements like "this must be one of the worst movies I've ever seen". If this is the worst you've ever seen, then you must watch nothing but classics and top of the line stuff, because I can guarantee this movie has a lot more to offer than any of the truly horrible movies out there. Seriously, where do people get these ideas? Look at the IMDB Bottom 100 if you want to see what terrible is; this is far from it.

"Bulls**t MR.Han Man!!"--Jim Kelly in Enter the Dragon

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A really dreadful, flabby film. I've directed films with professional actors and I know the director must use the storyboards with script and come up with the timing of the actual scenes before shooting begins. Wenders could have had a tight production but his very loose control encouraged the actors to chew on the scenery, especially Jessica Lange. She's damn good in films where the directors knew what they wanted and controlled the scene timing, but here she went all over the place, mostly, I think, because Wenders thought her searching delivery seemed really creative.

A good 30 to 45 minute story idea here, but not the loosey-goosey, amateurish, over long film I witnessed.

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Some scenes were overly corny, I felt no emotion at all for anyone.

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Yes, it was the writing that was the weak point of this movie.

Wem and Sam apparently couldn't decide whether they wanted to make a dramatic, theatre-style drama, or a gritty realistic indie naturalist drama.

So we get some great cinematography in Butte and elsewhere, an attempt at "keeping things real", but that was badly undermined by some of the melodramatic and overwrought "speeches" - from Doreen and Earl and particular.

Also, without more backstory of Howard, the viewer doesn't really "get" (at least not for a while) Howard's lifestyle and angst, so a lot of the plot seems haphazard and arbitrary.

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Nwmoor, You mention the money involved as if this movie had a big budget. It didn't

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Jessica Lange was unbelievable good and I liked Tim Roth very much!

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I agree this movie is junk. The characters showed no growth, no insight...except for the briefest flash by Jessica Lange: "Howard the Coward"---and the 8 year old screen writing having the disrespect for the film gower to say "Oh, that rhymes." Thats how low it flowed.

way too many loose end and coincidences drive this flim...to no where aka Butte Montanan. When the daughter sees her father in the Bar for the first time with her mothers ashes in her arms....she would have said something then given she had been looking for him so fervently as a child. But she says nothings, he drives away, and she just walks into the Hotel he decides to stay in?=====PULEASE!!!!

I "almost" turned the movie off when Howard accepted his Fathers Car. "I only use it for grocery shopping...............AND I CAN WALK!!" and what does Howard do with the car?---gives it away. Self centered *beep* head from start to finish...doesn't learn a thing.

So....always way too easy to fault a film===how to make it "better?" Hollywood would have the extended family living together at the end. Why not? Big movie star could put them all up in Hollywood. Anything more realistic?

Maybe tie a few loose ends together? Give the car to his son WITH the name and address of his Grand Mother and ask him to return it with the message he would be home soon? THAT would have taken 30 seconds of film and given it some sense!

"I could'a been a contender!"----so easy to be a critic.

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Maybe tie a few loose ends together? Give the car to his son WITH the name and address of his Grand Mother and ask him to return it with the message he would be home soon? THAT would have taken 30 seconds of film and given it some sense!


Howard would no doubt contact his mother ASAP and inform her that he was forced to give the car to his son since he was in the tracer's custody. The grandmother would've likely approved since she wasn't doing anything with the car. Also: Howard didn't possess the title to the car; his mother did. So Earl would definitely HAVE to contact his grandmother on the matter.

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