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good movie, but......ridiculous things


Good movie but...Why in some places he was so recognized as an actor and in others nobody knew him?? like when Earl knows he is his father instead of saying "Uhh Howard Spence..the actor" or "That's the guy you have the movie poster inside the cafe" he says "Who...It sounds like a dentist".
Why Sky looks and talks to him "My mother..I think you knew her" bla, bla and why she never says directly to him that he is her father?? Who was her Mother?? in the album his mother has we can read from an old newspaper "Playboy bunnie pregnant by Howard Spence"..that's her mother???

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This movie pissed me off! I really, really wanted to like it but it's like swiss cheese. It's full of so many holes that you want to ring somebody's neck. Could it be the editing? Maybe the studio cut half of it out. It sure looks it. I expected about 60 percent more considering who wrote and directed it. Somebody got screwed ..we did.

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I agree that it's very very atmospheric... and I watch it when the mood hits me. I just disregard the holes..

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Well, movies are kinda like life, wet and messy and sometimes mysterious. If you want all the answers, everything explained, a nice pat feel-good ending, then you probably shouldn’t be watching any movies with Sara Polley, Sam Shepard, acting, or Win Wenders directing. Each of these poeple have the ability to go beyond mere plot. This movie is not about “plot,” it is about “character.” I am absolutely sure that Win Wenders editied this movie just the way he wanted it and that the studio didn’t cut it. You wanting to “ring someboy’s neck” kinda reminds me of the son in the movie who was so pissed off at his father...

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This movie is not about “plot,” it is about “character.”


I hope you're wrong about this, because if you're right, then it's even more of a failure than if it was "about plot".

The characters were in no way believable and they all acted as if they were on thorazine.

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A few explanations:

Howard Spence, though once a big western star, is way past his prime. He talks about how he's "washed up". That's why nobody recognizes him, especially not the younger people. Go up to some random kid on the street and show him a picture of Lee Marvin; he'd have no idea who that is, even though Lee Marvin was one of the biggest western stars of his day. So it's not a plot hole; it's very deliberate & shows how he's lost the limelight.

Also we learn that Doreen never told her son the name of the father. So when Earl hears "Howard Spence" for the first time, it's gibberish. Again, imagine telling some 20-year-old kid that his father's name is Lee Marvin. The kid would probably say "That sounds like a pair of jeans."

About Sky's mother, you have to see it from Howard's point of view to understand his lack of interest. Every 2-bit hussy wants to slap him with a paternity suit. If you listen to his earlier conversation with his mother, you'll see that he doesn't care anymore, and he has blocked all women out of his memory (the way he runs away from all responsibilities). Sky realizes this because she has studied him carefully. So it's out of respect & consideration that she doesn't dump her life story on him at their first meeting. Besides, he wasn't exactly in a mood to chit chat.

No, the Playboy Playmate wan't Sky's mother. Sky's mother represents 1 of the many obscure, small-town women who hooked up with Howard over the years. The mother's identity is not relevant to the story. At one point Sam Sheppard wanted to make the mother a Native American, but since Wim doesn't like unnecessary details crowding the story, he prefered to leave it a mystery.

Wim Wenders is one of the most meticulous directors out there. His films don't have plot holes. But people often think they do because not everything is explained. You just have to work a little harder to figure it out.

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