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If Wynn is not Kazan?

posted 12 years ago by homedaddy
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Since I read:

"The director in the commentary says that they're not the same character. Showing Wynn in the end as a savant is an indication that Kazan was also at some point an "employee" of the cube."

So why use a nearly identical script to show Wynn in the cube being discovered by three people who were very similar but very different from the people in the first.

Examples are: Black lady does and says nearly word for word what the doc lady in the first did and said. Even when he began to hit his head on the wall she walked over and put her hand in between and said the same EXACT thing as the doc in the first. Young blonde girl freaks out and gets angery just like the black man in the first about the prospect of now having to babysit the slow guy, while also physically representing the young math girl from the first.

Basically if the director was trying to represent a completly different charactor then why use the same script from the same scene in the first movie? Sure, show the savant with similer manerisms, but drastically change that of the reactions of other charactors to him. Or better yet make him one in the same person and show him picking a shirt off a dead guy in the cube from the original that has Kazan written on it, or something to explain the name change..

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[–] ry-the_stunner 12 years ago

They were trying to make the obvious connection to the first movie, showing that Wynn and Kazan ended up in the Cube by the same means.

Obviously for most people, the tapping of his fingers and the banging his head on the wall and the "I want to go back to the blue room" would've been enough, but they were trying to make it as clear as possible.

[–] sdst3 12 years ago

Here's my question. Wynn is not Kazan, I understand that. But Kazan was the only escapee from the first one. So he was originally an employee but escapes? And from the 2nd movie, what the hell was the "device" and "phase 2". Those were never explained which was upsetting.

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[–] Psychedelics8 12 years ago

I think it was done to show how people who act as a good savant, are still not good actors. haha

[–] darshan2 12 years ago

WTF seriously what is up with ppl who dont understand things. yes he acted like Kazaan, clearly he wasnt. Firstly although different actors they made no attempt to make them look similar. Secondly the director has already said they are different.

Only reason they made them say similar lines was just for the even bigger idiots out there who otherwise wouldnt have been able to make connection that he was like Kazaan.

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[–] darshan2 11 years ago

Lol clearly smarter than the creator of this thread and anyone else who thought wynn was Kazan.

[–] gitanjili 11 years ago

I think the heroes acted the same way to show the similarities between the objects and how the creators of the cube gather data by collecting objects' reactions to similar conditions. The brain damage makes people like Kazan and Wynn act the same way because it's the same damage. It's highly unlikely for them to both want to "go back to the blue room", but I too think this was indication for us to link him to Kazan.
I too am disappointed by how little was explained in this movie, I think this is the worst of all three. I have so many questions now.