WHy is there a movie about her? She did nothing

Who, the interrogator who got rattled after seeing some gomer sliced in half? That's just the understandable response of somebody who had way too nice a childhood complete with a lack of viewing violent entertainment.

If you don't watch the violence, you'll never get desensitized to it!
--Bart Simpson

Actually, I disagree, someone who 'surrenders' can be a hero. Now, just because a soldier chooses not to die and thus surrenders, I put no fault on them for that, especially in a war that they shouldn't even be in.

But, there are instances in war where a person surrenders for other people to get to safety, there are instances where they surrender to help out those who are where they are going, so, surrendering is not dishonorable or even not heroic, just how you surrender and how it effect or affects what was done is done and what is going to be done.

In Jessica Lynch's case, nothing was done. So, she's not a hero on that basis, or really any other basis, but, if she did it to save lives, then in my book she would be a hero, but, that wasn't why she surrendered, she surrendered more-in-likely because she didn't want to die.

Of course she can be compared to the solidiers of the other wars and especially 9-11 since that was not even a military event but a reaction to an attack by both military and civilians. She was a soldier like many of the others there with her at the time. She was lucky she lived and was not one of the killed. If you check I am sure you will find the soldiers that rescued her will receive medals determined by the part they played in the rescue. They may or may not have presented yet but you can count on that. She could have been one of the people who gave the ultimate sacrifice as can any soldier or military person. She equally shares that possibility with all her fellow soldiers when she signed the contract and volunteered for the service. All of those volunteers who joined the service and went to Iraq are heroes for having made that choice and joined.

<<The bush admistration did a grat job with this war that HAD to be done. saddam is like hitler. her murdered innocent men women and childen and gave the womens no rights sp this had to be done. All you liberal asses want to think this war should of never happend what u want to wait until he gets a nucular weapon and target us of an allie of us? Democrats think saddam is all good and thier is no proof of weapons of mass destrution thier is and he just hid it. the people want us thier. >>

Aaaand you lost me. I'm surprised I made it that far; well at least you admitted you're 14. That's certainly about the mental age of most people who say "blah blah liberal asses blah blah he hid them blah blah liberals love saddam blah blah support our troops but *beep* jessica lynch blah blah".
Sucks that yer big brother's over there (18? Still a baby yet). Hope he lives; it'd suck to die for nothing like that.

Do you know your entire comment is inane? I mean, can you see the mundane inane-ness seeping through your words?

'The bush admistration did a grat job with this war that HAD to be done.'

Yes, it was a war that 'needed' to be done. But, he did it on false pre-tenses. He lied, he even admitted that he lied (slightly) then made an excuse as to why he lied. That is public record.

If he was upfront on every thing, that I, being a liberal and all, would have no problem with any of it.

'saddam is like hitler.'

It is funny, Stalin and Lenin were worse than Hitler, but, we never got rid of them - I wonder why? Oh yeah, they were a powerful nation then (as they are now).

I mean, if we went by that premise then all notoriety people, we should go after. I mean, there are rulers of countries right now that are worse than Saddam Huissen, but, we don't go after them, why? Oh yeah, because some of those countries already have Nuclear Weapons and also they too are powerful. I hate the ego of Americans (being an American myself) that the United States is the 'most powerful nation' in the world.

That is incorrect, we are the 'most powerful nation' in the 'free world' not in the world. I believe China is the most powerful 'nation' in the world, free or otherwise, why we don't get on their 'bad' side, ever.

'All you liberal asses want to think this war should of never happend what u want to wait until he gets a nucular weapon and target us of an allie of us?'

I hate to break it to you but there are quite a considerable amount of Republicans who were and still are not for this war, and some do not like how the President has handled it.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, has disagreed many times with the actions that Bush has taken, Rummsfeld as well as disagreed with actions that the President has taken, so, do not think that is is just Liberals. Oh, and there are plenty of 'Liberals' who are for this war.

It went before Congress, and tho you may not know this, but, Congress just doesn't have Republicans in it, some of those who agreed with the war were indeed 'Liberals'.

On the Nuclear angle you are trying to throw in there, on a basis, the United States is the ONLY country that has used Nuclear Weapons on an opposing Country.

Now, Russia did use them on their own people in 1940s and/or 50s (thus me mentioning Stalin and Lenin above) killing millions of their own people.

But, other than Russia, we are the only ones. There are a handful of Countries out there right now that have and have had Nuclear Weapons, but, they haven't used them.

Pakistan has Nuclear Weapons
Russia has Nuclear Weapons
China has Nuclear Weapons
North Korea has Nuclear Weapons

etc etc etc yet, we are not attacking any of them, why? Now, Pakistan, if we attacked them I am pretty sure we would win, Russia and China I doubt and North Korea I believe would get help from China, so there is another country we'd have trouble with.

I am not saying we wouldn't win, but, besides the hundreds that have died so far in Iraq, it would go to thousands and beyond.

'Democrats think saddam is all good and thier is no proof of weapons of mass destrution thier is and he just hid it.'

Please, show me 1 Democrat that stated that 'Saddam Huissen' is good? Do you even know that there are 'Liberals' fighting over there right now, so, are they the exception to this 'rule' of yours, or are they too grouped with all us 'Liberals' as well?

There is no proof of Weapons of Mass Distraction, because, as one of Saddam's top people stated, they destroyed them all before the war started. But, even if they didn't destroy them, where are they?

They have looked before the war, they have looked during the war, and they are still looking for these weapons and none are to be found.

So, where are these weapons? Not just Liberal's want to know this answer, I mean, Republicans want to know, Britian wants to know, the countries against this war want to know, hell, even Iraq wants to know.

'the people want us thier.'

Not all Iraqi's want us there, but, I am sure the bulk did and do, there is no questioning that, so the reason you bring that up is irrelevent and also mundane.

'so dont go all blamming her nbc wanted to do the movie she could of dont nothing becuase all of the information of what happend that day was out into the public.'

She herself said that she did nothing heroic on a tv show, but, still she takes the money for the tv film, and she takes the money for the book deal.

So, she is a hypocrite.


I just love that you think that Liberals are the fault here, that the President did everything right and Liberals is to blame.

But, as you say you are only 14, so really what the hell do you really know?

:)

Actually, did you know that under Saddam Hussein, women in Iraq were more equal and had more rights than in any other Arab nation?

Quote from Jessica Lynch- "They used me to symbolize all this stuff. I did not shoot, not a round, nothing…I went down praying to my knees. And that's the last I remember."

She's also said she joined the military in the first place so that she would be able to take advantage of benefits that would help her be able to go to college and become a teacher. This is more interesting to me than anything else that's come out of the whole Jessica Lynch phenomenon. The military is the biggest employer of young people in this country under the age of 24. All this talk of whether or not she's a "hero" aside I am personally much more concerned about the fact that working class young people are risking their lives in the hopes of securing a sustainable future.

I don't know maybe it's my (admitted) middle-class guilt but I never had to risk my life to get an education and I don't think anyone else should have to either. Higher education should always be affordable for everyone. These kids are so young. Jessica Lynch is so young to risk so much just to live her life. And I'm not even going to get into the politics of this war which are shameful to me. I'll leave it at that.

Sure Lynch is going to cash in with her book deal and she'll be fine financially but what about everyone else that didn't get their 15 mins of fame (and isn't "cute," white and blond/which is of course at least part of the reason why such a big deal is being made about her/and as more women join the military we will continue to see this confused representation in the media of them as brave yet helpless/women soldiers are a complicated thing for us to process as a society and I say that as a woman). Bottom line billions of dollars are being spent on this war and as far as I can see things aren't getting too much better for poor people in this country/as well as around the world (hasn't Bush been cutting benefits to soldiers as well??).

This is what I think about when I think of Jessica Lynch. Anyway although she claims she has no memory of it haven't doctors confirmed that she was raped while a prisoner of war? Have a little emphathy for her. She's been through hell anyway you slice it. The whole "hero" debate is so silly.

There's no absolute definition of a hero. Hero's become hero's for a million different reasons. A hero is saving a cat from a tree, donating to charity, smiling at a lonely person. Parents can be heros just for getting gum out of your hair. * You * can be a hero just for having a cell phone and calling 911 when witnessing accident. Not all hero's * choose * be heros.
They just become them.
What about Sports Athletes. Are they heros? Yes. In their own way.
There's no checklist that must be filled out to become a hero. That's the problem. People think you can only be a hero if you meet certain criteria.
As for Jessica Lynch...well. Yes. She's a hero. In her own unique way.
If you still don't believe me, remember the old Indian proverb.

" Do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins. -- American Indian proverb"

JT