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I have a question about andrew

posted 17 years ago by Jaysdatruth
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Why is everyone making him out to be the bad guy? and comparing him to adrian? He helped her out in every way he could and only went off on her when she did stupid things like have two thousand toy pigs around the house without discussing it with andrew. Any guy paying the bills in a house would get mad about that. then here he is trying to set up a dinner meeting to display her cooking skills and she goes bananas for no reason in front of everyone. I wouldve kicked her out right then and let her go back to the dungeon. Lets not forget he married her just to make her happy and what does she do? goes and screams about SHE WANTS BABY NOW!!! thats the problem with some women its just impossible to make them happy. He helped her way too much and honestly I wouldve found her after she left and went off her once she called me a loser after all he did for her? he saved her from years of torment from adrain. Of course I know this movie is fictional but had it been real I wouldve done all the things andrew did except the ending. I wouldve told her off and let the father sleep with her .

[–] ravenpoe121 16 years ago

Wow... that's a bit dark. You've been hurt by a woman, haven't you?

Everyone in this film was made out to be a bad guy, because they were all just screwed up *beep* Andrew wasn't doing what he was doing out of the kindness of his heart, he was sleeping with her. The reason Lichi blew up at the dinner party is because Andrew had been sleeping with her and leading her to believe that they were an item, but now he was ignoring her and acting all kissy with his 'real' girlfriend.

There was no 'good guy' in this film, it was one bad decision made after another, where everyone involved came out looking petty and cruel. Adrian came out looking like a sleazeball, Andrew came out looking like a whiney clingy *beep* and Lichi came out looking like a manipulator because "Work hard, marriage easy."

[–] jlprizm21 15 years ago

I'm glad someone got the point of the film. It was like a train wreck. Everyone wanted something out of the arrangement that they had. Adrian wanted sex..a maid..and to make his videos, Andrew thought he was getting a relationship and got obviously more than he bargained for but was in no way innocent through the whole movie and Lichi had her own plans and was gonna do what she had to do to get what she wanted. Everyone got screwed over and had to deal with the consequences. There was no good guy or bad guy and for me it made this movie even better and more interesting. You're not rooting for anyone..just watching these people get themselves into ridiculous and awful situations.

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[–] brux (14666) 7 years ago

>> Andrew wasn't doing what he was doing out of the kindness of his heart, he was sleeping with her.

I know this is just a movie, but I don't think you can say that.

A lot of women know the score, they know whether someone is attracted to them. They would know if they were better looking than the guy's girlfriend, and if there were better prospects being with ... I guess it was Andrew, the supposed filmmaker. Women can be very seductive and she did not have to have sex with anyone.

I agree it shows totally weak character, even bad character on Andrew's part to do that to his girlfriend, but again, we do not know what the relationship was between them. Maybe it was ending or just not going anyway, or maybe Andrew was not happen sexually. Still, to created that situation in his home and then pretend like he could not understand it was slimy.

[–] big_kmc 14 years ago

Jaysdatruth, You are looking at this from the point of view that Lichi isn't a human being to be respected but a piece of property. No one put a gun to Andrew's head to do those things for Lichi, after all he was making a documentary that would profit him and he didn't want anything threatening his little project. Not only that but she was vulnerable and confused and had been through a lot to try to get a better life including feeding a scary snake and making demeaning videos and then Andrew has sex with her while he still has a girlfriend! Vulnerability by definition is being susceptible to getting hurt where normally you would be able to evade that hurtful situation if you had clarity.

So what's wrong with wanting a baby and wanting marriage over working? That's her choice to go for what she wants in life like Andrew is going for the things he wants in life. Why the double standard? But it's that double standard that is the whole point of the movie.

If you listen to the commentary by Andrew, Huck and Eugenia (the actors) they state that Andrew is as bad as Adrian. That was the intention of the movie makers.

[–] swinggold 14 years ago

Like jlprzm21 said, they all wanted something out of it. Just as Adrian and Andrew wanted sex, maid service and a cook, Lichi wanted a rich American husband who could guarantee her a green card.

This isn't unlike how alot of mail-order bride situations play out in the end. Both sides want companionship but in a way, take advantage of each other's plight for the end result. Lonely man vs woman seeking a better life.

[–] brux (14666) 7 years ago

The thing is that the relationship between men and women is ... uhm, interesting. There is the sex, women are whether they like it or know it or not, at least partially sex objects, and men are money and security objects. Sex is like a drug, it is transitory, and also like a drug the user become habituated to it ... but marriage is forever. So, two people can never know if they are going to hit it off and for how long, so there is a bargaining going on, and it is mostly on faith, except that if it goes bad and gets to court the woman often gets her security, and the man is left with nothing - or worse if the original deal was that he did not want children and she agrees, but then has children or tricks him into having children. Then the guy has been defrauded.

We cannot escape our natures, so to me it is just better to try to be honest and clear in relationships, and relationships seem when they get close and serious to make it impossible for people to be honest ... honesty makes you vulnerable and able to be taken advantage of. If you an find someone who understands the needs and fears of the other person, then that is a keeper, because whatever happens you can communicate your way through it fairly, or at least there is some hope.

[–] brux (14666) 7 years ago

It is the unpredictability of people, both men and women.

I worked with a guy who was depressed in a major way. He had something like this happen to him. He married a Chinese woman and they had a baby. Then she divorced him, took the kid and he is stuck. Now, you can never know what the real story is between people, but he did not seem like that bad of a guy, not weird. No doubt he was bitter and heartbroken, and he used to work day and night just to keep from having to go home and alone. No way he was going to meet anyone else.

The story of some Asian women is pretty scary, they are not what their image is in the Western media, at least not all the time anyway.