Cliff


I was disappointed at the end of the movie when Cliff hooked up with a random guy and seemed to not care that Butch just died. Even though Butch probably would've done the same thing and that guy didn't mean anything to Cliff it seemed cheap to somewhat spit on Butch and make it seem like their time meant nothing when for the time they spent together he was so fond of Butch and wanted him. It shows Cliff growing up but I can imagine if this was a real setting 5 years down the road Cliff is in Butch's position and will be a hustler.

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maybe it was a rebound. besides, im not saying it was the "right" thing to do by hooking up with the guy, but if someone practically raped me in front of someone for money and then died id do something like that too. i mean, what would you do

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I totally agree with fusegirl.....
Butch hurt him, I think it was cliffs way of trying to shove Butch out of his mind.He loved Butch but didn't want to admit it because of what happened.

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Yeah, I think the point of the ending is to show that Cliff is on his way to becoming just like Butch. He has lost his innocence (symbolized by his throwing away the skateboard). He goes from an earnest, heart-felt person to a gay cliche, with casual cruising and flippant, superficial conversation. And then he kisses his sister after sucking c**k!! Reminds me a little bit of the ending of the movie KIDS, where it is implied that the boy gives the girl AIDS.

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LOL I was thinking the same thing when he kissed Cooke. But she seemed awfully grown up so maybe she knew but didn't care. It's just cum.

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yes i do agreew ith u buddy Cliff behaves as if he has lost all sympathy

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hm, I'll have to rewatch the movie with that thought in mind, but I interpreted it as Cliff accepting himself and moving on. I think that Cliff started grieving for Butch long before he actually died, so by the time it happened Cliff was ready for it.

So I don't at all think the film was implying that Cliff would continue Butch's mistakes. At the beginning of the film, Cliff is uncomfortable with himself, nervous, shy and unrealistic. This attitude leads him down Butch's road, where he sort of hopelessly clings to him though he isn't shown any love, until ultimately these weaknesses of his are horribly taken advantage of (as we witness). So the end of the film with the man in the cafe, Cliff is confident, taking control of the seduction, ready to make himself happy based on his own terms and not somebody else's. So while I don't condone sex with strangers in public places, I saw the act as representing a positive growth in the character of Cliff. Just my opinion.

Look at it this way, though shagging a stranger in a public restroom may seem unhealthy, its potentially not nearly as unhealthy as his entire intimate engulfment with Butch.

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