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The problem with the Oirish movie industry,...


...if you could call it an industry at all,is neatly encapsulated in some quotes from reviews of this movie. Variety says "Chockful of Oirish backtalk and rough humor--much of it unintelligible, due to the muddy soundtrack and strong accents--this plays rather like helmer Paddy Breathnach's earlier pic, "I Go Down" (1997), but without the violence. ... film looks too small and local to make much impression on U.K. tracks "

and the BBC review says "torrent of hilariously profane language, un-PC gags and bags of guttersnipe charm"

That about sums up Irish film, which starts out with a search for what is different and interesting about Ireland that can sell a movie, and then falls prey to a mistaken belief that what is needed is filthy language and bags of sh*t, literally. i don't think I have seen an irish movie yet that doesn't have someone literally p*ssing or sh*tting in the street (or in this case, on the front seat of someone's car). What are these people thinking? And then they go looking for international audiences, and bemoan their lack of success. In fact, Irish movies don't even succeed in Ireland; nobody wants the damned things. Success for Irish filmakers will start with them pulling their heads out of their arses. They should stop trying to raise vulgarity to an art form. P*ss and sh*t lost their shock value a long time ago; nobody is interested. Anybody who wants that kind of movie need only bring a hand-held video camera to the bathroom with them. People want big movies, not small ones; movies that speak to them; p*ss and sh*t don't really do that. The sad fact is that Man About Dog is far from being the worst.

Any Irish filmaker reading this would be well advised to forget about not only p*ss and sh*t, but every other kind of Oirishism also. Nobody is interested. Reflect and/or explain the universal human experience, and forget about making the great Irish film. By all means infuse it with real Irish charm if you can (and only if you are sure that you know what that is), but first make sure it IS real, and not the dirty plastic thing that is so often trotted out in movies that are even worse than this.

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If you had said that about a "Black" or "Indian" film, the post probably wouldn't have stayed up long enough for even One person to read it.

But because it's the irish or OIRISH as you put it with wit. it's okay to allow this person to rant about how cr*p the irish film business is and that they rely on P*ss & S*it jokes...

So, if i was to try and post that all gangster films are full of violence and bl*ck people calling each other Ni*ger - would this post be allowed to stay on the message board? i think not.

Don't get me wrong "Major movie star" I'm not accusing you of being a racist, i'm sure you don't realise that irish people actually find this sort of film funny, i guess you are still stuck in the days of irish people being think & therefore unable to understand the concept of a film containing words, let alone jokes.

Think before you post in future, or post a similar comment about a predominatly black, indian, jewish, muslim film.

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Ouch! But thanks for proving my points!

P.S. If you had actually read my posting, you would have seen that it was Variety magazine that described it as Oirish. You are surely familiar with the concept of "stage Orish"? Well, this movie has helped transfer that notion to the big screen.

P.P.S. As for your comment about my being "unable to understand the concept of a film containing words", part of the problem with the Irish film industry is that it needs to get to grips with the idea that movies are primarily about pictures, not words. If I want words, i read a book or listen to the radio.

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Major Movie Star ,you do realise you are basing your whole judgement of this film, let alone the Irish movie industry, on a 10 second clip of film??? Are you serious? Look at other films, for example, Snatch. What was Brad Pitt doing the first time we see him in the film.....yes taking a dump beside a jeep. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked I thought Snatch was a pretty successful film. Think you need to build a bridge....

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As for "a 10 second clip of film", I saw a different 10 second clip last night on a turgid Irish TV production titled (as I recall) TROUBLE IN PARADISE. The last time I endured 10 seconds of this inexecrable trash was a while ago when I passed over it while I was surfing channels, and guess what? No, no p*ssing or sh*tting on that occasion; the lead actress was being *beep* against a tree! No doubt essential to the plot! But last night what did I see? Yes! Back to form! The police officer (the character with the beardy face) was taking a call on his cellphone while (you've guessed it!) he was p*ssing! No only that, but he turns around to face the camera before he does up his fly! (no peculiar male bits were on display, but I have no doubt at all that were the censor to allow, the director would have). Again, no doubt essential to the plot!

What is the point of all of that juvenile, gratuitous sh*t and p*ss obsessed nonsense? Does the Oirish TV and movie business cater for anyone except pimply teenage males?

As for Brad Pitt taking a dump, I don't know why that might have been necessary to the plot, as I haven't seen SNATCH, but I can't remember the last time i have seen anything like it on screen, with the possible exception of Daniel Craig's fist fight in CASINO ROYALE simply because it took place in the men's room, and it was right.

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I bet your a racist anti-seminist english (Americans love our movies) *beep* with your own head up your arse or are you still under the impression that all the Irish are terrorists well you know what my favourite bit in all the films in the world is the bit in V for Vendetta where the english parliament gets blown up and notice how english isn't spelt with a capital you don't deserve it shove that up your anti-Irish ass

he has big feet like boots

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Ha ha ha ha ha! LOL, exploitation1950-1! Were you sober when you wrote all of that! No matter! Thanks for proving my points again.
By the way, I notice you don't spell Irish with a capital either (and note; capital, not capitol!)

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Major_Movie_Star come back to us when you have made your own film nuff said


As I was walking to St.Paul's
A woman came over and said can I grab your...arm

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Click on major_movie_star and read some of his previous IMDB comments. I think one could deduce from the evidence that he is indeed Irish - although I agree with some of his points (I personaly hated man about dog) I think it's obvious that there are many Irish films that don't go down the avenue of toilet gags and supposed 'Oirish' movie cliches. Take the recent film 'Once' as an exmample...

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And the Wind That Shakes The Barley

As I was walking to St.Paul's
A woman came over and said can I grab your...arm

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I HAVE made my own film! It was infinitely better that MAD. And I'll make more and better. So now what?

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