I´m particulary fond of Jancsó (mainly his 60 and 70s work), the german trilogy of Szabó or Bella Tarr but I´m sure there is much more I´m missing. For one thing I miss the great epics that were made in all communist countries (Mihai Viteazu from Romania, Marketa Lazarova from Chequia or The deluge from Poland), there is an hungarian equal to them? Some recomendations anyone?
Thank you very much for your recomendations, I´m already downloading most of them, the ones with english subtitles and they look terrific. Something about hungarian epic movies?
Thanks again for your suggestions. Can I ask you your opinion about Miklos Jancso, as cinema lovers and hungarians? And why are his films so difficult to find?
great hungarian film: time stands still: is in my view the best. my humble view angi vera masnap [after the day before] and shadow on the snow by attila janisch is very good in a strange lynchian way. recently taxidermy was great as well as most films by istvan szabo, colonel redl, mephisto.. though his films tend to be quite epic. and fateless that was released this year by lajos koltai was shot by pados, gyula same dp as 'kontroll'..
I´ve only seen two films from Szabó so far (mephisto and Sunshine) and, been epic enough I´ve found it more like european coproductions (in fact they are)than something truly hungarian. And for really epic in scale more than Szabo´s epic feeling something like "Egri Csillagok" comes first to my mind.
Itarex top ten films includes Jancsó "The Round Up", I love this one to. The same for "The red and the white", "My way" and "Silence and cry". This Jancsó really deserves more praise!
You are absolutely right! "The red and the white" and "My Way" are at least as good as "The Round Up" and Jancsó is pretty underrated compared to such much less-talented directors like István Szabó.
It's just my opinion, but I don't consider Szabó that great as most of the business and public does. His early films are alright, but - mostly his later ones - lack that kind of personality, that kind of genius and view that Jancsó has. They are decent movies but not such masterpieces as "Round Up" and etc. He got an Oscar. And? He made a movie (which I do not consider a masterpiece either) and the movie got the award (the movie NOT him). That's why he is so overrated. In this case Stallone could be considered a genius scriptwriter or actor because the mediocre "Rocky" (the movie NOT him) won an Oscar. Also Szabó gets worse as he gets older (well... let's say it: his latest film "Rokonok" is truly cr*p...).
I had some other disappointments lately. Péter Bacsó's film "Who are the Lumnitzer sisters?"... How can a man WHO MADE THE WITNESS and YOU BLOODY LIFE write and direct such a HUGE PILE OF CR*P??!!!
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
Eureka! At last one human being the thinks that Jancsó is underrated. I agree about "My way" and "The red and the white" but I also like a lot his work from the 70s: especially "Electra my lover" and "Red Psalm", the Italo-yugoslavian made "Private vices,public virtues" is quite fascinating. I´m really looking forward to see "Hungarian Rhapsody" or something of the 80s even if it´s considered very flawed. I recently saw the first Pepe y Kapa film and even if I didn´t understand anything -hungarian without subtitles- it showed that the guy still have a lot of energy and humor.
I hope hungarian compatriotes realize the importance of this genious and start releasing proper dvds of his work.
And I don´t consider Szabó that great either...and certainly not at Jancsó´s size.
I´m not familiar with Bacsó yet but I´ve "A tanu" and I´ll see it anyday soon.
i checked out the fourth movie you recommended there --> Zimmer Feri. But the imdb site didn't contain a plot summary page and the comments were mostly praises. Can you say something about the movie? thanks!
Jancsó is a far better filmmaker than the overrated Szabó.
Zimmer Feri?? Well, director Péter Timár is a great talent with a very unique vision of filmmaking. His first films are great comedies. "Egészséges erotika" ("Soft Eroticism") and "Csapd le csacsi!" ("Slap-Jack") are great comedies made by a real colourful filmmaker. Then - after a 5 year hiatus - he made his big hit, the highly overrated "Csinibaba" (which isn't a bad movie either). Then after his huge popularity-rise he began to make worse and worse and worse films. Each of his films are worse than the last one. His last comedy "Le a fejjel!" ("Off with his head") is one of the worst movies in the history of filmmaking, a film must be avoided by anyone who likes films. I didn't saw his latest film, in which he tried to make a serious, non-comedic one, "A herceg haladéka", although critics said that it's quite enjoyable.
"Zimmer Feri" is on the middle-ground between his best and worst. Although many people (most critics) says that it is very bad, I think it's watchable. Not a great movie, but you can laugh on it for the first time (then you forget it). BTW apart from "Egészséges erotika" this film is the best example for Timár's unique and strange editing / filmmaking style. If you watch it you will know what I'm talking about. The plot concerns around a guy who tries to make money by making his home a holiday apartment for German tourists. It would work if he wouldn't be that mean and try to make everything as cheap as possible... but there are many sub-plots including a black waitress girl and a stolen bag of money among others.
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
Nagyon szivesen? Are you Hungarian or you just know this expression? Because Im Hungarian. Ive seen the movie of the day is Kontroll today and I wanted to see what other people think about it.
I'm Hungarian. I live in Budapest. I think there are many discussions about this movie on it's IMDB boards.
I think this board should be continued on discussing the greatest Hungarian films and filmmakers.
BTW I've just seen the interview with the director and cast of the remake of "Egy bolond százat csinál" on TV and I'm quite upset again seeing the awful state of current Hungarian filmmaking . I think we should discuss the WORST Hungarian films and filmmakers too. My choice for the worst director is undoubtably Bence Gyöngyössy. He can't even do anything but remakes... plus totally talentless and a total idiot.
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
Jee, Zimmer Feri is one of the worst Hungarian movies I've ever seen. It's a cheap, idiotic, pointless comedy with disgusting jokes and stupid ideas. I don't think this movie is the best one to watch if you want to have some idea about Hungarian film. It has nothing to do with the greatnes of some older HUngarian movies. So if you wanna see good HUngarian films, there are amazing ones like Szerelem (Love), some of the Jancsó-movies, Bacsó: A Tanú (The Witness), or Fábry Zoltán's Körhinta (Merry-go-round) or Húsz óra (Twenty Hours).
I watched an epic while I lived in Hungary called El Dorado which was actually well done IMHO. It had an actor named Karoly Eperjes, who I grew rather fond of. He is definitely versatile, because he also played in my favorite modern-day Hungarian comedy Csapd Le Csacsi.
Zimmer Feri was a steaming pile of dukey - I would not recommend it even if it was in the dollar bin at Circuit City.
Yeah, I agree! Eperjes is one of the greatest Hungarian actors today. He is quite talented and can do both drama and comedy in a very skilfull level.
There's a lot of criticism of him because of his strong right-wing political activity on the side of the largest opposition party of Hungary. But people don't understand that he is a great actor apart from this.
The bad thing is that while in the '80s and early '90s he was in so much good films, today he is in very bad movies and only he makes them some better. Péter Timár's mediocre comedy "6:3" was only good because of his excellent comedy skills. The same goes for István Szabó's terrible "Rokonok" and the really boooooring "Mansfeld" which is only watchable because of his and Maya Morgenstein's fine performances.
"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."
Eperjes? A good actor? I saw "Hídember" and HIS FACE WASN'T MOVING AT ALL. Every time I see him, he has the same facial expression. O_o How can someone with such a rigid face be a good actor? (BTW, "Hídember" is bloody boring, so I guess it qualifies as one of the worst Hungarian movies.)
eperjes is not half as good as he used to be. (im saying that independently of his questionable political views). although, he showed his old qualities in mansfeld. he and ervin nagy carry that film (by the way, it was far better then i thought it would be.) for me, maya morgenstein was annoying. don't watch "children of glory" ("szabadság, szerelem"), if you are not particularly interested in hungarian epic films (after 1989, due to the lack of founding, hungarian epic movies really died out. there were some wannabe epics ("honfoglalás") and some really scr*wed-up one's ("hídember")though.) the movie is bad (soso script, bad score, bad actress/actor in the leading roles), but it shows, that saying "we didn't have the money" is not an excuse anymore. (actually a lot of films do have the money ("hídember", "mansfeld"), but they spend it in a really stupid way, so the film doesn't "look" expensive. every cent is visible on children of glory) i agree with you about "rokonok" though. it was szabo's double meltdown (his past as an agent was found out).
I love Szindbád with Latinovits Zoltán, though one may have to know the short stories of Krúdy Gyula before seeing it...:)) Hungarian cartoons like Macskafogó, Hófehér are also good..
I have to admit I don't know the films that were mentioned here, I am quite young..Recently there are some enjoyable comedies like Valami Amerika, Csak szex és más semmi, for me the art films are too sophisticated, though I know they get praise in other countries..
I really miss films being made about Hungarians in Gulag or Recsk, well that is a film to be made... In fact I haven't seen a film which touched on the subject of living in communism where everybody was scrutinized by the others, with the exception of East-West (Est-Ouest)...it can be I am not well-informed..
You gotta love Macskafogó. "Joghurtot... Szalonnával. Sok szalonnával." Lol. I like Koltai's films, too. He's, like, the Hungarian Chaplin or something. But I think we're better in cartoons; in fact, Hungarian animation is (or was) well-renown world-wide. Which reminds me, Macskafogó 2 is comin' out in December.:)
Sadly, I'm not much for epic Hungarian movies. Artistic, creative and whatever they are, they are just too depressing for my taste. So I definitely recommend Csak szex és más semmi (incidentally, the male lead actor is the same as in Kontroll). It's light-hearted, it's witty, and perfectly entertaining. And, unlike some Hollywood chick-flicks, it's enjoyable even when watching the 2nd/3rd/nth time.
Hello everyone, I´m the original poster and I´m glad this board make it so far, especially thanks to Itarex. I´ve been visiting sometimes but I didn´t post because I´m a foreigner and I´m not that much in actual hungarian cinema, I´ve more interest in pre89 east europe and soviet films.
I want to tell you a funny thing that happened last month during a brief visit to Budapest. As you maybe know from my early posts I rate Miklos Jancso very high in my list, he´s definetly in my top 10 directors. I was there -Budapest- 2 years ago in some video store they told me Jancso work was being remastered for an eventual release on dvd. So, hoping that some films had hit the street already I walked into this store and asked for Miklos Jancso films and the guy looked at me like: what?. Well, I´m sure I didn´t pronunciated that well but I try again and the guy says: Michael Jackson? Errrr...Then I rememeber, yes the surname first but nothing ringed the bell. Fortunately, there was another guy with some enlightment who show me "The Round Up" in dvd, that I´ve already so...
My point is, fellow hungarians, dear magyars, that i think -in general- you don´t like this guy very much. I can understand to a certain degree due to historical reasons but I really think Jancso it´s a national treasure for you. Look how the polish worship Wajda. Jancsó have an equally impressive body of work and 50 years in the business, but...as it was put to him by Kappa and Pepe in "Wake up, mate, don´t you sleep?": Uncle Miki, nobody will see this film ever, the same as your other films!
So, dear friends to stop this long as hell post I make a call to every Jancso film owner in vhs, cd, betta, dvd, with subtitles, without, with russian voiceovers... I don´t care! I´ve a fairly big amount of his films (below) but I´m tired of waiting to proper releases so if you´re interested, I´m interested. Contact me in [email protected].
-The bells have gone to Rome -My way home -The round up -The red and the white -Silence and cry -La pacifista -Red Psalm -Private vices, public virtues -Electra, my lover -Lord´s lantern in Budapest -Last supper at the arabian gray horse -Wake up mate don´t you sleep -Anyád! A szúnyogok
Hi perrote, although you wrote your latest post here like 4 years ago, it wasn't until now that I found it. I just want to say - as a Hungarian - that it is very moving how you think about Hungarian movie making and just want to thank you for speaking so nicely about Jancsó -- (unfortunately, I don't really know his work, but I have a long must-see list, including a great many of his films as well). He is really like Wajda is for the POlish, and unfortunately, my generation hardly knows his art. So thank you so much for being so open-minded, and I hope you have been able to find all the Jancsó films that you wanted to see.
I recommend you this film: Meteo http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097875/ It's spiritual predecessor of Kontroll. A vision about post-communist future from 1990. While the Kontroll was filmed in Budapest Metro system, the darkest scenes of the Meteo was filmed in Budapest nuclear shelter system.
i don't know if anyone is up here after this many years, but we have a new gem in cinemas these months: isteni muszak (godly shift) it is a really great black comedy with unique and great atmosphere and twisted sense of humor! go and catch it in cinemas or festivals you won't regret it!