How does dialogue so horrendously awful get approved?

Devil's Rejects. It was so popular and made a lot of people money so they went with that and signed Rob Zombie. He's better with his own material than someone else's I'll give him that. It's his wheel house, it's all he knows. He can't stretch his creativity in any other way. And after Resurrection's poor outing and the popularity of remakes at the time it was a cash cow. Notice not much dialogue or at least the worst of it, was released in advertisements. They made you spend your money to find out the hard way. By then it was too late.

And at this point, Akkad and co. were doing anything to retain relevance. That's why this movie was made the way it was and rightly hated for it. Everything a Halloween movie is not.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

Oh, God yes. There were certain things I thought Zombie did very well in the film and the story telling, but the dialogue? These people were trash. It was so over the top.

The problem with Rob Zombie as a filmmaker is that he dos some things extremely well in a very original and distinctive way. However, there are certain things he doesn't do so well, and its consistent and he hasn't gotten better.

If he had a writing partner, someone who was a real wordsmith, who could go in an de-Zombie-fy the dialogue sometimes, the finished products would be much better off.

And he always goes just a little too far and it shatters the suspension of disbelief. For his own material, like House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, it works because that's the schtick, but for Halloween, it breaks the magic.

The beginning of the film is damn near flawless accept for two instances. The bit of dialouge posted above, which was basically the opening of the film...I suppose the idea was to set the tone of the chaos Michael lives in, just to really plunge you into it...but as you can see, it's just too terribly and unrealistically written. But it could have been fixed.

The other instance where Zombie gets too Zombie is the "news" footage of the bodies being brought out of the house...dead bodies on gurneys, covered in blood, with no sheet covering them, no body bags, just strapped to stretchers and wheeled out into the street in front of the news cameras? It's inane and stupid and after the shocking violence of the previous scene, it really breaks the spell with it's ultraviolence.

Also, one could argue, that a Michael Myers who has evil inside him but comes from an otherwise normal, loving, compassionate household instead of the sh*tshow Zombie has him living in, would be far more interesting and scary.

I think he's a great director who knows a lot about setting a tone and mood and knows a lot about filming violence and gore well. He just isn't a very good writer on his own.

You are right. That is the dialog written by a child. lol This movie is a terrible remake. It lost the spirit that is Michael Myers...and good writers.

In a world ruled by the dead, we are forced to finally start living.

The problem is that Rob Zombie's Michael Myers seems less evil than John Carpenter's. Carpenter's Michael personified evil. He was just a little boy that killed his sister for no reason, and then evolved into a something totally devoid of humanity, a living demon. Zombie's Michael was almost a tragic figure. You kind of root for him to kill the dad because he was such a POS. There's no mystery to why he was the way he was. And then he seemed to try to reach out to his sister, by showing her the picture. Would he have tried to kill her if she had understood and not rejected him? Maybe. That is not evil personified.

All of that said, I don't totally hate this film. The problem is that he was supposed to be Michael Myers. If this was a stand alone film, it could have been an interesting commentary on the nature vs. nuture debate of personality development. Instead, it was just a bad remake.



Hollywood is a place where they'll pay you $50,000 for a kiss and 50 cents for your soul.

Well. A typical Zombie movie. A total hack writer, who can't write dialog for *beep* Kinda like Walking dead's Robert Kirkman. Also a total loser in that department.

The dialogue definitely wasn't good. Probably one of the biggest downfalls of the film, along with the acting. Which I assume the acting and the poorly delivered dialogue sort of go hand & hand.

Rob zombie does a good job with visuals. I don't have much else nice to say about his film work.