That's quite the F|_|cked up morality he's got. Beating on little kids, especially if they're your own, is way worse than hitting (esp just slapping) a grown woman.
Just sayin that line was stupid.
Some kids DO need physical discipline. It would be wrong if Robert was hitting someone else's child. I feel that a man is in a no-win situation if he gets into physical fight with a woman. He's called a "coward" if he should knock her down; he's called a "wimp" if he doesn't fight back.
"There will be blood. Oh, yes, there WILL be blood."-Jigsaw; "Saw II"
Only as the utmost last resort when all else has failed should you ever hit your child, and even then only strictly a certain kind of physical abuse (ie, spanking on the behind maybe but never use your fists). I know Riley is often a bad kid, but Granddad seems to beat him with his belt for any little thing he does wrong, and beating with a belt is particularly brutal and disgusting, doubly so actually when you consider how that's how slaves were treated by their masters. If I saw a man doing that to a kid on the street, I'd try to restrain him because that kind of thing is just plain wrong no matter how bad the kid is. Kids are kids, they are still growing and still learning right from wrong, and they need to learn this in an environment as free from terror as possible.
As for hitting women, they're grownups, not children. There's women who are strong enough, unlike little kids, to do some real damage to you. Actually they don't need to be that strong even, they can use all kinds of various weapons that can make up for their weaker physical stregth. The rule for hitting women is essentially the same as for men: if she poses a physical threat to you, then you use what force you need to restrain her. If some men don't understand this, they need to get over their pathetic, chivalric, pu$$y grovelling. And if women don't understand this they need to get over their own sense of entitled narcissism, thinking they should be exempt from violence no matter how violent they are. That's BS, and some women need to be taught that just like some men do.
The thing is, for better or worse, Granddad beating the Riley and Huey is a reflection of his generation and the black family structure, particularly as his age group would have handled things. It's definitely not an atypical experience to get a beating for even a mild indiscretion. I think you could ask nearly any black person who was born in the early 80's/late 70s or earlier and quite a few will have similar stories to tell about getting beat with the belt.
Personally, I attribute it to a hold over from slavery and whippings. The further we get away from that time period, each future generation is less likely to beat their kids like that. The family structure will get stronger and we will find better ways to discipline and raise healthy families.
As for beating women, nah, that's not cool. But I will say, if a woman hits and gets violent then she best expect that it will be returned. Don't play if you don't like the game. Adults should not be hitting each other. There are better ways to deal with disagreements.
A few swats on a kid's legs or butt should suffice. The only way I would REALLY hit a woman is if she comes at me with a weapon. I'm also not in favor of cursing out a child, especially one under 10. I've seen that happen and it just makes me so uncomfortable.
"There will be blood. Oh, yes, there WILL be blood."-Jigsaw; "Saw II"
I'm going to guess you and the people saying it's better to hit a woman over a child are white. I personally would never lay a hand on my nephews and niece even though I am a disciplinary figure in their lives. I won't hit my kids when I have some of my own either. Nor would I ever hit a woman (unless either had a weapon and was trying to kill me).
But as a Puerto Rican, I know what it's like to get my ass beat. I came out alright despite all that, and my parents got the same treatment. Sure, sometimes women are battered as well in our culture, but that's generally frowned upon. But it was never really frowned up to beat your kids (spare the rod spoil the child taken to literally by an island population that is 97% catholic). Even now on the island, kids get their asses beat all the time, though more and more are not resorting to violence as punishment.
Point is saying someone has screwed morals because they'd hit a child but not a woman is pretty narrow minded. Plenty of minorities (blacks and hispanics) have these beliefs due to culture, just like many Americans (of all colors, but many white people I hear these arguments from) believe it's alright to hit a female.
Guess what? Science doesn't back up that claim that we are even on a physical level so if she hits a man, a man should hit her back. We are more athletic than females in a general basis (there are elite female athletes that would kick my butt, but that is an exception, not the norm). The reason men don't compete with women in professional athletics is because we are so much stronger due to the amounts of testosterone our bodies produce. You can see a woman smacking and kicking and actually inflicting some pain on a man (take the Jay Z elevator incidence for example). But if he kicked her or punched her, she'd be down for the count. Meanwhile, he was just shrugging her off and trying to push her away. It's not even, it's not a fair fight; hitting a women is abuse. Same with children. Same with the elderlies. If you are targeting someone that is naturally weaker, you are abusive.
I'm not saying it's better to hit anybody; I'm saying it's not ok to abuse anyone, men included, unless you really really need to. But I think that the people you would ever need to hit the least, or hopefully never, are little kids, that's all. I was only posing the question because it seemes like, at least in one episode, this show says it's ok to hit little kids, but not ok to hit grown women.
But again, I don't think it's right to hit anyone except in strict circumstances (ie, men should even only hit other men when they need to protect themselves from violence or protect loved ones or the innoncent from violence if they can). I have a fully egalitarian viewpoint on this.
I'm sorry to hear that you were beat as a child, and that this still continues on your island. Hopefully this will increasingly become a thing of the past, which I think it is fortunately (but maybe not fast enough). It's absurd to "generally frown upon" not beating women, yet think it ok to beat children. Children are more vulnerable and innoncent than grown women, and the fact that they are still developing both physically and mentally makes it even more important not to violently abuse them. But again, not saying that it's "better" to hit women, or men for that matter, because it's not cool to hit anyone unless you absolutely need to. And you absolutely need to hit children the least. Get it?
Women should only hit men only if they absolutely need to too. This should be just as unacceptable as hitting women. Even if it doesn't cause serious damage, a woman slapping you repeatedly or using her fists on you is still insulting, degrading, and disrespectful to you and you shouldn't put up with it. And yes, sometimes women don't need a weapon to cause serious damage to you.
I don't think 'the show says it's ok to hit little kids.' I think the show is satire and makes fun of the very culture the author hails from. Just because it shows it, doesn't mean the it condones it. And I am saying that just like in a lot of other situations that may seem contradictory or irrational, in this case Grandad's belief system is firmly rooted in that belief that you don't spare the rod, because you'll spoil the child. Meanwhile, the same culture (and religious beliefs) believe in chivalry and defending women.
It's not preaching that this should be done, as much as it's showing it is done this way. That's pretty much what then entire show is about. And like I said, I don't believe violence should be used in any case. But the way the thread's direction went, people are defending hitting a women over a child when neither should happen. Heck, I don't think many problems can be solved with violence no matter the sex, gender, or age of the parties involved. But regardless, I don't see it as the guy having terrible morality. I just see it for what it is...his culture and upbringing have taught him a different way of life. Hopefully, the cycle breaks as assimilation allows the younger generation to move on from these customs, but I wouldn't judge him, because I've seen how culture affects actions in people I myself am related to.