Holocaust, Genocide???


I have to bring up the fact that these two terms always find their way into the discourse about Tibet, when in fact, neither are accurate terms at all.

Let me explain.

The term holocaust mainly refers to the extermination of European Jews by Nazi Germany, but in a more broad sense means an intentional extermination of a people, which is basically another word for genocide, just with more historical and emotional connotations. So we can really just deal with the term genocide.

The key to the term is that the slaughter is intentional, and focused on a certain group of people, with the intention of eradication them, period. This is the U.N.'s terminology, the same U.N. which gave us the declaration of universal human rights, which is almost always invoked by Free Tibet supporters.

Now let me explain why Tibet endured neither a holocaust, nor a genocide.

For the deaths that occurred in Tibet to be considered a genocide the Chinese government would have had to have had a goal of destroying Tibetans, as a people. They did not have this goal, never have.

If we are saying that the deaths that occurred during the Great Leap forward and the Cultural Revolution were a genocide, then one has to completely ignore the deaths of all the Chinese that took place during that time too, for the same reasons. Otherwise the Chinese would have committed genocide against themselves.

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Doesn't make sense does it? The same policies were inflicted on the entire Chinese state, not just Tibet.

Ok, so if the Great Leap Forward and the CR weren't genocide, then what about the succeeding years?

The protests of the late 80's can't be considered a genocide, because they were isolated incidents, not political policy with the intent of eradication of Tibetans either. They were in response to civil unrest, and an attempt by an authoritarian regime to maintain order, not slaughter. Was it heavy handed? Yes. Was it shocking and brutal and disgusting? Pretty much. But it wasn't genocide. Not even close.

You may say it's just semantics, and it is, but those words carry great significance, and to misconstrue them does disservice to the people who actually are undergoing, and have been victims of genocide.

The Dalai Lama doesn't even use those terms, and has only hesitantly used the term "cultural genocide" to describe what he feels has happened in his former home.

I don't deny horrible things happened there, and continue to happen, but I do reject the use of those two terms, and if that makes me a "holocaust denier" then forgive me for disagreeing a little.

If we really want to see a free Tibet, then we'd see much better response by everyone involved if we shouted "Free China" and not just "Free Tibet". To do otherwise is to put the suffering of Tibetans on a pedestal over those of the Chinese.

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"The Chinese have done this to the Tibetan Buddhists"

How so. There has never been, nor is there currently any policy of killing Tibetan Buddhists specifically because they are Tibetan Buddhists. The factors that led China to raze not only Tibet but also its own culture during the CR are myriad, and cannot simply be stated in terms of "the Chinese wanted to eliminate Tibetans".

"Genocide is intentionally eliminating a group of people. The Chinese have done this to the Tibetan Buddhists. It's like saying that the early settlers in America or Australia never had original intentions to try and eliminate the indigenous of each nation, but it sure ended that way. "

This makes no sense. you admit that genocide is the intentional elimination of a group of people, and yet you say that regardless of intention it is still genocide.

And yes, it does indeed put Tibetans on a higher pedestal than Chinese when Free Tibet people talk about human rights abuses. If human rights are your main concern, than independance is a non sequitor, it does not have any bearing. If human rights are the main concern then it is human rights for all, be it Tibetan, Uighur, Han, etc and so on. Focusing on one group of people in one country to the exclusion of others IS giving them a higher value.

"Would chanting "Free South Vietnam" during the control of America and Diem put the Sth Vietnamese on a higher pedestal than those in the North?"

Yes, it would. The reason the U.S. backed the Diem govt was because they wanted to contain the spread of Communism in the East. So if you shout "Free South Vietnam" and not "Free Vietnam" you are saying that you do not care what happens to North Vietnam, only that you have somehow come to the conclusion that one side of a civil war is better than another.

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