I'm seeing a lot of dissatisfaction with the two DK sequels that came after this movie, So how would any of you have continued this series after Batman Begins? What villains or characters would you have added, How would you continue the story?
Please tell.
I would have done exactly what Nolan did and made a ton of money doing it.
shareThis trilogy is three of my favourite films of all time, so I wouldn't change too much. My only real issues are mainly with the second half of Rises.
People who ask for more don't understand the concept of sequel stagnation. The more stories you tell within the same universe, the harder it is to make each new one good (part of why Nolan chose to end things with 3 films). The Joker would've been far less impactful if there had been several other movies with a parade of less deadly villains building up to him. Yes I know Marvel is doing that with Thanos, but we'll see where that leads in a few years.
Back OT, the main change I would make is to pad the Gotham Knight compilation out into an entire series of 13-20 episodes with more uniform animation spanning the highly eventful year between the two films. That way, we can have all the other villains and other characters people claim they wanted to see who aren't the Joker (for instance just before TDK came out, I read a rather well-written fanfic featuring an extremely dark Nolanverse Poison Ivy, and I myself wrote a Mad Hatter story) without diluting the films. TDK would start in the exact same place and Batman could have had more credible field experience under his utility belt, thus making the Joker's victories even more terrifying.
Maybe add the Penguin in one of the sequels. I liked the two sequels, but I kind of wish they included villains such as the Penguin, Riddler, Mad Hatter (if Tom Petty acted more aside from mostly King of the Hill, he could've played the part), or Poison Ivy to name a few.
"Last week?!? The school burnt down six years ago"-Mr. Strickland (Back To The Future Part II)
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A second film would be pretty similar to what was made but probably with Harvey Dent being a little darker from the beginning, there not be the Harvey/Rachel romance (or develop it much better) and no Batman taking the blame. A third film I'm less sure about but probably further develop the theme of escalation with more (and more outlandish) villains like Catwoman and Riddler, regardless don't have Gotham City so crime-free that Batman has long been retired.
shareI wish the trilogy had a better trajectory thought out, most plot points at the end of TDK to be resolved in TDRK were just rushed and wasted like Batman taking the blame.
Two-Face was like a third film villain who became a secondary villain for the second film.
Batman retiring so early just for a girl who no longer loved him in return just ruined the characters because Batman doesn't come off as somebody who quits. I wish he had a different love interest for the second film, his love for Rachel last since childhood, his grieving over her death lasted eight years.
Batman taking the blame.
Batman retiring so early just for a girl
I mean in TDKR they didn't touch upon it that since the film was over-plotted.
A lot of the plot points were frustrating. Making Bruce still think Rachel wanted him and turning out she wanted Dent made her come off as cold and unsympathetic, some people were happy to see her die and wanted Bruce to fall out of love with her. I felt please Gotham found out the truth about Dent and happy Batman was seen as a hero again.
Gotham may longer needed Batman But Bruce would.
I mean in TDKR they didn't touch upon it that since the film was over-plotted
Gotham may longer needed Batman But Bruce would.
I mean it was only referenced one or twice, wish they did more of it.
Batman taking the blame for Dent came about because Nolan wasn't if he wanted to do three and did it to end the story.
I liked if crime in Gotham gotten worse not better, have Batman's intention to bring peace to Gotham get twisted.
Batman taking the blame.
How was that wasted? Batman taking the blame was the reason Gotham was able to improve as much as it did in TDKR
But it meant that he was less able to operate effectively as a crimefighter
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Rachel being resurrected as Red Hood.
shareI really liked TDK, only minor changes imo. Keep Katie Holmes, leave Scarecrow out of it, no Mr.Lou subplot, less time with the cave out of comission, and a heck of a lot more detective work and brutal vigilante work rounding up the scum. I'd of liked to see him turning cynical from the daily grind of beating dead beats and dropping them in the gutter in front of GCPD. I'd also of preferred Gordon to take on more of a traditional cop role, one where his strength in character and unwillingness to compromise acted as a moral compass for a troubled Bruce. As is he was too much of a martyr, one who's motives could almost be confused with helplessness.
TDKR, I'd change almost everything. Most importantly, Bane would be Bane...