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hmm so the story of the zodiac killer..was he never caught? SPOILER??


im reading up on the zodiac killer, he was never caught right?

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Right! Only a sketch can picture how Zodiac maybe looked like... Hey mate, stay out of this crap film named The Zodiac. It sucks as rotting s**t!

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really??

how bad is it? would you say one of the worst movies you have ever seen?

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No, not the worst, but there's lot of scenes of annoyance and the mvoie runs toward mediocricy... i've already comment it.

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the movie is MUCH cooler if you live in the town where it toook place. (Vallejo, which is pronouced vuh-lay-o to the locals. anyone who doesn't live there calls it vuh-lay-ho and its really annoying afterawhile..ok..now im ramblimg...)

and the street in vallejo where the first murder took place is really called lake herman road. not lake hennasey or w/e they called it.

i saw them film parts and it was really cool to see the finished piece.

(this isn't really directed towards anyone..)

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aw whats up dude, youre in Valejo too!? (shotgun wedding)

word man... I thought they captured the vallejo look pretty well between using the eucayptus trees and mexican-style archways in the architecture...

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nothing to do with the movie, sorry. xD it's too disturbing for me to really research (haven't seen the movies or anything).

instead, this is about the name of your city! if, as i suspect it is, the name of your city is hispanic in origin (like many city/street names in california), then the way it's supposed to be pronounced is vah-YE'-ho. in spanish, two "L"s together sound like a "Y" ("llave" pronounced YA-ve means "key," "lluvia" pronounced YU-viah means "rain," "valle" pronounced VA-ye means "valley," etc.

just thought it would be an interesting bit of info! ^_^ not that it really matters, since the way the names like these were supposed to be pronounced have long since been abandoned. you don't hear anyone pronounce los angeles properly these days. the "O" in 'los' should sound more like the "O" in 'coral,' the "A" and in 'angeles' should sound more like the "A" in 'all,' and the "G" should sound almost like an "H."

and thus ends my random lesson! i know no one asked for it, sorry. i just had the urge. :D

~iceymoon

p.s. okay, one more random fact! the "J" in spanish sounds nothing like the way we pronounce it in english. it's more comparible to the letter "H," however that's not very accurate either (it's a bit stronger than that). the only thing i could compare it to is the sound one might make if trying to imitate the hiss of a cat. this is also the way the "G" in 'los angeles' is pronounced.

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i'm glad you that you know all those...er..great? things.

i'm from vallejo. US VALLEJOAN'S say vuh-lay-oh. general mariano vallejo [where it's named after] isn't pronanuced vuh-lay-oh, but we still pronaunce it that way. we're all quite aware of this fact, considering WE LIVE THEIR.

thanks anyway.

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the trivia section of Zodiac (2007) states:

Actors in the film pronounce "Vallejo," the name of the town, the way outsiders tend to -- they assume it's "Vuh - lay - ho." Locals, however, which would definitely include police and even San Francisco reporters, pronounce it "Vuh - lay - o."

so you can always use that fact to back-up your point next time someone challenges your knowledge. i'm also from a town that most of the world pronounces differently than locals, so i know how it is.

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I'm calling b.s. I live right next to Vallejo, and I used to pronounce it "va ley ho" like everyone else in the state (people outside of California sometimes call it "valley jo" The people who pronounce it "Va ley o" probably say words like ain't and yall as well.

But ever since I started studying California history, I can't help but pronounce it correctly; "Vai ye ho"


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Nope, he was never caught. He's still out there.

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I was about to say this: Ummm sorry but you are all wrong. The Zodiac Killer was caught. It was pretty funny too. He wasn't caught for being the Zodiac Killer. He was arrested for something stupid.
Then I realized the year differences. The original Zodiac Killer was before my time. I never knew anything about that. Plus I grew up in Brooklyn, so when I saw Zodiac Killer I thought of our Zodiac Killer who is really a copycat who would have never been caught like the first Zodiac if not for complete stupidity. My guess is the first Zodiac died and that is why the killings stopped. Why stop killing if you are getting away with it, right.

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To annoy people.

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he's probably dead by now

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kcdude, the zodiac was NEVER caught. his murders are still unsolved to this day.

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He's thinking of Heriberto Seda, the New York Zodiac, who was in fact arrested and will be ineligible for parole until 2082. Seda was not the San Francisco Zodiac.

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yeah he was caught and he DIED!!!!! go to zodiackiller.com or just research it a little bit. it'll tell ya he died.

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He's thinking of Heriberto Seda, the New York Zodiac, who was in fact arrested and will be ineligible for parole until 2082. Seda was not the San Francisco Zodiac.

Yeah, Forensic Files(I think it was them) did an episode on them.

Why stop killing if you are getting away with it, right.

You stop 'cause you get bored, you get bored you get sloppy and could possibly leave DNA behind. Plus with technology it's easier to track you. That's how they found BTK. He'd use a typewriter. copy what he wrote and send it using water to moisten the envelope. But some computer tracked where he was copying the letters and he got caught.

I never had the friends like I did when I was 12. Jesus, does anyone?

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i watched something recently on the zodiac killer (the original, not the NY one)
and according to that there was a man in custody who was believed to be the killer, but they didn't have enough evidence to be able to say it was him. at the time they didn't have the same criminal-catching technology we have today. he died though, i don't think it was much later than when he was taken in for interegation, but i don't remember when exactly or from what cause. many people seem to believe it was him, but the case is still open and we may never know for sure.

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actually, I read a little more into it. The guy your talking about was later freed as they didn't have enough evidence, he had a heart attack, and they found out later it was impossible for him to have been the killer. So basically they harrassed and probably cause the early death of an innocent man. The real Zodiac was probably in his 30s when he started killing, so he'd be in his 70s now, so if he's still alive, he's probably in an old folks home, or dead. In a few decades, he will be dead for sure.

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The California Zodiac was clearly ID'd in a book by the well-known author of the original THE ZODIAC, a bestseller, in a followup book he did 20 years later.

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so...was he caught or never captured?

you're like the cut on my finger, painful and exquisite.

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Thanks for pointing that out, IknowTylerDurden. Some people actually believe that Graysmith books are 100% accurate and true. His books are exagerration and jumps to conclusion to things he "thinks" is right.

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he was never caught...and there is no way the police would have figured that one out without out him flay out saying...hey i killed people, and they still wouldnt have believed him....that is one lucky man....he killed a lot of people and got away with it...im not praising him, but it was pretty smart of him to stop while he was ahead and quit killing people

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Zodiac was never caught or identified. There also isn't really any good reason to believe that he might be dead.

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Except for the fact that he'd be really old by now. He's probably just died of old age by now.

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Quote: "i'm from vallejo. US VALLEJOAN'S say vuh-lay-oh. general mariano vallejo [where it's named after] isn't pronanuced vuh-lay-oh, but we still pronaunce it that way. we're all quite aware of this fact, considering WE LIVE THEIR."

Help me clarify this. True Vallejo locals use incorrect spanish pronunciation and pronounce the name of the town as vuh-lay-oh. And it annoys you when non-locals say the name of the town using proper pronunciation vuh-lay-ho. Does anyone see anything wrong with this? It annoys you that people say it correctly and you think they should say it incorrectly like the locals do?

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